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05-29-2008, 05:38 PM
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Mark Savard

While it is unlikely that the Bruins will trade Savard, I am interested in his trade value. I pose this question for four reasons:
a.) Boston has a variety of players that can line-up down the middle: Bergeron, Krejci, Kessel, Sobotka, Soderberg, Thompson, or Hamill (in a few years)
b) Savard's contract is very reasonable: 5 million until 2009/2010
c.) Boston could use a young #2 Defenceman or 1st line scoring LW/RW
d.) Boston will most likely not be a legit cup contender for 2-3 years, upon which Savard's contract is complete

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Kubina and a 3rd

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Zherdev plus 19th? Maybe Boston could move 19th for a defensemen elsewhere?

Why would Boston want to move him though? Who would replace him at center? I don't see any of the guys you listed being able to fill that void unless Bergeron can come back healthy and confident.

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Zherdev plus 19th? Maybe Boston could move 19th for a defensemen elsewhere?

Why would Boston want to move him though? Who would replace him at center? I don't see any of the guys you listed being able to fill that void unless Bergeron can come back healthy and confident.
Fortunately Boston has several options at the Center position. A healthy Bergeron is obviously the best scenario to replace Savard, however, as discussed, his health and confidence are not a guarantee. However, Boston also has Kessel, Krejci, or Soderberg that could line-up on the first two lines, if Bergeron is not healthy. They also have Sobotka, Thompson, and Metropolit (if signed) that could fill out the C position on the bottom two lines. Not to mention Hamill, who is about a year or two away from being NHL ready.


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not enough for the canucks

Edler's trade value exceeds Kubina's by a considerable margin.

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Zherdev plus 19th? Maybe Boston could move 19th for a defensemen elsewhere?

Why would Boston want to move him though? Who would replace him at center? I don't see any of the guys you listed being able to fill that void unless Bergeron can come back healthy and confident.
I don't see why the Bruins would want to move him. He's an elite playmaker with a fair contract. CapeB is in the minority of Bruins fans who want to trade Savard. The B's do have some good youth at centre but with Savard gone we'd have a a guy coming off a serious concussion and a 22 year old with 26 career points as a our top two centres.

As for the offers, while a a very serviceable defenseman Kubina has the exact same cap hit and number of years left on his deal so I'd much rather keep Savard. And although he'd be a potential starting point in a deal, Edler alone probably isn't enough. Zherdev plus the 19th is the best one so far IMO.

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I don't see why the Bruins would want to move him. He's an elite playmaker with a fair contract. CapeB is in the minority of Bruins fans who want to trade Savard. The B's do have some good youth at centre but with Savard gone we'd have a a guy coming off a serious concussion and a 22 year old with 26 career points as a our top two centers.
First and foremost, I would not trade Savard for a poor return. Moreover, I agree that there is some risk involved if the B's were to deal Savard. However, like most Bruins fans, I would entertain offers for players, particularly from a position of strength. Furthermore, while other Bruins fans have suggested that Kessel be dealt to obtain a puck-moving D, I happen to disagree.

IMO, I would deal Savard before Kessel. My rationale is based on the following:
- First, Kessel is younger and has a high ceiling
- Second, Kessel can play wing while Savard has been limited to C
- Third, both players would yield a similar return
- Fourth, Kessel can grow with Boston's youth while Savard's contract is up in 2009/10
- Fifth, dealing Savard for a young D (with a cap-friendly contract) could open up space to sign
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not enough for the canucks
And Kubina and a 3rd is enough?

Give me Edler anyday

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Marc Savard's value is pretty high.

Kubina and a 3rd?:S Please. Just Edler...

Boston just needs to make a few little tweaks to their team, not rebuild.

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Alexander Edler?
With the tragic death of Luc Bourdon, I doubt we see Edler dealt at all.

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Savard has great value to a team looking for a playmaker with good hands.He is a little smallish but i bet if he were dealt the value would be very nice.
There are 10-15 teams that would vie for his services.

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05-30-2008, 01:18 AM
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one of the best pure playmakers in hockey... You don't trade a guy like that with a salary like that. Move Bergeron (or someone else) to get him a pure sniper, instead. That'd make your team considerably better, imo.

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lol from the Sharks...Clowe, Goc, and Ehrhoff...an eerily similar proposal of the past back to haunt you. lol

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don't think you are getting the response you wanted, OP.

But I, personally, don't think it would be a good move to make...

While the B's have Center depth:

Bergeron - coming back from a nasty concussion - could return to form, but who knows, concussions are always tricky.

Kessel- while he prefers to play center, he's been much better on the Right Wing

Krejci - really came out of his shell late last season and developed some good chemistry with Sturm/Kess - but needs to show he can contribute for an entire season

Sobotka - not a high end offensive talent
Hamil - don't think he is ready yet for the Bigs
Soderberg - still has yet to come over
Marchand - should be a good 3rd liner

I just don't think the risk of trading him will do the B's more good than bad.

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05-30-2008, 09:34 AM
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Savard value is a little bit hard to size. He's an elite playmaker at a very good cap hit, but he has history of some characters problem and defensive liabilities. For character, I read that before, but don't exactly know what it's about. So, I think the best value you can get from him is keep him and find a sniper for him. Michael Ryder always pan out when Claude Julien was his coach and I don't think he will cost a lot after his last season. And if you want to play all the center you said, you can put Bergeron back on RW before trade Savard(or Savard on wing and Bergeron become the center). I think Kessel is better as a RW than as a center. He can use his speed at best.

For the proposal, the best come from Colombus, with a 1st and Zherdev. I don't think you solve a problem with that. You're better on wing, but center become a weakness.

And I want to know, is it Kubina + a pick is becoming the new Ryder, Halak and a 2nd for this summer?

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Its kinda moot point to talk about his value. The Bruins need offense and he's part of the solution.

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Pretty high. The kid produces every season and not on the greatest teams to begin with. Maybe a low A prospect and 1st rounder,thats for a team looking for an immediate impact.Looking for a #1 Center.There are teams willing to pay, thats just my opinion.

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I would offer up Sezza for Savard and Sobotka.

not sure either side would take it but I think it would be good for both teams.

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He won't be traded unless he asks to be or clearly doesn't want to resign when his contract is up.


I would trade
Franchise's top prospect
1 NHL ready 3rd or 4th liner
& 1st rd pick

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lol from the Sharks...Clowe, Goc, and Ehrhoff...an eerily similar proposal of the past back to haunt you. lol
Not like you guys have had to plan any parade routes either....

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I would offer up Sezza for Savard and Sobotka.

not sure either side would take it but I think it would be good for both teams.
I'm pretty sure the Bruins would have to jump all over that. They're both top playmakers but Spezza's younger and significantly better of a hockey player. Sobotka's a nice young prospect but he doesn't project to much more then a 3rd line 15 goal checker IMO. What's the cap hit on Spezza's new deal?

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Probably gonna get ripped for this but...


Buffalo:

Stafford
Paestch

for

Boston

Savard
Auld(I know he's a UFA but resign him and send)

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Probably gonna get ripped for this but...


Buffalo:

Stafford
Paestch

for

Boston

Savard
Auld(I know he's a UFA but resign him and send)
Want Chara too?

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