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05-06-2008, 05:34 PM
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Grabovski "probably returning to the RSL"?

Did anyone else catch that in Pat Hickey's column in today's Gazette? News to me, if it's true...I didn't think Grabovski had much of a future here but still a bit of a bummer to see him go.

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O'Byrne received some general guidelines on training from the team and said he had the usual goal of being "bigger, stronger and faster." He's one of six restricted free agents. The group includes the seldom-used Mikhail Grabovski, who appears headed back to the Russian Elite League, and fellow Belarusian Andrei Kostitsyn.


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05-06-2008, 05:37 PM
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I doubt he'll go.

I think he'll tough it out for another year or two and see what happens.

He obviously wanted to play in the NHL or he wouldn't of spent nearly two full seasons in Hamilton.

If in a year or two, he doesn't crack our roster (or traded to another team), I think he'd head back overseas.

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Who cares ? He still can't manage to stay on his feet and he's been here for a couple of years, I think this experiment is over.

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I doubt he'll go.

I think he'll tough it out for another year or two and see what happens.

He obviously wanted to play in the NHL or he wouldn't of spent nearly two full seasons in Hamilton.

If in a year or two, he doesn't crack our roster (or traded to another team), I think he'd head back overseas.
Maybe he gets dealt at the draft???

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Who cares ? He still can't manage to stay on his feet and he's been here for a couple of years, I think this experiment is over.
My thoughts exactly.

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Teams are desperate enough for skilled forward prosects. Someone would deal for him, and he'd probably take third line minutes on a struggling team before going to Russia.

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Everyone had doubts about Mark Streit's game but he surprised everyone here... I think Grabovski also has a good chance to do so.

Mikhail makes me think of Ribeiro... He could become better with more game experience in the NHL.

I say try hard to keep him, he is explosive and just needs to adjust his game to the NHL.

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You guys think we could get a 3rd rounder for him?

I would like to see the kid pan out, but it's a bit of an up hill climb for the him. I don't know if Mtl's third line really suits him.

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05-06-2008, 06:15 PM
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Did anyone else catch that in Pat Hickey's column in today's Gazette? News to me, if it's true...I didn't think Grabovski had much of a future here but still a bit of a bummer to see him go.
He isn't NHL material to me.

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Grabs' curve is still rising - that 20 pts in 12 games in Hamilton this year is impressive. The risk vs reward potential for him is still worth a shot, IMO, one more year would be a worthwhile gamble. Carbo has stated his preference for having three offensive lines. Lapierre looks to me like more of a winger than a center anyway. Koivu/Plek/Chip/Grabs could be productive and cheap. Lapierre or Begin could move back to center if it doesn't work out.

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You guys think we could get a 3rd rounder for him?

I would like to see the kid pan out, but it's a bit of an up hill climb for the him. I don't know if Mtl's third line really suits him.
No I don't see us getting a 3rd rounder for him personally.

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Did anyone else catch that in Pat Hickey's column in today's Gazette? News to me, if it's true...I didn't think Grabovski had much of a future here but still a bit of a bummer to see him go.
I didn't read the article, but the RSL can offer some big contracts so imo there's going to be concerns every year about players leaving for the rsl. (not saying the big name players of course)

I like what I saw from him in hamilton, but he did have his troubles in the nhl. I wouldn't want to lose him but I also wouldn't blame him if he left for a bigger contract. As I would be surprised if Gainey would give him more then what he made this year, in fact I would think that perhaps Gainey would give him a one way contract but for less then the 700K or so he made this year on a two way deal.

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You guys think we could get a 3rd rounder for him?
I think a 3rd is about right - same as Chistov got for the Ducks. I'd rather keep Mikhail anyway.

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05-06-2008, 06:27 PM
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I think a 3rd is about right - same as Chistov got for the Ducks. I'd rather keep Mikhail anyway.
Well Chistov was a 5th overall pick and had more then 27 games under his belt. I'd be surprised if someone would give up a 3rd for him but I guess it all depends on what a gm thinks of him.

