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02-13-2004, 04:20 PM
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They're dropping like flies.

It's definitely February. Since the All-Star break we've had Blake, Souray, Roenick, Primeau, Bonk, Joseph, Arvedsson and now Justin Williams all go down. Add that to the already huge number of injuries this season and this problem seems to be getting worse and worse.

Are they simply playing too many games and the wear and tear is just more debilitating than ever before is this just a lot of bad luck? (Kings fans do not need to answer that.)

First it was knees and ankles, which have markedly diminished in number since the league started paying attention to the ice. Then it was concussions and shoulder seperations al over the place then the league and many teams made adjustments to or removed the seamless glass and those injuries have decreased as well.

Is there something the league can do to reduce this rash of injuries?

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It's definitely February. Since the All-Star break we've had Blake, Souray, Roenick, Primeau, Bonk, Joseph, Arvedsson and now Justin Williams all go down. Add that to the already huge number of injuries this season and this problem seems to be getting worse and worse.

Are they simply playing too many games and the wear and tear is just more debilitating than ever before is this just a lot of bad luck? (Kings fans do not need to answer that.)

First it was knees and ankles, which have markedly diminished in number since the league started paying attention to the ice. Then it was concussions and shoulder seperations al over the place then the league and many teams made adjustments to or removed the seamless glass and those injuries have decreased as well.

Is there something the league can do to reduce this rash of injuries?
It's simple. LA and Flames injuries have slowed down and now the rest of the league are making up for their injuries.

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It's just more high profile guys are getting injured now so there's more coverage.
Either that or the hockey gods are starting to hate everyone, not just the Kings.

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Arvedson went down before the All-Star break.

But I have noticed the huge amount of injuries this year, even the week leading up to the all-star break we saw Hossa and Redden go down, albeit Redden had the flu.

JR's face has certainly seen better years.

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LA=460 man games lost, with 26 games remaining.

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On the bright side:

Matt Cooke should be back tonight.

Injuries have been more ramptant than ever this year. Probobly has something to do with bigger guys, bigger equipment, faster pucks, and still a few buildings out there that have that crappy glass.

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Oh, I should also add, basketball/hockey hybrid arenas are also to blame. Staples Center ice is terrible, and that's part of the reason of the injuries there I suspect. Whereas in Montreal, Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, and a few non-basketball American NHL cities have 'Hockey First' arenas, which have much better ice.

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Oh, I should also add, basketball/hockey hybrid arenas are also to blame. Staples Center ice is terrible, and that's part of the reason of the injuries there I suspect. Whereas in Montreal, Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, and a few non-basketball American NHL cities have 'Hockey First' arenas, which have much better ice.
Er, GM Place was home of the Vancouver Grizzlies before they moved. So it is a basketball arena too.

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Top 3 in man games lost....

LA
St.Louis
Avs

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Injuries have been more ramptant than ever this year. Probobly has something to do with bigger guys, bigger equipment, faster pucks, and still a few buildings out there that have that crappy glass.
Faster pucks meaning those damned Synergy sticks? I agree. I believe Bonk and Blake would have an opinion on those as both were hurt by shots weren't they?

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Top 3 in man games lost....

LA
St.Louis
Avs
You'd think at least one Eastern team would be in there. Weird.

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Faster pucks meaning those damned Synergy sticks? I agree. I believe Bonk and Blake would have an opinion on those as both were hurt by shots weren't they?

so was roenick

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Er, GM Place was home of the Vancouver Grizzlies before they moved. So it is a basketball arena too.
True, but now that the Grizzlies aren't there anymore the ice basically doesn't get boarded down during bb games which apparently is a good thing.

However, doesn't GM Place still have problems with their glass/boards being too hard, causing players more serious injuries?

I just took a tour of GM Place a few weeks back when I went over for the TB game and wow, that arena is just absolutely spotless; they must have a cleaning/maintenance crew working there 24/7.

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I've always wondered, what does it mean exactly when someone says "100 man games lost" or whatever, I've never understood that.

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I've always wondered, what does it mean exactly when someone says "100 man games lost" or whatever, I've never understood that.
If a team has 3 players missing a game, it's 3 man-games lost. In Los Angeles' case, if they have let's say 7 players missing a game because of injury, it's counted as 7 man-games lost.

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It's definitely February. Since the All-Star break we've had Blake, Souray, Roenick, Primeau, Bonk, Joseph, Arvedsson and now Justin Williams all go down. Add that to the already huge number of injuries this season and this problem seems to be getting worse and worse.

Are they simply playing too many games and the wear and tear is just more debilitating than ever before is this just a lot of bad luck? (Kings fans do not need to answer that.)

First it was knees and ankles, which have markedly diminished in number since the league started paying attention to the ice. Then it was concussions and shoulder seperations al over the place then the league and many teams made adjustments to or removed the seamless glass and those injuries have decreased as well.

Is there something the league can do to reduce this rash of injuries?
Yep, don't play so many games. (Not suggesting a huge drop off, just a slight shave of 5/6 games at first)

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If a team has 3 players missing a game, it's 3 man-games lost. In Los Angeles' case, if they have let's say 7 players missing a game because of injury, it's counted as 7 man-games lost.
thanks, that makes sense

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If a team has 3 players missing a game, it's 3 man-games lost. In Los Angeles' case, if they have let's say 7 players missing a game because of injury, it's counted as 7 man-games lost.
And in the Kings case, it just isn't the number of games lost, it is the quality of the missing players. We did get some good news on Straka, he might be back 2 weeks earlier than expected.

Of course, that had to be balance out by an announcement that Miller has suffered a set back. It is also being reported that Visnovsky isn't responding to treatment and may have a similar injury to what Miller has, and Miller has been out since December and it is unknown when Visnovsky will be back.

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Hey, we Wings fans know a little bit about this injury bug too...between groins and knees, and now high sticks, we've had our share too. The good news is that maybe Stumpy will be back tomorrow, Cujo's injury is only going to put him out about a week, and Hatcher is getting close too...in fact, he says if he worked hard a couple days, he could probably come back now...but the wiser heads are going to prevail and he'll be back around the first of March.

Can this season take out any more? I know, don't ask...

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If a team has 3 players missing a game, it's 3 man-games lost. In Los Angeles' case, if they have let's say 7 players missing a game because of injury, it's counted as 7 man-games lost.
LOL ... Good guess on the Kings' number of injuries per game! We are actually missing 9 players a game now.

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Add another one for the Kings:

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Barney hurt his shoulder and did not return for the Kings in the third period.
At least it isn't his back.

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Ty Conklin - broken hand

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Ty Conklin - broken hand
So much for the Salo trade rumours.

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so was roenick
And Hossa.

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Im glad the Leafs are getting healthy finally *knock on wood*

AlMo due back in a few weeks...thank god.

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