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06-17-2008, 09:52 AM
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Should pickup Mitch Bruijsten (USHL - Sioux City) as the 7th round pick, need dutchies on the Habs

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Should pickup Mitch Bruijsten (USHL - Sioux City) as the 7th round pick, need dutchies on the Habs
Scouting reports?

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Talent Analysis

Bruijsten is another big guy with great speed and a good shot. As a power winger, he is effective driving off the wing and crashing the net. Is noted to be hard to move off the puck and hard to move in and around the net. In a short time in North America, he has learned to play with a lot of intensity and has become fairly physical. Possesses a very good skill set, which gives him the ability to either setup plays or finish with positive results. Has also been used at center ice, where he is good taking face-offs and creating opportunities.

©Hockeysfuture :: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/5485


Also has been noted just out of the top 5 of USHL prospects. Been named as one of the few other potential prospects:

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article...pects_for2008/

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Talent Analysis

Bruijsten is another big guy with great speed and a good shot. As a power winger, he is effective driving off the wing and crashing the net. Is noted to be hard to move off the puck and hard to move in and around the net. In a short time in North America, he has learned to play with a lot of intensity and has become fairly physical. Possesses a very good skill set, which gives him the ability to either setup plays or finish with positive results. Has also been used at center ice, where he is good taking face-offs and creating opportunities.

©Hockeysfuture :: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/5485


Also has been noted just out of the top 5 of USHL prospects. Been named as one of the few other potential prospects:

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article...pects_for2008/
Sounds definitely interesting. I'd love for our draft to be centered around guys with size, speed and scoring ability. Which is why I'm intrigued a lot by a guy like Jack Downing.

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06-17-2008, 10:18 AM
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Now that said, I believe he, as would any veteran G-man, have to pass thru waivers to move back & forth from Montreal to Hamilton.
I assure you, sir, I am NOT moving to either Montreal or Hamilton!

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06-17-2008, 10:43 AM
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06-17-2008, 10:46 AM
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Jokinen to LA?

Eh? Why? They already have a goalscoring centerman in Cammalieri, and a true #1 in Kopitar. The Kings want to build around Kopitar/Brown/Bernier/Johnson/DoughtyorBogosian...

Doesn't make sense to me.

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06-17-2008, 10:50 AM
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I hope we do something to accumulate a couple extra picks.

Hopefully they have interest in Dandenault
If Ottawa gave us some picks to take Emery, I'd have no inner conflict about taking that deal, then turning around and buying Emery out. We get the $500k cap hit. $500k isn't that much. And it's not my $2M.

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06-17-2008, 11:11 AM
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What is you guys take on Josh Brittain for a 2nd round pick.

He might not be the most skilled but he would IMO be just what the doctor order for MTL. Of course if there is one guy that drops, take him but I really like Brittain. Could turn out into a Lucic #2 if things go well.

Anyone?

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06-17-2008, 11:24 AM
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Note that the I would take most of the top 20 prospect that should and will be gone when we talk. Won't even add guys like Carlson, Teubert, Gardiner 'cause I really believe they'll be gone. But Carlson would definately be a pick I would take if he's still there.

So based mostly on who I saw the most, who I heard and read about the most and tons of gut feelings, here are my picks:

1ST ROUND:

1-Anton Gustafsson
2- Nicolas Deschamps -
3- Aaron Ness
4- Justin Jokinen
5- Joe Colborne

HM: Zac Dalpe (Might turn out as a more complete, grittier Ben Maxwell), Mattias Tedenby (should be gone, if not, I like him, Parisé type of player who's not afraid to take a hit despite his stature, underrated by a lot of people, not by me)
I really think it will come down to who's left available as well. If available I would give Cuma some serious consideration as well.
But I think Deschamps will be their pick if he is there.



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2ND ROUND

1 - Maxime Sauvé
2- Evgeny Grachev
3- Patrice Cormier
4 - Cody Goloubef
5- Erik Karlsson

HM: Kirill Petrov ( See Grachev, liked him a lot the few times I saw him), Daultan Leveille (Has to be considered for the same reasons I voted for Ness, has that extraordinariy quality that you should look for, still there's a lot of questions marks in his game ...) and Jimmy Hayes who's a last minute riser for me. You just can't disregard his physical attributes.
Leveille may just be on their radar list, but I think Karlsson or Cormier may have more upside if either are still available. Would you be tempted to reach for Fienhage at this point in the draft?