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I didn't read the article, but the RSL can offer some big contracts so imo there's going to be concerns every year about players leaving for the rsl. (not saying the big name players of course)
The article was basically running down the situations of the Habs' free agents with about a sentence dedicated to each, and the Grabovski thing I posted is pretty much verbatim. There wasn't any detail at all.

But yeah I think if Grabovski has even the vaguest intentions of going back to Russia, there'll quickly be a contract ready for him from some team over there.

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The article was basically running down the situations of the Habs' free agents with about a sentence dedicated to each, and the Grabovski thing I posted is pretty much verbatim. There wasn't any detail at all.

But yeah I think if Grabovski has even the vaguest intentions of going back to Russia, there'll quickly be a contract ready for him from some team over there.
I think it was Hickey speculating wasn't it ?

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Found the article and edited it in to the first post.

I guess it's speculation but it's sort of out left field since I haven't heard anything about Grabovski returning to the RSL, which is why I made a topic here...trying to find out if this was news to anyone else.

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Found the article and edited it in to the first post.

I guess it's speculation but it's sort of out left field since I haven't heard anything about Grabovski returning to the RSL, which is why I made a topic here...trying to find out if this was news to anyone else.
I've heard talk about him going back to Russia a couple times over the course of the year, but so far everything seems to be just speculation. Sometimes where there's smoke, there's fire but I guess we'll see if he's back or not.

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Grabovski is worth a 5th or 6th at max, imo.

Drafted in the 5th round, would be happy to have the pick back.

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Did anyone else catch that in Pat Hickey's column in today's Gazette? News to me, if it's true...I didn't think Grabovski had much of a future here but still a bit of a bummer to see him go.

Edit: Found the article online

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazett...c9c0c5&k=64081
Grabs can be a good nhler...with his great speed and offense he showed this year in Hamilton, the problem is he won't get much a chance with Montreal basically set at center for a few years. I would try and deal him to a team like Buffalo for Afinogenov...good for both players. Buffalo looking to dump salary, Grabs would get his chance in Buffalo. Habs could use Afino's 60 points for even more balance scoring. That's if we can't sign a Jagr or Hossa

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I still want to see him play between Sergei and Andrei, give him minutes with skilled players and he will impress.

7 points in 12 games with a plus 1 rating since his recall is pretty decent considering he got hardly any PP time and he played around 12 minutes a game.

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Man does everyone hate this guy..

He's been improving every year, like the guy above my post said, 7 points in 12 games since his most recent recall is very good, given who he was playing with. He HAS what it takes to play in the NHL, as long as he works hard just like everyone this summer.

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I hope he stays, I think he's got the offensive talent and speed to be a useful player in this league.

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the habs should try to get this situation rectified with grabovski. Try to make him feel welcome and a part of the team. I really feel that he can be an offensive weapon in the future if hes put on the wing with the correct linemates. If he tells them that hes going back to russia the habs should try to deal him and at least get someone or a pick for him.

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I'm going to save these negative comments and toss 'em back at you next year when Lapierre and Latendresse are in 20 game goalless slumps and Grabbo is on a goal scoring tear either here or elsewhere. Thanks for the material chumps.

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I'm going to save these negative comments and toss 'em back at you next year when Lapierre and Latendresse are in 20 game goalless slumps and Grabbo is on a goal scoring tear either here or elsewhere. Thanks for the material chumps.
You know there's a limit to how many players a team can have in its organisation, don't you? Gtrabovski has defined limits on what he can do. Lapierre isn't expected to be a big goal scorer but he is a disturber where Grabovski is more of a pinata. Latendresse hasn't scored a goal in a long time but he has a defined role that Grabovski can't fill. I don't know how you can extrapolate Grabovski into a big goal scorer. When wil he learn to do that? First he has to learn just to stay on his skates instead of his rear end.

Finally, why do you look down on everyone as chumps for disagreeing with you? Why are your eyebrows raised so superciliously? Do you use Botox like an aging movie queen?


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