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05-05-2008, 06:26 PM
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1 rd 14 Drew Stafford- Was a little injured this year 16-22 in 48 games.
More like 16-22 in 64 games..


But yeah for the Devils' Zajac is already in the NHL and has 60 point potential with a more than solid two way game. Had a case of the sophmore slump but the skill is there and the main problem is his confidence. Like and earlier Devil fan said Eckford is the only other guy we have any hope for from this draft. I believe he led all D-man in college with points and has great size to go along with that skill. We shall see how it goes.

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05-05-2008, 06:31 PM
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2004 Bruins Summary

1 - Petteri Nokelainen(originally drafted by NYI): Aquired for Ben Walter and a conditional 2nd(based on games played which looks will be met). Played most of the year centering the 4th line. During the playoff's he was moved to the wing, where his he looks to be better suited. Strong on the puck, more the willing to hit.
2 - Carl Soderberg(orginally drafted by STL): Aquired for Hannu Toivenen. Had a terrific year for Malmo. Bruins will be looking to bring him over in the summer.
2 - David Krejci: Stepped up his game when Savard was injuried during a crucial part of the year. Had a solid series against the Habs.
2 - Martin Karsums: Has yet to make his NHL debut, has been described as a Tank on Skates. Should break into the Bruins with some games next year.
4 - Ashton Rome: Never signed by the Bruins, was redrafted by the Sharks.
5 - Kris Versteeg: Traded to the Blackhawks for Brandon Bochenski.
5 - Ben Walter: Appeard in 10 games for the Bruins before being traded to the Islanders(see Nokelainen)
7 - Matt Hunwick: Played 13 games for the Bruins this year due to injury. Looks to become a 6/7th defensemen.
8 - Anton Hedman: After playing a couple years in the OHL has gone back to Sweden and not made much of an impact.

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05-05-2008, 07:26 PM
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Tampa Bay
Rogers - Always injured, but may still have an outside chance at making it in the NHL.(1 pick ahead was Green Still that is the benefit of hindsight)
Lundin - Great pick, will be with the team for years i hope
Ramo - Late round pick that could become our starting goalie this year or next.
Keller - Could make the NHL, may even do out of camp if no improvements are made to the forward depth and he plays his butt off, if not he may get some games later in the year.

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05-05-2008, 07:40 PM
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Islanders:

2nd Round, 47th overall: Blake Comeau, will be a fixture on the 2nd/4th lines for a while. Isles love his jam and he made huge strides in his first season. Could be a very good 15-20g scorer that's defensively responsible. Was the reason I was a little miffed at Hunters 5 year contract as Comeau plays the same type of game, but is much much quicker on his skates.

7th Round, 227th overall: Chris Campoli. Was having a very good season points-wise till his injury. Looks like he's matured a lot so we're hoping the injury doesn't stall his progress. Seems like he could be a top 4 dman that sees a lot of time on the 2nd pp unit.

That's basically it, since O'Neill wasn't signed. Regier's in the Isles system, seemingly stuck at Bridgeport. Nokelainen went to Boston for Walter and a conditional 2nd rounder in 2009 (since met).

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05-05-2008, 07:51 PM
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Atlanta had a pretty brutal draft in '04. For them, I don't think it's too early to judge. Boris Valabik is looking like he might actually pan out, despite being a reach at #10 overall at the time. Grant Lewis has some promise but had some injury problems his first year as a pro. After that, it was a pretty bad draft for the Thrashers.

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05-06-2008, 11:55 AM
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So I agreed mostly but I like Sprunger.
I like Sprunger as well, the thing that makes me doubt him is that I read that he has had significant troubles with concussions and that he signed a big, long-time contract with his Swiss club last summer. I should have written that in my initial post.


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Clayton Stoners career has been hampered by untimely injuries. He's still our best defensive prospect for now and I expect him to play in the NHL soon unless he gets injured yet again. I think Reitz will make it before he will but agreed, injuries and all...
I really hope Reitz gets re-signed. If he doesn't get a NHL-only contract he'll go to Europe. It's certainly not unlikely that he gets one, with Nummelin, Hill and Carney leaving this summer.


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05-06-2008, 01:01 PM
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Steal of this draft would be johan franzen at 97th

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Steal of this draft would be johan franzen at 97th
So far, perhaps. It's still awfully early to tell.

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05-06-2008, 01:49 PM
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Steal of this draft would be johan franzen at 97th
He was like 24 when he was drafted. There will probably be better players drafted later in 6 years

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05-06-2008, 02:36 PM
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Blues

1 17 G Marek Schwarz- 2nd goalie taken in draft, still young and developing but has not shown very much at AHL or NHL level. Did do well in the ECHL going 11-2 in 14 appearances. I'd say the Blues are focusing their attention to local kid Ben Bishop for the goal tending future but Schwarz could certainly play his was into a starter role.

