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05-03-2008, 09:20 AM
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Game 5: What do the Rangers need to do to win?

Figured this could be a jump start for some pre-game 5 discussion because we have another full day to wait until the boys hit the ice again.

5 things that I think the Rangers need to get the "W"
1. Henrik needs to be on his "A" game. The Penguins are going to be coming hard early trying to finish us off. Hank's gotta respond. That being said, we need to be able to match their intensity. Losing Game 5 would be a major confidence blow to the Penguins, they do not want to come back to NY. We gotta steal this one. 3-2, 2-1 type of game. If we get into a "track meet" we are done. First goal is huge too.

2. We need big performances from somebody other than Jagr. JJ is going to be ready for tomorrow afternoon, but we are going to need another good game from Drury and Shanahan. Scottie Gomez looked uncomfortable with Dawes and Callahan in Game 4, but we need him badly in Game 5.

3. We have to find a way to slow down the Penguins fore check. They were able to almost dominate us, despite not scoring, in the first period because of their fore check. We can't play the game in our zone. We also have to stick to our defensive plan from Game 4. We were physical with Crosby and Malkin which might not intimidate them, but it will certainly help limit their scoring chances. It is definitely a better option than letting them skate through everyone like they did in games 1-3.

4. Special teams. Its the most annoying cliche in the playoffs, but special teams are so big in the playoffs. We need to get a power play goal or two, and we have to keep up our efforts from Game 4 to stay out of the box. Our PK did a good job of not letting Pittsburgh set up, and we are going to need a similar effort.

5. The unsung hero. We need goals from somebody outside of the Jagr trio. Somebody like Petr Prucha, Ryan Callahan, Nigel Dawes needs to pot one.

Winning Game 5 is not impossible. We lost Game 1 by a goal, but could have been in overtime if Jags doesn't strike iron. We lost Game 2 by a goal as well, but could have been tied if not for a quick whistle. Those are the breaks, and we cannot change that. Just have to remember that its not like we have gotten blown out in either game.


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Hit them and hard. They don t like that. It will work again.

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we've did a good job of keeping "the big 3" quiet in game 4, and if we get the powerplay going this is gonna be a long series

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Hit them and hard. They don t like that. It will work again.
Was suprised the orignal poster never said that. Lets face it except for Laraque the rest of the Pens are not exactly tough. Throw a few hits it will boost the Rangers momentum.

One very good point the orignal poster made was stopping the Pens forcheck. I think if we do that we can easily win the game.

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pound them into the boards and put a good forecheck on them....dont hold anything back.

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Limit the Pens to 2-3 power plays.

Henrik has to play as well as he did in game 4.

Clog up the neutral zone and do not let the Pens attack our blueline with speed.

At LEAST one PP goal.

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special teams...special teams...special teams...

hank needs to have at least an A- game


play physical...

secondary scoring would be nice...but i could careless if jagr scores all our goals

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Well, Hank obviously has to play like he did the other night. He hasn't had 2 really good games back-to-back. He's gonna have to step it up for the rest of the series.

Stop the damn turnovers. I don't know if it was The Garden ice or what, but there were too many turnovers with some leading to breakaways. Give them those chances again, eventually one of them will go in.

Keep the pressure on Cindy and Malkin. They were obviously frustrated in game 4 and it showed by their "tough guy" act and "coward" act, respectively. I don't know if they can get to their heads a second time, but they gotta try.

No dumb penalties. They only took 4 penalties the last game and the Pens couldn't capitalize. It's gonna be a mad-house on Sunday and the Rangers have to keep their composure.

Play Jason Strudwick 20 mins. Ok, just kidding. Just wanted to see if you were still paying attention.

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!

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Hank, the powerplay and the penalty kill has to be on top, no Backman, dont change the lines and just score the first goal

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No stupid turnovers

Use your head when being pressured and don't give it away because you're afraid of being hit

Stop being so fancy and trying to lightly flick it out of the zone. Smack the thing out of there!

Aggressiveness on the PK. Give Gonchar and Malkin too much room and we're done

Double-team the hell out of Crosby and hope he doesn't find any open room. Kind of similar to what they're doing to Jagr

Hank needs to be sharp and not get bummed out if a soft one goes in. He can think about those goals during the offseason

Cycle in the offensive zone and get the Penguins tired playing defense. This seems to work well against them, but is hard to do

Finally, secondary scoring is pretty much a must. Chances are that either Jagr or Lundqvist will have an average game and we will need 3 + goals

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Figured this could be a jump start for some pre-game 5 discussion because we have another full day to wait until the boys hit the ice again.

