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05-18-2008, 11:23 PM
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Sigh...I'm so sick of Idiots in Adult Leagues...

I'm so tired of idiots throwing cheapshots and hits that could seriously injure someone.

Yes hockey even in an non-contact league gets a bit physical with a crosscheck in front of the net, or some minor contact along the boards but tonight I had to witness another one of my stupid teammates go overboard because he cannot control himself.

He got a bit of a slash across the hands...he turns around with a full 2 hand swing with his stick missing the guy....then the guy he meant to hit is facing the boards and he crosschecks him in the back full force into the boards...thus injuring the player and his helmet flying off.

I mean, give me a god damn break...I almost wanted to get off the bench and give my own teammate a beating.

How ****ing stupid can you be? Wow you took a slash..suck it up. Instead he tries to break someones neck.

I wish adult leagues instead of just handing out a 5 min major and a game misconduct would kick these morons out of the league altogether. We are adults, respect each other, you take a bit of a slash or a little contact then suck it up. Its hockey, its going to happen, but to try to break someone neck, deliver a cheap punch, take out a knee...etc....c'on. I wish adult leagues would get rid of these idiots. I play in 3 adult leagues for FUN, its great to go to work on a game day knowing that I have a game that night because I enjoy playing the game.

Unfortunately leagues just care about the money so they would never kick someone out of their league.

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I agree. I have seen many players receive multiple "last warnings". It's stupid and dangerous to let some of the idiots continue to play but all they care about is getting a paying body in the league.

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Same thing happen to me tonight. My teammate got caught cheating and I was playing D. The guy slid the puck around me but ran smack into me. He got up *****in about interference. He did the same thing three different times. When non was called He chucked his stick and hit one of my players in the face. Good thing he was wearing a cage. They tossed him tonight. New ref who actually cares about the players.

His team was yelling at him to shut the **** up and chill out. One of his own players (twice as big as him) "escorted" him off the rink. "escorting" meaning throwing him around a bit on the way out. We won 7-5 ( I recorded 4 assists) Since we don't stop the clock, for penalties, he wasted about 3-4 minutes of our playing time. Grow a pair and take it like a man or don't play.

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this **** happens at any level of hockey. brutal unnecessary, two things you can do about it. shrug it off (because it happens often enough) or hang up the skates.
really embarrassing to the guy that does it thats forsure.

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Got my collarbone shattered into bits pretty much the same way. Some guy got decked in the no-check league I was in and thought I did it so he came back and rammed me into mounted speaker from behind in retaliation. I'm told you could hear the sound of my collarbone splintering apart throughout the rink. That was over 2 years ago and I haven't been able to play since. I can't even take a wrist shot now my shoulder is so messed up. Oh, and the guy who did it? Never even got an apology and the league did nothing about it because it was an "unfortunate accident". Ya whatever.....

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Got my collarbone shattered into bits pretty much the same way. Some guy got decked in the no-check league I was in and thought I did it so he came back and rammed me into mounted speaker from behind in retaliation. I'm told you could hear the sound of my collarbone splintering apart throughout the rink. That was over 2 years ago and I haven't been able to play since. I can't even take a wrist shot now my shoulder is so messed up. Oh, and the guy who did it? Never even got an apology and the league did nothing about it because it was an "unfortunate accident". Ya whatever.....
That right there is total ********. People need to start thinking before taking runs at other people.

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Got my collarbone shattered into bits pretty much the same way. Some guy got decked in the no-check league I was in and thought I did it so he came back and rammed me into mounted speaker from behind in retaliation. I'm told you could hear the sound of my collarbone splintering apart throughout the rink. That was over 2 years ago and I haven't been able to play since. I can't even take a wrist shot now my shoulder is so messed up. Oh, and the guy who did it? Never even got an apology and the league did nothing about it because it was an "unfortunate accident". Ya whatever.....
thats pure horse **** right there. i would bash the league so bad after that, and id give it bad publicity, go to a paper share the story. thats bull ****
it sucks have a broken collarbone, i had a clean but bad break **** i hated it it was the wierdest feeling ever. it was an initial sharp pain but really nothing after until i tried moving my arm then i was like ohhh **** this cant be good.

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If I get a nasty slash across my knuckles, I tend to lose my mind. I'm not saying I approve, I just get blinded with anger and pain. As a result I've speared my old History professor in the gut and smacked my best friend in the shoulder and yes, I'm disappointed in myself.

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FlyLine, take a look around and see if you can find any private groups. I used to get the same stuff in adult league, but managed to get myself invited into some private groups that play. They play with all the rules. One even has a ref, though the others call themselves. But it's no-jerks hockey, and if you turn into a jerk, you get thrown out. The quality of the hockey is high and the attitudes are even better. It's the most fun hockey I've ever played.