2 49 C Carl Soderberg- was a promising Blues prospect but his eye injury was a setback for the Blues who then traded him to Boston for Hannu Toivonen. Soderberg looks to be doing well for Malmo and could be in line to compete for a roster spot come training camp for the Bruins.

3 83 RW Viktor Alexandrov- Leads his Russian team(Metallurg) in goals, assists and points. Fast skater with aggressive style play. Have heard nothing as far as him coming to NA to play which is a disappointment.

4 116 LW Michal Birner- Great player in the OHL and played decent at the AHL level for the Blues. Was part of Andy McDonald/Doug Weight trade, so now a prospect for Anaheim.

5 136 D Nikita Nikitin- Physcial puck-moving defenseman who has put up decent numbers for Omsk in Russia. Could make jump to NA but has not made plans to.

6 180 D Roman Polak- Only skater to crack the Blues line-up from the draft. In 25 games he has one assist and a -2 rating. He is a physical defenseman who plays well in his own end. Rarely joins the rush so his offensive contribution from the back end lacks. Does have a hard slap shot but most of the time isn't in a position to use it. Has been called up to fill in for injuries to the blues blue line but come training camp this year he could earn a spot as the 5th or 6th defenseman.

7 211 LW David Fredriksson- Big, physical winger who uses his size as an advantage. He is limited offensively. Has not shown play well enough to play in NA, so he's likely to stay in the Swedish leagues.

9 277 RW Jonathan Boutin- Decent sized winger who put up good numbers in the CIS for Quebec Trois Rivieres.

Overall not a great draft for the Blues. Polak is the only bright spot here unless Schwarz finds his NA game or one of the Russians come to play in NA. Soderberg should be a good player for Boston, while Toivonen's career is still developing from his 2002 1st round 29th overall status.

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05-06-2008, 02:58 PM
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Steal of this draft would be johan franzen at 97th
Mike Green could give him a decent debate.

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Looking like a pretty average draft shaping up for the Jackets...

1. (8) Alex Picard - Even before his major knee injury, his NHL future was in doubt. If he makes the show fulltime, it will only be as a run-of-the-mill grinder.

2. (46) Adam Pineault - On the cusp of making an NHL team. Possess NHL calibur shot, solid PKer and willingness to play the body. Training camp will sort out where he starts, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him play in the bigs next season.

2. (59) Kyle Wharton - Defenseman that hasn't made an impact yet. Probably another two years before you can call any defenseman that hasn't made an impact yet a bust.

3. (93) Dan Lacosta - Was injured in the Elmira bus accident, fought back and earned playing tim in the AHL, putting up good numbers. He tops out as a NHL back up or AHL #1.

3. (96) Andrei Plekhanov - Has earned a contract following his first season on NA. Possess a booming shot. Should make the NHL has a PP specialist in a few seasons, if not more.

5. (133) Petr Pohl - NHL bust

6. (167) Robert Page - Done with his four years at Yale...doubt if he gets signed.

6. (190) Lennart Petrell - The next in line for crown of Finnish Superpest. Has had a good career in the Finnish league and I believe is playing at the Worlds for them. It sounds like he can be a good bottom 6 forward if he ever comes over.

Vienneau, Clitsome, Greer and McGuirk all probably won't amount to anything.

So you got one busted up player, two players in waiting, one that could play if he came over, and they rest probably won't pan out. Not all that great for having 12 picks.

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05-06-2008, 03:27 PM
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So you got one busted up player, two players in waiting, one that could play if he came over, and they rest probably won't pan out. Not all that great for having 12 picks.
That's for sure. 12 picks? Surprised they didn't package some of their extra picks for maybe a late 1st rounder or early 2nd...or just a higher pick or even a player.

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05-06-2008, 03:36 PM
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The Flyers might as well have not participated in the 2004 draft. We got a few AHLers and that's all.

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05-06-2008, 03:42 PM
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The Flyers might as well have not participated in the 2004 draft. We got a few AHLers and that's all.
That blows. 11 picks and your highest is 1, 3rd rounder. Ouch!

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05-06-2008, 03:59 PM
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3rd round: Alex Edler
The Edler pick looks great!


My question to the masses:

Would Alexander Radulov go third in this draft? If not - is he top 5? Who would you draft over him (aside from Ovechkin and Malkin)

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Calgary Flames 04' Draft

1-(24)-LW Kris Chucko - Playing for the Quad City Flames, 4th liner at best in the NHL if he can ever make it there, BUST.
3-(70)-LW Brandon Prust - Should be up next year with the big club, a nice pest with moderate offensive potential, decent pick.
3-(98)-C Dustin Boyd - Has good offensive talent, potential 2nd liner, good pick.
4-(118) C Aki Seitsonen - Will be a decent AHL'er but probably wont ever make the big team, average pick.
4-(121) LW Kris Hogg - In parts unknown, bust.
6-(173) D Adam Pardy - Quad City's top D-man, probably 1st NHL call-up this season, good pick.
6-(182) RW Fred Wikner - Will never cross the pond, bust.
7-(200) C Matthew Schneider - Parts unknown, bust.
7-(213) G Jimmy Spratt - Still in college, most likely a bust though.
9-(219) RW Adam Cracknell - Outside chance at a call up to the NHL, solid AHL'er, average pick.