5 things that I think the Rangers need to get the "W"
1. Henrik needs to be on his "A" game. The Penguins are going to be coming hard early trying to finish us off. Hank's gotta respond. That being said, we need to be able to match their intensity. Losing Game 5 would be a major confidence blow to the Penguins, they do not want to come back to NY. We gotta steal this one. 3-2, 2-1 type of game. If we get into a "track meet" we are done. First goal is huge too.

2. We need big performances from somebody other than Jagr. JJ is going to be ready for tomorrow afternoon, but we are going to need another good game from Drury and Shanahan. Scottie Gomez looked uncomfortable with Dawes and Callahan in Game 4, but we need him badly in Game 5.

3. We have to find a way to slow down the Penguins fore check. They were able to almost dominate us, despite not scoring, in the first period because of their fore check. We can't play the game in our zone. We also have to stick to our defensive plan from Game 4. We were physical with Crosby and Malkin which might not intimidate them, but it will certainly help limit their scoring chances. It is definitely a better option than letting them skate through everyone like they did in games 1-3.

4. Special teams. Its the most annoying cliche in the playoffs, but special teams are so big in the playoffs. We need to get a power play goal or two, and we have to keep up our efforts from Game 4 to stay out of the box. Our PK did a good job of not letting Pittsburgh set up, and we are going to need a similar effort.

5. The unsung hero. We need goals from somebody outside of the Jagr trio. Somebody like Petr Prucha, Ryan Callahan, Nigel Dawes needs to pot one.

Winning Game 5 is not impossible. We lost Game 1 by a goal, but could have been in overtime if Jags doesn't strike iron. We lost Game 2 by a goal as well, but could have been tied if not for a quick whistle. Those are the breaks, and we cannot change that. Just have to remember that its not like we have gotten blown out in either game.
If all 5 of these happen, and the Pens skate with no urgency again, the Rangers should win.

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Its pretty simple

NO PENALTIES!!!

the rangers held the pens to a powerplay in the 1st period, the next time they had one was in the late 3rd period

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Aside from Hank bringing his A game-Like many posters have said, no stupid penalties. If we give them too many PP opportunities they are going to convert eventually.

And as mstraka82 said, no Backman. Keep the exact same lineup.

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It's easier than it looks for game 5. Rangers need to get the first goal. It'll keep the crowd quiet... the pens will start feeling pressure of a rags comeback, and Henrik can actually stand on his head again knowing he has a lead.

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Good thought. It would really help to score first.

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if they play like they did in game 4..they can carry us

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I like the way Prucha has been playing and feel that he will have to bear a greater amount of responsibility for the Rangers to succeed, seeing that he is the freshest player on the ice and has been underachieving for a while.

Although the he hasn't scored, he also hasn't been put on his ass, and has been tough along the boards and on the forecheck. Wouldn't surprise me to see him net an important goal.

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The rangers will need to score a greater amount of goals than the Penguins during the game in order to win.

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The rangers will need to score a greater amount of goals than the Penguins during the game in order to win.
Dammit, beat me to it!

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Good thought. It would really help to score first.
Agree that is important, but even that won't make me feel good, considering scoring the first scoring the first three wasn't good enough in Game 1. Hopefully the focus will be a little bit better in this trip to Pitt.

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1)score more goals than pittsburgh.

2)give up fewer goals than pittsburgh.


either are ok with me

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10 of their 28 goals in the playoffs are PP goals. That is a good portion of their goals. If you take those out thats 18 goals in 8 games. Thats not spectacular. We can play with them at even strength and might be better.

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1)score more goals than pittsburgh.

2)give up fewer goals than pittsburgh.


either are ok with me
I don't know, this is the playoffs, I think they might need to do BOTH

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1. limit turnovers.
2. limit penalties

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Agree that is important, but even that won't make me feel good, considering scoring the first scoring the first three wasn't good enough in Game 1. Hopefully the focus will be a little bit better in this trip to Pitt.
Any time the Rangers score it should make you feel good. Hey if the Rangers want to take another three goal lead (or more) I'm not going to stop them just as long as they hold it this time.

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