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I use to hate playing and having someone give me what i felt was a cheap shot and would usally talk some kinda crap and skate away but over this past winter i have really calmed down. have only been kicked out of 2 games really for arguing with the ref over horrible calls.but what really gets me going is that refs that call bad penaltys. i got punched twice in the back of the head last game and he took us both to the box. i asked him why both and he told me well its only fair. that gets me more heated than a guy who slashes and grabs me.

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Hopefully none of these guys coach kids - but you know some of them do.

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Got my collarbone shattered into bits pretty much the same way. Some guy got decked in the no-check league I was in and thought I did it so he came back and rammed me into mounted speaker from behind in retaliation. I'm told you could hear the sound of my collarbone splintering apart throughout the rink. That was over 2 years ago and I haven't been able to play since. I can't even take a wrist shot now my shoulder is so messed up. Oh, and the guy who did it? Never even got an apology and the league did nothing about it because it was an "unfortunate accident". Ya whatever.....
that's ****ing wrong

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Hopefully none of these guys coach kids - but you know some of them do.
There was a guy on my team that coached kids and had some of them at our adult league game and during it he yapped at the refs over a call, freaked out in the penalty box, got kicked out of the game, all with a bunch of 10 year olds under his charge watching. I couldn't believe it.

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I used to play in a non contact summer league. Because of my height (almost 5'10) and playing ability I was a constant target. Not saying that i was the best, because I wasn't, but I was a SMARTER player than most.
Anyway, there was a girl on the other team (their captain, I was the captain of our team) went behind the net with the puck. I angeled her off, stole the puck, made an outlet pass to one of our wingers, was the trailer and scored.
I made my way back to the bench and the coach on the other team grabs my jersey and starts FREAKING out. I checked his wife from behind. I speared her in the gut. I skated over her hand. I punched her in the face. Ect ect.

Well, I dropped my stick and tried to pull away and while I was doing that their huge girl (we called her Mother Earth) checks me about a foot from the boards. I go in, dent my cage and tore the bicep tendon.

Needless to say our team never went back to that league. I never got so much of an apology and it was the THIRD time something had happened to me.

Yet, I had a "record". With my 12 PIM (all for bodychecking or interference.)

I hate Adult Leagues.

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how about playing with guys during pick up that are the nicest of guys. then when its a league game they turn into a hanson brother. *** is that, your 35 there are no scouts in the stands. have fun, drink some beer, get away from the spouse. hang out with the boys.

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Precisely why I stopped playing in adult leagues. Most of the time it's guys who have never played competetive full contact hockey and don't have a clue what a real slash is or a real hit. They get a little tap and they start screaming or losing their minds and looking for someone to kill. I don't recall ever having an issue with someone who has actually played "real hockey" before. Adult league guys have always played with facemasks on and they skate with their sticks high and they shoot high and have zero regard for anyone else on the ice. I know I am generalizing because I have played with some real good guys in those leagues too but the few a holes seem to overshadow the good ones. I found a group at my old rink that I played with for about 20 years and pretty much everyone had made money playing somewhere at sometime. We actually have a league here with 4 teams that is mostly ex pros and ex college guys and everyone just comes out and skates and respects each other. A little tug on the arm with a stick now and then a little bump in the corner. Shots from the point are below the waste and sticks are down. If we have that here you must be able to find an equivelent in most places in the U.S. and certainly in Canada.

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I'm so tired of idiots throwing cheapshots and hits that could seriously injure someone.

Yes hockey even in an non-contact league gets a bit physical with a crosscheck in front of the net, or some minor contact along the boards but tonight I had to witness another one of my stupid teammates go overboard because he cannot control himself.

He got a bit of a slash across the hands...he turns around with a full 2 hand swing with his stick missing the guy....then the guy he meant to hit is facing the boards and he crosschecks him in the back full force into the boards...thus injuring the player and his helmet flying off.

I mean, give me a god damn break...I almost wanted to get off the bench and give my own teammate a beating.

How ****ing stupid can you be? Wow you took a slash..suck it up. Instead he tries to break someones neck.

I wish adult leagues instead of just handing out a 5 min major and a game misconduct would kick these morons out of the league altogether. We are adults, respect each other, you take a bit of a slash or a little contact then suck it up. Its hockey, its going to happen, but to try to break someone neck, deliver a cheap punch, take out a knee...etc....c'on. I wish adult leagues would get rid of these idiots. I play in 3 adult leagues for FUN, its great to go to work on a game day knowing that I have a game that night because I enjoy playing the game.

Unfortunately leagues just care about the money so they would never kick someone out of their league.
Too many beer league donkey's think they're playing in the NHL.

What happened as a result of the crosscheck? Did the other team react? Your guy get booted?

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Too many beer league donkey's think they're playing in the NHL.

