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Draft Trade Chart

The NFL has a Draft Trade Chart that is used extensively by GMs. 2008 Version may be viewed at

www.profootballtalk.com/draft/draft-trade-chart/


Would an NHL version be applicable?

Comments appreciated.

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The NFL has a Draft Trade Chart that is used extensively by GMs. 2008 Version may be viewed at

www.profootballtalk.com/draft/draft-trade-chart/


Would an NHL version be applicable?

Comments appreciated.
What are the numbers supposed to mean?

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The NFL draft is a whole different beast. A lot more future trades and picks seem to be of more value(in terms of trading). I don't know about you but I wouldn't be giving up a ton of picks just to move from 10-7. NFL I'm surprised trades even happen sometimes. Plus NHL has it good, having entry level caps. NFl rookie 1st overall pick can get 30mil(guaranteed) signing bonus!!!! Thats pretty nuts, especially when the guy selected cough cough 'Jake Long' isn't the best player in the draft. 30 mil guaranteed for an LT who may not even be a LT.... lol, oh the Dolphins

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maybe but it would have some alterations, if for no other reason
than nfl prospects are expected to step in immediately and
produce, where as nhl prospects aren't expected to make an impact for
a couple of years (for the most part). And in the nfl draft picks are of much
higher value as compared with nhl draft picks when you look at the
type of compensation for those draft picks (probably because these
prospects are a few years away and are more of a crapshoot
considering they are normally 3-4 years younger when drafted than
nfl players).

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What are the numbers supposed to mean?
the numbers correspond to the values of the picks > so a pick worth 2600 and a pick worth 400 would equal the number 1 pick (3000)

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What are the numbers supposed to mean?
I'm pretty sure it's a chart used to peg the value of picks.

Example: To acquire the 1st overall pick (3000), you'd need to move the 2nd pick (2600) + the 50th pick (400).

In reality, it's not very practical to the NHL.

Edit: Beaten to the punch.

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What are the numbers supposed to mean?
The numbers represent trade values for draft picks. If a pick is valued at 3,000 points
then a team offering to trade for that pick would be expected to offer a combination of draft picks that totals app 3,000 points, probably a bit more.

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What are the numbers supposed to mean?
The numbers are sort of what you're pick is worth.

For example according to that chart if you had the 5th overall draft pick (1700 points) and the 10th overall draft pick (1300 points) then valuewise you could trade both picks for the 1st overall pick (3000 points).

However something to keep in mind is that in the NFL their picks have a lot more value then the picks in the NHL.

A guy like Brian Burke trades 2nd round draft picks like their candy but in the NFL a 2nd round draft pick is real valuable and teams dont trade them away for nothing.

A lot of times we'll see a trade in the NHL where a 5th or 6th or 7th round draft pick is added as a throw in but in the NFL that's a real valuable pick.

Players in the NFL don't last too long so you need as many picks as possible to stay competitive. The biggest reason why the NFL doesn't have gauranteed contracts is because in their system you just never know when a player is going to run out of gas(ie Shawn Alexender) and you have to cut ties with that player and give that spot to someone else who is more productive.

If you had gauranteed contracts in the NFL you'd see a ton of teams making a lot of major mistakes and it wouldn't keep the league as competitive. Now teams are able to dump contracts when players are finished use those draft picks to add players that can step in.

Can you imagine how many contracts would get throw out in the NHL if there weren't gauranteed contracts??

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maybe but it would have some alterations, if for no other reason
than nfl prospects are expected to step in immediately and
produce, where as nhl prospects aren't expected to make an impact for
a couple of years (for the most part). And in the nfl draft picks are of much
higher value as compared with nhl draft picks when you look at the
type of compensation for those draft picks (probably because these
prospects are a few years away and are more of a crapshoot
considering they are normally 3-4 years younger when drafted than
nfl players).
Balanced against the length of an NHL career and the number of NFL roster spots(53 + taxi + injured). Neither draft offers guarantees.

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I'm pretty sure it's a chart used to peg the value of picks.

Example: To acquire the 1st overall pick (3000), you'd need to move the 2nd pick (2600) + the 50th pick (400).

In reality, it's not very practical to the NHL.

Edit: Beaten to the punch.
Its not that simple... The second and a 50th in the NFL would not get you the 1st pick.

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