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05-29-2008, 11:17 PM
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Wild - Bolts

Blockbuster draft-day trade I wouldn't be surprised to see

To Tampa Bay:
Minnesota's 2008 1st round selection (24th overall)
Marian Gaborik
Niklas Bäckström

To Minnesota
Tampa Bay's 2008 1st round selection (1st overall)


Minnesota will have to rebuild this season after 2 consecutive first-round playoff exits. They are losing half of their defensive core (hill, carney, nummelin, Foster? injury pending) and will most likely lose some key players (Rolston, Demitra). They dump Gaborik's and Niklas Bäckström's to match Butch's offer sheet as well as sign some new free agents. Many of their younger players are ready to play at the NHL level (Reitz, Clutterbuck, Pouliot) but they will need a season to adjust. Harding is ready to take the reigns and be their granchise foaltender so Niklas Bäckström is just going to be a waste of space. Tampa Bay's first round pick will allow them to draft Stamkos, getting them that #1 center they desperately need.

Tampa Bay is instantly back in cup contention and ready to win. Gaborik brings more firepower than Richards and Prospal could ever dream of, Backstrom is a legitimate #1 goaltender who will provide rebound control combined with solid positional play. The 1st round pick is in a real nice deep draft.

I'd love to see this trade happen

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Tampa would have to add to that proposal just to get Gaborik. That package from Minny is worth Lecavalier, and unless Risebrough hasn't learned anything in the last 16 years, he wouldn't accept less.

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05-29-2008, 11:22 PM
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Oh. My. God.

This is quite possibly the worst deal I've seen.

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05-29-2008, 11:23 PM
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I think you're overrating Stamkos just a little bit here.

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A fail so epic it just might be a success

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05-29-2008, 11:29 PM
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a read a article that the entire point of drafting someone with Stamkos' potential has the biggest perk that he would cost very little at 3 mill a year max for three years. If tampa wanted a higher price forward with blazing skill they might have just kept Richards; but trading him was a money ditch as well as adding som depth to go along with adding Stamkos in the summer.

Adding Smith also helps try to take care of the goaltending issue, which is why i dont think it would make sense to get Backstrom.

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05-29-2008, 11:38 PM
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Huge overpayment by the Wild...

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05-29-2008, 11:56 PM
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Seeing as how you're selling the Minny rebuild (which I don't get seeing as how there team isn't nearly in the same shambles as your team), you'd have to drop the Minny 1st. Probably also have to add Mike Smith. Then it becomes pretty even. But that doesn't make it a good fit for either team's situation.

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Too much given up on Minnesota's side. Way too much. Or at least not enough leaving Tampa.

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Seeing as how you're selling the Minny rebuild (which I don't get seeing as how there team isn't nearly in the same shambles as your team), you'd have to drop the Minny 1st. Probably also have to add Mike Smith. Then it becomes pretty even. But that doesn't make it a good fit for either team's situation.
Haha, I really don't think that changes anything.

Gaborik >>> Stamkos
Backstrom >> Smith

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05-30-2008, 12:15 AM
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05-30-2008, 12:33 AM
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Backstrom is a ufa in a year and with Harding in the waiting, he isn't that needed in Minnesota.

I'd personally rather have an unproven Stamkos over an often injured Marian Gabroik.


Remove the minne first round pick and add a 3rd going back to Minne and i think this deal could work, in theory.

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05-30-2008, 01:37 AM
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Backstrom is a ufa in a year and with Harding in the waiting, he isn't that needed in Minnesota.

I'd personally rather have an unproven Stamkos over an often injured Marian Gabroik.


Remove the minne first round pick and add a 3rd going back to Minne and i think this deal could work, in theory.
Harding isn't in waiting. He's in development, which means, he isn't ready for #1 minutes at all.

And you rather have a unproven Stamkos over a Marian Gaborik who FINALLY stays healthy this whole season, yet we still call him injury prone? Yes, he has a history, but he's proving to be working on it and if he plays for another full year, is he considered injury prone?

