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05-03-2008, 09:52 PM
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What the Habs lacked to win...

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Please lock this...it had nothing to do with a lack of leadership...my god!!

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Leadership, size, and DESIRE.

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Wow that's probably the last thing I was thinking about.

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I love Koivu.

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Please lock this...it had nothing to do with a lack of leadership...my god!!
Lock it because you disagree?

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luck. Mostly luck. At three or four points this playoff they could easily have won with one right bounce or one that got by the posts. This was the better team. In forty years of watching hockey, I've never seen a bigger discrepancy in quality not translate into a difference on the scoreboard.
Some sloppy goaltending,too, of course...

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Goaltending.

And it's really not to bash a 20 yo goalie, but to say that we dominated all five games. You can't blame the team who did the best they could.

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it's just luck... come on!!! Saku has been great... I haven't seen Kovalev a lot, though... but he always had 2-3 players around him.

leadership has absolutely nothing to do with it because the team NEVER quit!!!

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To me, it was a mix of bad luck and a shaky goalie. No need to start arguing with me, that's simply what I think. I think Price had way too much pressure in the end.

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To me, it was a mix of bad luck and a shaky goalie. No need to start arguing with me, that's simply what I think. I think Price had way too much pressure in the end.
You are right.

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To me, it was a mix of bad luck and a shaky goalie. No need to start arguing with me, that's simply what I think. I think Price had way too much pressure in the end.
Agreed.

Price may have been shakey, but he gave Montreal a chance to win.

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Goaltending.

And it's really not to bash a 20 yo goalie, but to say that we dominated all five games. You can't blame the team who did the best they could.
Lets not give some credit to a brilliant coaching staff who kept him in even after the 4-3 goal

I pretty much knew we were going to lose when I saw Price in the net to start the 3rd

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That is ******** who the **** are you to say that?? are you inside that dressing room?

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To me, it was a mix of bad luck and a shaky goalie. No need to start arguing with me, that's simply what I think. I think Price had way too much pressure in the end.
You're absolutely right. Not to mention that Biron was astounding in that series.

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Lock it because you disagree?
Lock because your comment and assessment as to why we lost this series lacks complete logic and sense. We did not lose this series because of a lack of leadership. Koivu worked his ass off as our captain on a fractured bloody foot. You want to list the fact that we hit every part of philly's posts, the fact that biron played incredible, the fact our goaltending was at times shakey, those would be reasons as to why we lost this series...lack of leadership is not one of those. god not only do we lose but we also have to put up with stupidity too!!

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luck. Mostly luck. At three or four points this playoff they could easily have won with one right bounce or one that got by the posts. This was the better team. In forty years of watching hockey, I've never seen a bigger discrepancy in quality not translate into a difference on the scoreboard.
Some sloppy goaltending,too, of course...
You hit the nail on the head. Habs had no luck, earlier Lats hits the post then Philly gets the deflection over Price. Most of the goals scored against Price were deflections and rebounds while the Habs must of hit the posts at least 30 times in this series. I was really pissed at that joke of a call on Price for holding when it was the Philly player grabbing Price. That set up a 5 on 3 that seemed to give life to the Flyers even though they didn't score. It didn't help that Komi's elbow which was a penalty all started when that little puke deliberately high stuck Komi after getting hit.

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That is ******** who the **** are you to say that?? are you inside that dressing room?
No but neither are you so disagreeing with me is just contradicting yourself

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What freaking series were you watching? Are you seriously that clueless?


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What the Habs really needed to win: puck luck.

Or call it "mojo".

Or call it "the breaks".

Or call it "opportunism".

Whatever you want to call it, the Flyers had it in spades and the Habs didn't -- four games long.

The Flyers had way fewer scoring chances than the Habs but buried them all... whereas the Habs had a much lower scoring rate. Skill and goaltending can explain some of that, but nowhere NEAR this discrepancy.

I foresee that analysts and many posters are going to make idiots of themselves trying to find something to explain these four losses, because they can't bring themselves to admit that ultimately, the Habs couldn't buy a goal or a break when they really needed one, despite countless scoring chances.

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Being unable to maintain the puck in the offensive zone during the powerplay, not enough patience when we actually maintain the puck in the offensive zone, no one really willing to pay the price and stick their bodies in front of Biron to get in his head, shakey goaltending. Our bottom 3 d-men (Brisebois, Bouillon and Gorges) were our best defense men...Was expecting a better performance by the others.

All season faceoffs were an issue for the Habs (I believe we were 5th worst) but during the playoffs we've been on fire in that category.

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Lets not give some credit to a brilliant coaching staff who kept him in even after the 4-3 goal

I pretty much knew we were going to lose when I saw Price in the net to start the 3rd
They had to. Winning with Price was our only chance of winning the cup. A win by Halak and Price still has no confidence. And Halak won't win us a cup (not right now at least).

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