What happened as a result of the crosscheck? Did the other team react? Your guy get booted?
I was going to say the same thing. Some guys go overboard. I play and I play hard and I'll get a little chippy here and there, give guys extra shoves, but once the whistle blows, I stop. If someone knocks me down or slashes me or whatever, I just skate away and keep playing. I never do anything that will piss someone off and have never given anyone any cheap shots.

I always see guys who will go and cheap shot someone and then a big fight starts.

Or a guy takes another guy down or gets in someone else's face and then the guys start yelling and talking crap to each other like they're going to fight.

Then sometimes you see guys get into actual fights.

Give me a break. Everyone has to get up for work the next morning. If you hurt the other guy it's your ass, you'll be the one who gets sued out the ass because you had to be a tough guy.


On another note someone was talking about taking low shots from the point and sticks being down. I've gotten hit in the face countless times in beer leagues because people don't watch what they're doing with their sticks. Luckily I wear a mask. In terms of high shots I don't see the difference, then again in lower beer league levels people don't shot that hard anyway, so if you're wearing protection it won't make much of a difference if you get hit.

Although one a-hole move I remember once. We had no goalie so we were all rotating in net. Most of the other team was just trying to take low wristers unless the "goalie" was down and then they'd roof it. So I was in net, and this one guy blasts a slap shot from the point. I was like what the heck, was that really necessary? No way I'm getting in front of that. Then the guy celebrates like it was an amazing goal and his teammates booed him for being an ass. More examples of guys acting like children when they play adult league hockey.


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Hockey does weird things to people. Players who are normally great people sometimes turn into jerks when they put skates on. I don't know why that is, but I'm guilty of it myself sometimes.

Maybe fighting in the NHL does affect the broader game of hockey?

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Such is the curse of "grown men" in a "barbaric" sport. The adult league I played in had a bunch of ex-pros (minor leaguers, but still), and THEY were the level-headed ones. The guys who played college hockey back when dinosaurs roamed the earth were pretty bad. Trying to relive former glory, thinking they knew anything and everything about the game. Accidentally rap a guy across the glove with your stick and get a cross-check to the face and a bunch of threats. Amazing.

The worst ones, though, are usually the pure amateurs. Guys who have no outlet for their pent-up aggression and should probably be on some major anti-depressants and in therapy (I should know, I do both). I can recall one such gentleman who was heavily involved in churches, youth groups, etc, who would get in at least two or three fights a year. Not take his gloves off, not take his helmet off (full cage), just jump a guy from behind and start wailing on his head. Never been kicked out of the league (at least, when I stopped playing), but at least ejected from the games.

Just goes to show that no matter who people are or what they do, sport brings out a totally different side in humans.

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I think part of it has to do with fighting being a generally accepted thing in hockey. So people feel that it's ok to do it. I doubt you see all this crap in basketball, soccer, football, and baseball leagues.

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if something serious goes down... you have the ability to press charges on him. you have 30 witnesses of the incident... just because one is playing hockey doesn't mean that all civil laws are thrown out the window.

if someone is taking a dirty run at you in a NON contact league and seriously hurts you... do something about it! you missing time from work because of a "bleeping" hot head is not right at all.

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Too many beer league donkey's think they're playing in the NHL.

What happened as a result of the crosscheck? Did the other team react? Your guy get booted?
A bunch of their guys went over to my player but the ref got in the middle quick. Lot of trash talking.

Our player got a major and a game for hitting from behind...there was 3 seconds left in the game though.

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Sports does weird things to people. Players who are normally great people sometimes turn into jerks when they put skates on. I don't know why that is, but I'm guilty of it myself sometimes.

Maybe fighting in the NHL does affect the broader game of hockey?
I modified your post to provide a more accurate reflection. Beer league antics are definitely not a hockey-only issue. I've seen just as bad (and fae worse) during adult league softball, basketball, soccer, and flag/touch football events. Whenever grown men compete, far too often the adrenaline and testosterone takes over and they become idiotic adolescents again living out their dreams and they don't care who they take down in that pursuit.

Nothing can ever top the 40-something idiot who got hit in the leg on one bounce by a pitch during a slow-pitch softball charity event, only to charge the mound and proceed to land two rights to the face of our 68 year old woman pitcher and breaking her nose before we could wrestle him off her.

Idiocy transcends any single sport. It's truly the universal constant.

EDIT: Yes, charges were filed against him and yes he served some time for assault. I hope he got ass-***** by large angry men during his time in the clink.

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One thing that is less common but actually works pretty well:

As a team, confront the guy. Like people mentioned the regression to adolesence is a factor. Sometimes some peer pressure works better than league discipline. If the captain/rep makes it a point that the team doesn't like/approve of the behavior, it can have a bigger effect. I don't know what it's like in your guys' leagues but a guy that's been "booted" off a team carries that rep around with him. League's and other teams hesitate to pick these guys up. A potential alternative.

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