And even if we did trade Gab for Stam, you think the Wild would go back into rebuidling mode after years of building from an expansion team to a Division winner? Its more likely that the Wild will trade their future for a star player rather the other way round (which they won't)

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Marian Gaborik who FINALLY stays healthy this whole season, yet we still call him injury prone? Yes, he has a history, but he's proving to be working on it and if he plays for another full year, is he considered injury prone?
He still had the hip injury that the Wild say due to "overuse."

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05-30-2008, 02:09 AM
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Here's my proposal:

To Tampa Bay: Gaborik, Backstrom,
To Minnesota: 1st overall pick, Mike Smith, Jussi Jokinen, and Paul Ranger.

Any better? Tampa Bay gets a superstar winger and a #1 goalie, while Minnesota gets the top pick, a backup goalie, a young winger and young defenseman to rebuild around.

That said, with Lemaire coming back, there is no way Minnesota rebuilds. I would argue that Tampa doesn't make this deal, but there could be a chance if they were able to re-sign Gaborik and Backstrom


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Gaborik is a top ten forward in the world...I'm pretty you don't use them to slide up ~20 spots in a draft just to get Stamkos...I mean, he's good, but he's no Crosby/Malkin/Ovechkin...

I like the idea of moving Backstrom out of Harding's way though...not sure what Tampa thinks of adding that salary, or what they think of Smith/Ramo/Helenius and where they stand in the organization...not to mention Denis, I heard good things about him

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Here's my proposal:

To Tampa Bay: Gaborik, Backstrom,
To Minnesota: 1st overall pick, Mike Smith, Jussi Jokinen, and Paul Ranger.

Any better? Tampa Bay gets a superstar winger and a #1 goalie, while Minnesota gets the top pick, a backup goalie, a young winger and young defenseman to rebuild around.

That said, with Lemaire coming back, there is no way Minnesota rebuilds. I would argue that Tampa doesn't make this deal, but there could be a chance if they were able to re-sign Gaborik and Backstrom
Would like to emphasize the 'Theres is no way minnesota rebuilds' part of this comment. Cause its true. We have no reason to rebuild as there is nothing wrong. We are on the right path

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I don't know if we are on the right path, but yeah-- there won't be any re-building.

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Gotta say, that first proposal's actually almost tempting, probably because it's overpayment from Minny's end.
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Here's my proposal:

To Tampa Bay: Gaborik, Backstrom,
To Minnesota: 1st overall pick, Mike Smith, Jussi Jokinen, and Paul Ranger.

Any better?
Hell no, that's overpayment the other way.

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05-30-2008, 07:05 AM
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Oh. My. God.

This is quite possibly the worst deal I've seen.
I agree!

Maybe the Wild would do just Gaborik for the 1st pick but then I don't think Tampa would do that because Gaborik is only under contract for next season I believe. So this would only make them a contender again for a year if Gaborik leaves because Tampa won't pay him big $$$ on a new deal which they won't.

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05-30-2008, 11:40 AM
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Harding is ready to take the reigns and be their granchise foaltender
I just really liked this mistype. It sounds like a whole new job like a "3rd generation, young horse trainer".

Take out Gaborik and its not a bad trade.

Min gets a younger star player. TB gets the goalie they're looking for and a pick.

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05-30-2008, 12:10 PM
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I just really liked this mistype. It sounds like a whole new job like a "3rd generation, young horse trainer".

Take out Gaborik and its not a bad trade.

Min gets a younger star player. TB gets the goalie they're looking for and a pick.
Take out Gaborik and it's an awful trade for TB IMO even with the upgrade TB would seemingly get in net.
Plus does this trade even make sense for the Wild? What do they have in net if they get rid of Backstrom? Harding? Has he even shown anywhere near enough to warrant being given the starting job?

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Hold on, hold on, lemme get this straight: you're valuing Steven Stamkos, who wouldn't play well in Jacques Lemaire's defensive system anyway, at Gaborik, Backstrom and 24th overall. Wow. You just slapped Craig Leopold, Doug Risebrough and every Wild fan in the world in the face with that deal, unbelievable.

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That would be a very bad deal for Minesota

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So, Tampa Bay makes that deal because it makes them "a cup contender."
Why does Minnesota do it again?
I was under the impression that the reason most teams make trades is so they can both improve.

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