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02-11-2004, 08:11 PM
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NJ/STL proposal

I'll probably get screamed at for this but here it is

NJ Gets: C Pavol Demitra
4th rd pick 2004
mid level prospect


STL Gets: W Jeff Friesen
D Paul Martin
1st rd pick 2004
W Mike Rupp
4th rd pick in 2005

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02-11-2004, 08:20 PM
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The problem with this one is NJ actually needs d-man right now. [Scary moment => Brown sees more ice time]

Another overkill with the 1st round pick.

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W/ Stevens out and the Devs allowing 3-4 goals a game, the last thing they need is Demitra I think. O'Neill wouldn't be a bad addition though.

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i would say the devils overpay bigtime here

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It would be great for NJ to get Demitra, he would really help the devils get more often on the score sheet but in this case they would be giving too much because they don't have enought depht to afford this moove + it's kinda over-paying, if you take out Martin and the mid-pick it would look more fair imo... Also I don't know what's the salary of Demitra but I suppose it's around or above 6 millions and it's not the kinda moove Lou makes anyways...

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02-11-2004, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mdhockey211
I'll probably get screamed at for this but here it is

NJ Gets: C Pavol Demitra
4th rd pick 2004
mid level prospect


STL Gets: W Jeff Friesen
D Paul Martin
1st rd pick 2004
W Mike Rupp
4th rd pick in 2005
No thanks! Devils don't need a mid-level prospect and a 4th round pick in 2004. That doesn't help this team at all in the short term which is what NJ needs most currently. Big time overpayment from NJ and it doesn't address all of the Devils team needs as much as I like Demitra. He's had himself his fair share of concussions already as well.

 
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02-12-2004, 12:41 AM
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I'll probably get screamed at for this but here it is

NJ Gets: C Pavol Demitra
4th rd pick 2004
mid level prospect


STL Gets: W Jeff Friesen
D Paul Martin
1st rd pick 2004
W Mike Rupp
4th rd pick in 2005

what if we added Bryce Salvador as well?

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Done deal from my point of view.

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W/ Stevens out and the Devs allowing 3-4 goals a game, the last thing they need is Demitra I think. O'Neill wouldn't be a bad addition though.
What is the difference between O'neill and Demitra? At least Pav is producing this year and can raise the level of linemates. BTW, 6.5 is good for a 90 pt. producer and an elite forward.

Friesen is a solid top 6 forward, but nothing special. Rupp is a good cheap grinder. But I have never heard of nor seen Martin play (22 D man is about all of the info I have on him). The 1st rounder will be a very late pick.

Is this a fair trade? Only GMs could tell us. But I would like to know more about Martin, so any info from NJ fans would be appreciated.

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I'll probably get screamed at for this but here it is

NJ Gets: C Pavol Demitra
4th rd pick 2004
mid level prospect


STL Gets: W Jeff Friesen
D Paul Martin
1st rd pick 2004
W Mike Rupp
4th rd pick in 2005
you've got a deal!

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what if we added Bryce Salvador as well?
Actually, I was wanting to see if we could add Khavanov Not that we want to get rid of him or anything

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I think this trade is imabalanced in New Joisey's favor because of that 1st. Friesen would thrive as a winger for Weight. As a Blues fan, I would be all over this deal.

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I don't know anything at all about this d-man, either, but these jersey fans saying they are overpaying horribly are killing me...please

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02-13-2004, 08:45 AM
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Welcome aboard Carl... get used to it.

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I don't know anything at all about this d-man, either, but these jersey fans saying they are overpaying horribly are killing me...please
You need to learn a bit more about other teams dmen then, Martin is a top notch young defensmen that went to the youngstars game.

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Good, because Demitra is one of the best right wingers in the game, while friesen is not anywhere close to elite....this trade would never happen, as sweet lou hates the blues, but if it were, jersey would in fact, have to give something.

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Good, because Demitra is one of the best right wingers in the game, while friesen is not anywhere close to elite....this trade would never happen, as sweet lou hates the blues, but if it were, jersey would in fact, have to give something.
Friesen is a decent LW who costs 3 million less then Demitra while the blues have many money problems...not saying Friesen for Demitra is close to fair but adding Martin, Rupp and a 1st makes this trade crazy. There is noway you get both Martin and the 1st in this trade for Demitra.

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02-13-2004, 09:23 AM
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Friesen is a decent LW who costs 3 million less then Demitra while the blues have many money problems...not saying Friesen for Demitra is close to fair but adding Martin, Rupp and a 1st makes this trade crazy. There is noway you get both Martin and the 1st in this trade for Demitra.
I think Carl's main point is that Devils fans are acting as if the deal heavily favors the Devils when in fact it probably does only a little.

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that's fine with me, mac....if it was up to me, lou would have to send us a first round pick every four years for the next fifty years to make up for all we've given you, and been screwed out of by arbitrators and the garage-lords that rule the nhl...

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that's fine with me, mac....if it was up to me, lou would have to send us a first round pick every four years for the next fifty years to make up for all we've given you, and been screwed out of by arbitrators and the garage-lords that rule the nhl...
Hey. The Blues were the ones that broke the rules and tampered. Not the Devils.

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02-13-2004, 10:13 AM
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The Blues certainly did some ******** stuff in the early 90's, but I will ALWAYS question the tampering ruling because the guy who was Steven's agent at the time was dead by the time they started the investigations.

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Tampered, right...I'm sure they are the only team that has ever "tampered"....give me a break....every team in the league would owe draft picks to every other if every situation like that one was brought to life by a bitter ex-executive...you'e got to be kidding.

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