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05-23-2008, 10:58 PM
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Bogosian, Timmins has a huge crush on him.
really where does it comes from... And what happens if Bogosian goes 2nd?

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Atlanta 3rd overall pick may be our soon...
could you elaborate more please?

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really where does it comes from... And what happens if Bogosian goes 2nd?
Doughty? Pietrangelo? Boedker? Filatov? Hodgson?

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05-23-2008, 11:13 PM
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Bogosian, Timmins has a huge crush on him.
I just don't get what we'd give to get this pick and why...

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05-23-2008, 11:19 PM
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Atlanta 3rd overall pick may be our soon...
You're going to have to give a bit more information than that...

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Forget 2008. Gainey is looking at 2009...
and you know this....how...?


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05-23-2008, 11:22 PM
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Forget 2008. Gainey is looking at 2009...
that would make sense only if you want to make a show... But, Gainey is an architect with a vision. If he can do his move now, he'll do it now, he won't wait another year because the draft is in Montreal. Also, if the opportunity is there, it most likely won't be next year.

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05-23-2008, 11:38 PM
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Forget 2008. Gainey is looking at 2009...
You guys are hilarous.

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Atlanta 3rd overall pick may be our soon...
Waddell did trade Coburn for Zhitnik... rights to Streit for the the third overall pick?

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05-24-2008, 01:30 AM
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I wouldn't mind Ness at #25. His skating and puck possession are phenominal in this video.


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I'm sure Gainey would love an extra 1st rounder in 2009 but I'm sure he's also realistic. Everyone knows it's going to be the best draft ever so no one will give up their early picks. If Gainey wants to trade up, 2008 is the year.

Ness looks intriguing too. Small but really quick and agile. I love how he gets the puck off his stick quickly with all of his passes and they are all tape to tape. The best part of those clips is that he pinches a lot but never hurts his team doing so, he skates so well it's hard for him to get caught.


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What would be have to give up to get another pick between our first and second?

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I wouldn't mind Ness at #25. His skating and puck possession is phenominal in this video.
Thanks for the video mate. Great stuff.

Ness is definitely the real deal. Even if he remains a liability defensively in the league (which I doubt since he's pretty solid in his own end already), he could be a biiiiig time sleeper. I actually would consider trading up to get this guy simply because we'll need replacement for Markov and he could be it.

Plus, I highly doubt he'll be still available at #25 tbh.

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05-24-2008, 02:23 AM
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Thanks for the video mate. Great stuff.

Ness is definitely the real deal. Even if he remains a liability defensively in the league (which I doubt since he's pretty solid in his own end already), he could be a biiiiig time sleeper. I actually would consider trading up to get this guy simply because we'll need replacement for Markov and he could be it.

Plus, I highly doubt he'll be still available at #25 tbh.
I could actually see him at 25th. There is a huge amount of defencemen this year, so he could slip under the radar. Also Gardiner and Carlson are both Minnesota boys too and bigger than Ness, so teams scared of his size might opt to go with one of those two instead. Then again Thomas Hickey went much higher than expected last year and he's a smallish guy. Granted that was Lombardi and he always seems to pick out of left field.

If you pair him with an O'Byrne, his size really doesn't become a factor anymore. I look at a guy like Letang who is small yet wins the majority of puck battles. That's all you need.

I think with the depth on defence the Habs have, taking a chance on Ness would be smart. He either pans out and becomes a premium offensive force, or he busts and we live with our other guys. Then Gainey can move up with his 2nd and 3rd rounder to pick up a Jokinen or Deschamps, if they are still around.

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05-24-2008, 02:25 AM
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Here's an interview with Boedker made by HF. Really interesting. If you're already a big fan of his, you'll love him even more.

I'd definitely consider trading up for this kid, but I don't even know if a top 6 is enough to snag him.

