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05-20-2008, 12:59 PM
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UFA/RFA related question to CBA

If a NHL club does not tender an offer for a contract after his entry-level contract is up, does that make him a RFA or a UFA?

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UFA.

The applicable CBA rules are in Article 10.2(a)(ii)-(v)

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(ii) In order to receive a Right of First Refusal or Draft Choice
Compensation (at the Prior Club's option) with respect to a
Restricted Free Agent, the Prior Club of a Restricted Free Agent
must tender to the Player, no later than 5:00 p.m. New York time
on the later of June 25 or the first Monday after the Entry Draft of
the final year of the Player's SPC, a "Qualifying Offer"
, which
shall be an offer of an SPC, for one League Year, which is subject
to salary arbitration if such Player is otherwise eligible for salary
arbitration in accordance with Section 12.1, on at least the
following terms and conditions:

(A) if the Player's prior year's Paragraph 1 NHL Salary is less
than or equal to $660,000 for that League Year, 110% of
the prior year's Paragraph 1 NHL Salary.

(B) if the Player's prior year's Paragraph 1 NHL Salary is
greater than $660,000, but less than $1,000,000 for that
League Year, 105% of his prior year's Paragraph 1 NHL
Salary, but in no event to exceed $1,000,000.

(C) if the Player's prior year's Paragraph 1 NHL Salary is equal
to or greater than $1,000,000 for that League year, 100% of
the prior year's Paragraph 1 NHL Salary.

(D) if a Player is eligible to receive a Two-Way Qualifying
Offer, the Paragraph 1 Minor League Salary component
shall not be less than the higher of the Player's prior year's
Paragraph 1 Minor League Salary, if any, or the minimum
Minor League salary.

A Qualifying Offer shall not be open for acceptance prior to July 1. If a
Qualifying Offer meeting the above requirements is timely made, the Prior Club shall
have a Right of First Refusal, exercisable in accordance with Section 10.3 below, or Draft
Choice Compensation, exercisable in accordance with Section 10.4 below. A Qualifying
Offer will be deemed to have met the above requirements if the Prior Club timely
provides the Player a completed copy of the notice attached as Exhibit 19 hereto, in
accordance with Exhibit 3 hereto.

(iii) A Club's Qualifying Offer must be a One-Way Qualifying Offer if
the applicable Player has: (A) actually played (excluding games
missed for injury, illness or disability) 180 or more NHL Games in
the previous three (3) NHL Seasons, (B) played at least sixty (60)
NHL Games in the previous NHL Season, and (C) not cleared
Waivers in the period between the 12th day prior to the
commencement of the previous Regular Season and the end of a
Club's previous Playing Season. For purposes hereof only, a
goaltender is deemed to have played an NHL Game when he was
dressed and on the bench as a backup. In all other cases, a
Qualifying Offer may be a Two-Way Qualifying Offer.

(iv) In the event a Prior Club fails to make a Qualifying Offer as set
forth in this Section 10.2 and fails to elect salary arbitration
pursuant to Section 12.3(a), the Player shall immediately become
an Unrestricted Free Agent
and shall be completely free to
negotiate and sign an SPC with any Club, and any Club shall be
completely free to negotiate and sign an SPC with any such Player,
without penalty or restriction or being subject to any Right of First
Refusal, Draft Choice Compensation, or any other compensation or
equalization obligation of any kind.

(v) A Qualifying Offer shall automatically expire at 5:00 p.m. New
York time on July 15
; provided, however, that the Club may by
written notice to Central Registry and the NHLPA, sent in
accordance with Exhibit 3 hereof, provided on or before 5:00 p.m.
New York time on July 15, extend the deadline for Qualifying
Offer acceptance to a date (which must be a fixed and definitive
calendar date) determined in its sole discretion.

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Excellent, thanks so much

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While we are vaguely on the subject...I've looked through the CBA for answers, but have come up short...what happens on July 15th? The qualifying offer expires and then what? Do you lose their rights? He is on your reserve list still until he turns 27 (UFA status)?

The most recent example I can think of is Oleg Saprykin from Ottawa. He was qualified so Ottawa could apparently keep his rights, but obviously was not signed and went to Russia. Does Ottawa still own his rights? Going even further back...is someone like Milan Kraft (just turned 27 this season I think) or Ross Lupaschuk (25, 26, 27?) still Penguin property...I don't recall at any point, nor can I find any evidence that they were not qualified (or any similar examples, it's the principle I'm looking for, not the players individually)...

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Originally Posted by mikey287 View Post
While we are vaguely on the subject...I've looked through the CBA for answers, but have come up short...what happens on July 15th? The qualifying offer expires and then what? Do you lose their rights? He is on your reserve list still until he turns 27 (UFA status)?

The most recent example I can think of is Oleg Saprykin from Ottawa. He was qualified so Ottawa could apparently keep his rights, but obviously was not signed and went to Russia. Does Ottawa still own his rights? Going even further back...is someone like Milan Kraft (just turned 27 this season I think) or Ross Lupaschuk (25, 26, 27?) still Penguin property...I don't recall at any point, nor can I find any evidence that they were not qualified (or any similar examples, it's the principle I'm looking for, not the players individually)...
Once a team makes an RFA a Qualifying Offer (whether it is accepted or not), the team keeps the players rights until he either signs with the team, signs an Offer Sheet with some other team (and his original team declines to match), qualifies as a Group III or Group VI UFA, or his team renounces its rights and removes him from its Reserve List.

In the case of Saprykin, if Ottawa extended a QO, then they retain his rights even if he plays in Russia, until he qualifies for UFA status at age 27. The same holds true for Kraft and Lupaschuk - if the Pens gave them a QO, they hold their rights until UFA/age 27; if they didn't, then the players became UFAs at that point.

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Thanks kdb, that was the assumption I was under, but didn't see it expressly outlined in the CBA...thanks for the clarification!

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