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Blues

1 17 G Marek Schwarz- 2nd goalie taken in draft, still young and developing but has not shown very much at AHL or NHL level. Did do well in the ECHL going 11-2 in 14 appearances. I'd say the Blues are focusing their attention to local kid Ben Bishop for the goal tending future but Schwarz could certainly play his was into a starter role.

2 49 C Carl Soderberg- was a promising Blues prospect but his eye injury was a setback for the Blues who then traded him to Boston for Hannu Toivonen. Soderberg looks to be doing well for Malmo and could be in line to compete for a roster spot come training camp for the Bruins.

3 83 RW Viktor Alexandrov- Leads his Russian team(Metallurg) in goals, assists and points. Fast skater with aggressive style play. Have heard nothing as far as him coming to NA to play which is a disappointment.

4 116 LW Michal Birner- Great player in the OHL and played decent at the AHL level for the Blues. Was part of Andy McDonald/Doug Weight trade, so now a prospect for Anaheim.

5 136 D Nikita Nikitin- Physcial puck-moving defenseman who has put up decent numbers for Omsk in Russia. Could make jump to NA but has not made plans to.

6 180 D Roman Polak- Only skater to crack the Blues line-up from the draft. In 25 games he has one assist and a -2 rating. He is a physical defenseman who plays well in his own end. Rarely joins the rush so his offensive contribution from the back end lacks. Does have a hard slap shot but most of the time isn't in a position to use it. Has been called up to fill in for injuries to the blues blue line but come training camp this year he could earn a spot as the 5th or 6th defenseman.

7 211 LW David Fredriksson- Big, physical winger who uses his size as an advantage. He is limited offensively. Has not shown play well enough to play in NA, so he's likely to stay in the Swedish leagues.

9 277 RW Jonathan Boutin- Decent sized winger who put up good numbers in the CIS for Quebec Trois Rivieres.

Overall not a great draft for the Blues. Polak is the only bright spot here unless Schwarz finds his NA game or one of the Russians come to play in NA. Soderberg should be a good player for Boston, while Toivonen's career is still developing from his 2002 1st round 29th overall status.
Alexandrov agressive? Nikitin physical? No way. Nikitin has good size, but no good timing in hits, and Alexandrov is a finesse player.

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05-06-2008, 04:48 PM
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I'll do the Pens.

1-2 - Evgeni Malkin C

Nothing needs to be said here...it was an obvious and great pick after the Pens lost out in the lottery

2-31 - Johannes Salmonsson W

He's kicked around in Sweden for the past few years, but what a wasted pick. Bust.

2-61 - Alex Goligoski D

Currently in WBS. Was called up for a few games. Another offensive defenseman to add to the pile. Could get buried on the depth chart or used as trade bait down the line or replace someone currently filling the same role. Good pick.

3-67 - Nick Johnson R

Signed with WBS for their playoffs. Will probably spend at least a full year there. He's a bit of a "meh" pick.

3-85 - Brian Gifford C

Hasn't done a thing since he's been drafted. Long shot to do anything.

4-99 - Tyler Kennedy C

Had a really good rookie season with the Pens and plays a key role on the third line (making a guy like Colby Armstrong expendible at the deadline). Adds some speed and heart as well. Very good pick at this point in the draft.

5-130 - Michal Sersen D

Last I heard he finished his QMJHL career and is playing over in Slovakia. You might hear his name some day at the IIHF Championships someday...but even that would be a stretch.

6-164 - Moises Gutierrez R

He was a project from the get-go...and that project got gone.

7-194 - Chris Peluso D

Played the last two season for the powerhouse Bemidji State University program. Another pick that isn't going to work out.

7-222 - Jordan Morrison D

He showed some promise in Peterborough but then kind of disappeared, playing a season in the CIS before barely suiting up in the ECHL over the past 2 seasons.

8-228 - David Brown G

Played in WBS last season, spliting time with Ty Conklin and John Curry. He could maybe act as a backup in the NHL someday, but he's kinda lost on the Pens organizational goalie depth chart.

9-259 - Brian Ihnacak C

Last I heard he finished up at Brown after a disappointing junior year where he was benched for undisclosed reasons. He bounced back slightly in his senior year in 06-07 but has fallen off the map since then.

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Overall, not a great draft year for the Pens considering how many picks they made. But I guess any draft that nets you Evgeni Malkin can be seen as a success.

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