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02-13-2004, 06:27 PM
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''made a bizarre exit from the game last spring when he decided to quit playing for the Leafs in the middle of their first-round playoff series against Philadelphia.''

what a team player ! i think he will be a better player for the NY

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I'd be very willing to see what a healthy, well rested Corson brought to the rink - especially at the right price i.e. not a lot of $ - don't have to trade any of our youth, lose anyone off our roster

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02-13-2004, 06:38 PM
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BG already cleaned up the mess of buying out McKay, Chow, Audette and demoting NHL salaries of Dykhuis and Traverse to Hamilton...do you really think signing Corson would make sense to him after doing all of that clean up??? Plus we have old guys like Juneau and Perreault and we don't need another oldie like Corson in the line up. We need depth scoring, not another 4th liner.

Pure BS coming from Montreal radio and media once again.

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I like Begin as much as the next guy but you can't deny the fact that he does take stupid penalties. He needs to play with more discipline.
33 PIM in 32 games. That's disciplined IMO. About a penalty every other game. Considering his style, that's OK.

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02-13-2004, 06:49 PM
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More like pure B.S from Corson's agent who's trying to find a buyer and using Montreal to up the price.

Just like that SOB Hull.

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I like Begin as much as the next guy but you can't deny the fact that he does take stupid penalties. He needs to play with more discipline.
To be fair every tough guy , hard checker and gritty players take bad penalties... thats what you get when you have feisty guys...

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02-13-2004, 07:00 PM
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Are you kidding me....Begin is no more then a perfect 4th line Centre. Corson IF healthy would be the perfect third line Centre for Montreal and would be a great addition to the power play, he would position himself in front of that net and pick up some huge goals not to mention screening the goalie and making life difficult for opposing defenceman. I for one like the Idea of a HEALTHY Corson.
Your right Begin is the perfect 4th line centre and that is why we all like him, but Corson as the perfect 3rd line centre??? We have Juneau for the 3rd line, and when was the last time Corson even played centre??? He has been on the wing for years!

Like I have said before we need scoring depth to complement the top 2 lines, if we don't go out and trade for that then leave the team alone and call up the kids once in awhile.

EDIT: One other thing, when was the last time Corson scored BIG goals? Healthy or unhealthy we don't need him, his time passed him long before he walked out on the Leafs.

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02-13-2004, 07:03 PM
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EDIT: One other thing, when was the last time Corson scored BIG goals? Healthy or unhealthy we don't need him, his time passed him long before he walked out on the Leafs.
When he played for us right before team canada. He was f'king awesome. Then when he got his spot on team canada, he went downhill from there.

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02-13-2004, 07:18 PM
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When he played for us right before team canada. He was f'king awesome. Then when he got his spot on team canada, he went downhill from there.
Exactly 1998 was the year, try to tell some posters here that it was 6 years ago and that is a long time to have gone from bad to worse.

Returning to Montreal for a 3rd time???

Who are we the Leafs who always brought back Wendal Clark now too???

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Well this is one way to acquire somebody without giving up anybody. If Corson could play like he did in 98', well then I say go right ahead. He is a good leader, and can get in front of the net (which a lot of our players seem to have a hard time doing)

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02-13-2004, 07:34 PM
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I was listening to team 990 when McGuire was on and I was sort of distracted...but I really can't recall him saying BG had contacted Corson. He did say that a friend of Corson told him Corson thinks he can return.

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Well, maybe we need someone like him that can bring some leadership in the last stretch of the season. The way we've been choking in the past two game might be saying something about the lack of character in the team?

I don't think we have to worry much right now about what's happening but eventually, maybe Corson could be useful if he comes up cheap..
How about the three games before those two. Three wins. How come we weren't missing leadership then ?

We're not gonna win every single game, it's normal that we lose some, give the tea, a break for christ sake

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02-13-2004, 07:44 PM
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How about the three games before those two. Three wins. How come we weren't missing leadership then ?
The wins against chicago and pittsburgh were awful.