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3RD ROUND (Round of the big guys but still unknown potential....)

1- Luke Adam
2- Danick Paquette
3- Nick Larson
4- Corey Fienhage
5- Derek Grant

HM: Here comes my trio of big guys who I have no idea how they'll develop: James Wright, Geordie Wudrick and James Livingstone. Would take any of those 3 right now. Obviously some shouldn't still be there but as much as I would to predict how they'll be able to bring their game offensively at the next level, can't say I've seen them enough to judge but their package is interesting.
This may be the round they reach for a goalie depending on which of them is still available.




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4TH ROUND:

1- Jacob Lagacé
2- David Ullstrom
3- Philip McRae
4- Robert Czarnik -
5- Ian Schultz

HM: Seth Soley ( a guy that loves taking the puck in the corners....can I have more of those please? Wonder if he could last till the 7th.....don't believe he will), Mark Barberio ( Really believe he'll be a good 2-way down the stretch, love his presence on the ice and see him as having a good potential. Might take a while to develop though) and Marc-André Bourdon (was talked a lot on this board, should be another sleeper though he's less and less the sleeper type while you can't stop talking about him. Once he improves his skating, he will become a better pick than he actually already is)
What do you think of guys like Quailer,Brodeur and Kristo at this stage. Is it too early...too late on some. Would you take a chance on a Southorn?

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06-17-2008, 12:03 PM
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http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20.../5228/CPSPORTS

Joel Champagne seems to think that the Habs are interested in him.

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06-17-2008, 01:10 PM
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does anyone know who were the players at the habs combine?

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What is you guys take on Josh Brittain for a 2nd round pick.

He might not be the most skilled but he would IMO be just what the doctor order for MTL. Of course if there is one guy that drops, take him but I really like Brittain. Could turn out into a Lucic #2 if things go well.

Anyone?
It has been said here that Timmins is not the least bit impressed by Brittain.

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06-17-2008, 02:34 PM
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It has been said here that Timmins is not the least bit impressed by Brittain.
If he's not impressed by Brittain, I fail to see how Champagne would interest him....sure he's a center, sure he's big, sure he's.....that would be it....

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06-17-2008, 02:37 PM
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Joel Champagne seems to think that the Habs are interested in him.
Like I was saying before, will never call for anybody's head....but I would be dissapointed, especially if we're talking in the first 3 rounds. 4th round? Maybe....but I would not pick him. The guy will not be an effective point producer in the NHL and does not fit the bill of a gritty 3rd liner specialist.

Sorry, but I really really don't like him. Let's hope he makes me eat crow if we pick him, but I'll pray somebody else will pick him....

This is where the "need to go local" sometimes scares me a lot....

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Jokinen to LA?

Eh? Why? They already have a goalscoring centerman in Cammalieri, and a true #1 in Kopitar. The Kings want to build around Kopitar/Brown/Bernier/Johnson/DoughtyorBogosian...

Doesn't make sense to me.
Cammalieri can easily play the wing... In fact, isn't he a winger?

What's with that EMO Hamrlik? A fantasy of yours?

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Leveille may just be on their radar list, but I think Karlsson or Cormier may have more upside if either are still available. Would you be tempted to reach for Fienhage at this point in the draft?

This may be the round they reach for a goalie depending on which of them is still available.




What do you think of guys like Quailer,Brodeur and Kristo at this stage. Is it too early...too late on some. Would you take a chance on a Southorn?
Fienhage in the 2nd? Maybe. Type of pick that at first I will think it's too soon for me but has a lot of potential to see us eat crow right after. I like the kid. Just not sure I won't like other players before him or that he has enough upside to go that soon. Though our 2nd round is 50ish so.....he might be just the BPA at that point. Like I was saying, I'm pretty sure the guys I've named at our respective picks, a majority won't even be there. I did that list so it could be a dream list for me, hoping that it's a draft where we'll see tons of "Hickey's" along the way....

