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06-01-2008, 12:34 PM
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What is Chipchuras offensive upside?

15-20 goals 40-45 points to go along with his outstanding defense?

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I'd say so, yeah. Maybe 60 points as a career high.

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06-01-2008, 12:52 PM
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Lol. 10 goals, 15 assists. Chipchura isn't very good.

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I'd say so, yeah. Maybe 60 points as a career high.
No, just no.

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Lol. 10 goals, 15 assists. Chipchura isn't very good.

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Lol. 10 goals, 15 assists. Chipchura isn't very good.
Chipchura is very good hockey player. i would say 3rd line Center with 50-55 pts/year.

Guillaume Latendresse - Kyle Chipchura - Max Pacioretty

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yup that sounds alright!

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Lol. 10 goals, 15 assists. Chipchura isn't very good.
he had 11 pts in 37 games while playing with poulos and begin

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Lol. 10 goals, 15 assists. Chipchura isn't very good.
Well, Chip has been 4-7-11 in 36 games in the big club. Over 82 games, that's 9-16-25. And all this on his first NHL season.

People forget how good Chipchura was at the beginning of the season. He was easily one of our best player along the boards and was able to show basic offensive cycling skills. And all that playing most of time with scrubs on the third or fourth line. At one point he hit a wall in December and Gainey decided to send him back in Hamilton instead, and I'm sure he would have been back had one of our center sustained any kind of injury.

I would like to see Higgins-Chipchura-Latendresse on the third line. I have a feeling these players would mesh well.

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Chipchura is very good hockey player. i would say 3rd line Center with 50-55 pts/year.

Guillaume Latendresse - Kyle Chipchura - Max Pacioretty
Yeah he's so good that he got replaced by a washed up Smolinski.

Regardless, he hasn't put up more than 40 points since his last season of Jr's. Get real.

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Yeah he's so good that he got replaced by a washed up Smolinski.

Regardless, he hasn't put up more than 40 points since his last season of Jr's. Get real.
On a team full of youth, he was replaced by Smolinski.

So? Maybe he has strict orders from the developmental staff to not be concerned with his offensive game and specifically work on his defensive game as he'll be used as a shutdown center for the Canadiens?

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On a team full of youth, he was replaced by Smolinski.

So? Maybe he has strict orders from the developmental staff to not be concerned with his offensive game and specifically work on his defensive game as he'll be used as a shutdown center for the Canadiens?
He's nowhere near gritty enough to be a shutdown center. He brings little to no intensity, doesn't finish his checks properly, and his awareness is pedestrian at best.

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He's nowhere near gritty enough to be a shutdown center. He brings little to no intensity, doesn't finish his checks properly, and his awareness is pedestrian at best.
lmao. Okay.

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He's nowhere near gritty enough to be a shutdown center. He brings little to no intensity, doesn't finish his checks properly, and his awareness is pedestrian at best.
Are you only judging by what he did with the Habs BT? Because I noticed a big difference when I got to see him play in Hamilton.

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Are you only judging by what he did with the Habs BT? Because I noticed a big difference when I got to see him play in Hamilton.
I don't know, he must be fabricating this. Chipchura is one of the smartest hockey players in our system. He's unbeatable on the boards. He makes tough plays look simple. He has good size, his skating can improve but he knows where to be and he gets there to make his play. He, obviously, has underrated offensive skills. He's an exceptional leader, he'll lay his body and heart on the ice, especially when the chips are down.

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Are you only judging by what he did with the Habs BT? Because I noticed a big difference when I got to see him play in Hamilton.
Yeah, that big difference you saw was the quality of the competition.

His acceleration is so bad that he refuses to properly finish his checks... he'll do one of the patented Smolinski butt checks so that his momentum keeps moving. This kid is not talented enough to play like that... if he wants to stay in the NHL he'll need to hit, hit, hit, screen the goalie, mix it up after the whistle, and hit some more. The guy's 6'2 205 and when push came to shove he was a wuss.

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30-40 pts.

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I don't know, he must be fabricating this. Chipchura is one of the smartest hockey players in our system. He's unbeatable on the boards. He makes tough plays look simple. He has good size, his skating can improve but he knows where to be and he gets there to make his play. He, obviously, has underrated offensive skills. He's an exceptional leader, he'll lay his body and heart on the ice, especially when the chips are down.
I'm with you on this WTK, besides his face-off's and the odd rookie mistake which is to be expected. Chipchura has impressed the hell out of me with his decision making and poise. I never really got to see him much as a junior, but seeing him in Hamilton has really increased my appreciation for this kid.

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well if it's not Habs it's Bigtimer.

I don't know why you guys even bother.

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I think he should be put on a line with Higgins and Latendresse and they'll probably bring out the best in each other.

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He wasn't drafted based on his stats, he was drafted based on his knowledge of the game & his leadership qualities, if remember correctly.

My choice was Wolski, but at the time his character was in question for being under investigation by the police because of a brawl at an under age party.

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I could see him getting 60 points.

He will automatically become one of the hardest workers on the team as soon as he is up. He will be a good tip guy and a good garbage goal guy.

I can't wait for next season when he is up.

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I won't project any point totals from him. I'll just let him pleasantly surprise the narrow-minded people that think he has 4th line upside.

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Yeah, that big difference you saw was the quality of the competition.

His acceleration is so bad that he refuses to properly finish his checks... he'll do one of the patented Smolinski butt checks so that his momentum keeps moving. This kid is not talented enough to play like that... if he wants to stay in the NHL he'll need to hit, hit, hit, screen the goalie, mix it up after the whistle, and hit some more. The guy's 6'2 205 and when push came to shove he was a wuss.
I agree that his improved play had a lot to do with the competition level being lower in the AHL.

You could be right, because now that I look back. There are only a few moments where I can picture Chips standing out while with the Habs. But that might be because he isn't a flashy player, and a lot of the things he does go unnoticed.

I just found with the increased icetime and responsibilities that Chips was given in Hamilton. His game seemed to improve and the leadship qualities that WTK mentioned in his post really stood out. He also became a lot more aggressive and did a lot of the things that you mentioned above.

So with Chips it might have been a confidence issue. Hopefully he will take the experience he gained in Hamilton, and bring it to training camp.

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30 to 40 points ,i thought chipchura played better than lapierre .

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