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I could actually see him at 25th. There is a huge amount of defencemen this year, so he could slip under the radar. Also Gardiner and Carlson are both Minnesota boys too and bigger than Ness, so teams scared of his size might opt to go with one of those two instead. Then again Thomas Hickey went much higher than expected last year and he's a smallish guy. Granted that was Lombardi and he always seems to pick out of left field.

If you pair him with an O'Byrne, his size really doesn't become a factor anymore. I look at a guy like Letang who is small yet wins the majority of puck battles. That's all you need.

I think with the depth on defence the Habs have, taking a chance on Ness would be smart. He either pans out and becomes a premium offensive force, or he busts and we live with our other guys. Then Gainey can move up with his 2nd and 3rd rounder to pick up a Jokinen or Deschamps, if they are still around.
I don't know seriously. Sure there are lots of talented defencemen, yet lots of them are puckmovers. So, if a team is looking for a pure puckmover D-man, they'll most likely take the one with the most potential and that'd be Ness (Del Zotto is pretty bad in his own end). IMO he'll be gone in the top 20.

Exactly. Good points.


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05-24-2008, 05:12 AM
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What about Johan Motin? http://www.eliteprospects.com/player...r=6953&lang=en. Big, very strong, good skater, who plays a mature game. Difficult to assess his offensive upside as he has played it safe in eliteserien.

He suffered through a bit of a sophemore slump this year and had a disappointing wjc, but has already played two years in eliteserien which is quite an achievement for a defenseman. He received lots of accolades in Sweden for his play last year and is highly touted. I am much higher on him than on Anton Gustafsson, who although seems to be hyped here, doesnt have that many fans in sweden.

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05-24-2008, 06:44 AM
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Why is everyone talking defencemen?

Booooooooooooooooooooring.

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What about Johan Motin? http://www.eliteprospects.com/player...r=6953&lang=en. Big, very strong, good skater, who plays a mature game. Difficult to assess his offensive upside as he has played it safe in eliteserien.

He suffered through a bit of a sophemore slump this year and had a disappointing wjc, but has already played two years in eliteserien which is quite an achievement for a defenseman. He received lots of accolades in Sweden for his play last year and is highly touted. I am much higher on him than on Anton Gustafsson, who although seems to be hyped here, doesnt have that many fans in sweden.
Many of us are of course crippled by only seeing Motin in those disappointing WJCs. Based on that alone, however, he wouldn't even be on my draft list. Period. i.e. I wouldn't take him in the 7th round. Of course that's ridiculously harsh, and I acknowledge that, but with nothing more to go on, and with our already well-stocked d-cupboard, he's certainly not a player I would be thinking about. But that's just me.

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05-24-2008, 10:06 AM
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Atlanta 3rd overall pick may be our soon...
A quite intriguing post i should say...
Cant help but wonder.

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Atlanta 3rd overall pick may be our soon...
Are Gainey and Waddell even on speaking terms anymore after Waddell pulling the plug on Hossa/Hedberg to Habs deal?

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05-24-2008, 01:15 PM
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He already has 2 second round choice in 2009
So because he has two picks in the second round...that means hes looking passed the 08 draft and just concerned with 09??? great logic...

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05-24-2008, 01:39 PM
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He already has 2 second round choice in 2009
This makes no sense whatsoever. Please stop.

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Uhh, how, our first, Halak and a prospect?
Ryder/Halak & 2nd

Waddell won't know Ryder is a UFA

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Here's an interview with Boedker made by HF. Really interesting. If you're already a big fan of his, you'll love him even more.

I'd definitely consider trading up for this kid, but I don't even know if a top 6 is enough to snag him.
2nd most dynamic player in this draft. Id take him 2nd.

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2nd most dynamic player in this draft. Id take him 2nd.
Tends to disappear, doesn't throw hits. I'd rather go for a Doughty or Bogosian, two possible gamebreakers from the back end.

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05-24-2008, 05:58 PM
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2nd most dynamic player in this draft. Id take him 2nd.
Woah. Ya.. like Le_sean just said.. he ain't at the same level as doughty, bogosian or filatov.

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