I agree that 3rd or 4th, I won't be surprised to see a goalie taken there. Would love to see Jake Allen, especially since the Montreal Junior traded Pielmeier making Allen their #1 and I'll be able to go see him play quite often. Same for Luke Adam up front. As far as the other goalies are concerned, since Pickard and McCollum won't be there, would love to see a Delmas drop that far but he shouldn't. Same for Holtby. Others like Hutchinson are interesting. As far as Poulin is concerned, he could be an ideal.....7th rounder.....Let's hope he did hurt his stock for our benefit making him practically a perfect 7th pick.

You mean that Quailer??? Andrew Conboy part 2??? You love them mean do you???

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fhoHHxRpN1k

Don't know him too much. But by the description on HF, you have to wonder why he's ranked so low 'cause he has some nice breakway speed, good hands, good vision, good playmaking, shoots well, quick release, protect the puck in the corners, fights, great size but just needs to fill it out? You're right, seems interesting to me and might be a candidate to rise come draft day. So sure, I'd like him. Just didn't know him much so he couldn't be amongst my favorites...but now....by that description, how can you not like him?

As far as Brodeur, like the size but don't see much upside in his game. And Kristo, I like him maybe more than a lot of people do so I really believe he surely won't be there in the 4th. I didn't add him to my list 'cause I believe the 1st it's too soon, there's still a lot of players that I like a lot in the 2nd though he could have been gone already but chances are he fell in the 3rd and he's not there for our 3rd pick.

Southorn would be a fine choice with me. Though again, while it's not as definitive as a guy for Brodeur for example, I have trouble seeing a lot of upside in this guy especially offensively. But wouldn't be against it.....would prefer as a 4th rounder though.

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06-17-2008, 03:00 PM
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Wouldn't be disapointed with Tedenby!!!

Just saw a video of Mathias Tedenby. Very impressive. I'm the first to say that we have enough small forwards and that we need a big, skilled centre, but this kid looks good. Despite his size, he protects the puck extremely well and looks very solid on his skates. Remind anybody of Saku... before the knee injury and a better scoring touch?(what a goal!!!). I don't know if it was just the camera work or what, but man, he looks fast. TSN has him at 26th. I'd be happy if we got him. Very exciting player to watch.


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Nice work Whitesnake...
However, what's your opinion on Trivino? I haven't seen him play, but the more I read up on him, the more I like his offensive potential...

Thanks
I do like his potential but he surely won't be there in the 2nd round so my question was do I prefer him over my top 5 list in the 1st round and for me the answer is no....He come close at making my HM list but in the end, I prefered Dalpé to him, Zac seems more complete while Trivino might end up a better offensive player though I believe Dalpe's skills are underrated offensively.

But we would pick him and I won't be dissapointed.

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I've come to want Deschamps now, at first I didn't, but the more I find out about him the better he gets.

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It's not like there's a Draft Talk thread up top or anything.

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Don't worry about it le_sean, everything gets merged these days.

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Just saw a video of Mathias Tedenby. Very impressive. I'm the first to say that we have enough small forwards and that we need a big, skilled centre, but this kid looks good. Despite his size, he protects the puck extremely well and looks very solid on his skates. Remind anybody of Saku... before the knee injury and a better scoring touch?(what a goal!!!). I don't know if it was just the camera work or what, but man, he looks fast. TSN has him at 26th. I'd be happy if we got him. Very exciting player to watch.
PS: Found the video at http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?page=Draf...e&service=page
Go to european prospects.
He'll be gone between 10th and 20th...TSN has him too low.

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Just saw a video of Mathias Tedenby. Very impressive. I'm the first to say that we have enough small forwards and that we need a big, skilled centre, but this kid looks good. Despite his size, he protects the puck extremely well and looks very solid on his skates. Remind anybody of Saku... before the knee injury and a better scoring touch?(what a goal!!!). I don't know if it was just the camera work or what, but man, he looks fast. TSN has him at 26th. I'd be happy if we got him. Very exciting player to watch.
PS: Found the video at http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?page=Draf...e&service=page
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I want to see the video too. FIX YOUR LINK

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San Jose, Ottawa, Florida and Montreal are interested in one of the Blue Jackets' first two picks, NHL sources say, but such a trade wouldn't likely go down until after the first five picks play out Friday.
I wonder who they'd be really interested in at 6 or 19... and who or what they'd have to give up...


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