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Corson was always one of my favs. I will not turn my back on him like most people are doing now. Corson has played some great hockey for us in the past. NO I do not think the Habs will get him (again), but please stop saying that players like Juneau & Begin are more valuable to our team. :mad:

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"Corson was always one of my favs. I will not turn my back on him like most people are doing now. Corson has played some great hockey for us in the past. NO I do not think the Habs will get him (again), but please stop saying that players like Juneau & Begin are more valuable to our team. "
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Totally agree Zednick, Corson and Chelios were always my favorite habs too. Corson was never an idiot with the habs like he was in TO, he would play his heart out for us against Ottawa and TO when we play them, he would give us grit and heart. Juneau does not give us that. Juneau gives us smarts and effort. I think Juneau with Corson and Sunny would be a very good line.

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Corson was always one of my favs. I will not turn my back on him like most people are doing now. Corson has played some great hockey for us in the past. NO I do not think the Habs will get him (again), but please stop saying that players like Juneau & Begin are more valuable to our team. :mad:

They are. Juneau is our best PKer imo. Begin our best hitter.

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Shayne is older, yes, but I think he can replace Juneau in a heartbeat, AND he can bring some much needed desire to our team. He would play his heart out for us and it would set an example for our players. There are only 20-30 games left in the season so he would have lots in the tank this year, provided he stays healthy.

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Guys think of this, There is a good posibilety that the habs and leafs are going to face each other in the playoff's. Im not saying that its going to happen but you never know. Now we all now what Corson did to the leafs last year and what the leafs think of him. Could you imagine if the we had to play the leafs in the first round and corson was in our line-up. Im sure corson is going to want to prouve something to his old team. I can just see this right now. Im not sure if I want corson back but hell add something that we desperately need in grit. I wouldent mind him just for the end of this year. As we now players like perrault,juneau,dackell,kilger,quintal are probably in theire last stint with the team so if corson would sign back it would only be for one year. I would rather have corson in the line-up than Dagenais.

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Guys think of this, There is a good posibilety that the habs and leafs are going to face each other in the playoff's. Im not saying that its going to happen but you never know. Now we all now what Corson did to the leafs last year and what the leafs think of him. Could you imagine if the we had to play the leafs in the first round and corson was in our line-up. Im sure corson is going to want to prouve something to his old team. I can just see this right now. Im not sure if I want corson back but hell add something that we desperately need in grit. I wouldent mind him just for the end of this year. As we now players like perrault,juneau,dackell,kilger,quintal are probably in theire last stint with the team so if corson would sign back it would only be for one year. I would rather have corson in the line-up than Dagenais.
That's a good point. If Corson is healthy and has the desire, he could be a good addition for the playoffs. Playing against the Leafs or Flyers, I would want someone like a healthy, hungry Corson more than Windmill Dagenais.

Gainey has won with veterans in Dallas. Of course everyone remembers the McKays and Audettes. But when Dallas was winning, they had veterans. Guys like Muller, Carbonneau, Skrudland -- guys who had been cast off from other teams for being past their prime.

I am not saying that Corson is a Carbonneau. But if Gainey thinks he might have a similar effect, then I trust him and hope for the best.

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02-13-2004, 11:01 PM
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It is time for some of the Corson supporters here to step out of 1998 and into 2004!


How can you really think he will be more valable than players like Begin and Juneau? Plus what makes you think he can take the beating infront of the net and score goals???

These are his stats from the 1997-98 season (Olympic year), note the steady decline:

1997-98 Montreal Canadiens NHL 62 21 34 55 108
1998-99 Montreal Canadiens NHL 63 12 20 32 147
1999-00 Montreal Canadiens NHL 70 8 20 28 115
2000-01 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 77 8 18 26 189
2001-02 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 74 12 21 33 120
2002-03 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 46 7 8 15 49

His best years in the past 5 years after the Olympics is anywhere from 8 - 12 goals and he sits out a full year and can become our saviour?

Sometimes posters here really make you scratch your head and say what the F@%k???

Shayne was good prior to to the Olympics, but after no. Hell my favorite player is Mats Naslund. Do I think he is the 1st line winger that Ryder and Koivu need because of his past dominace with the Habs, no because I live in a world with reality and it's not make believe.

Sorry to be harsh but I think some people here really need it to be put to them straight.

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It is time for some of the Corson supporters here to step out of 1998 and into 2004!


How can you really think he will be more valable than players like Begin and Juneau? Plus what makes you think he can take the beating infront of the net and score goals???

These are his stats from the 1997-98 season (Olympic year), note the steady decline:

1997-98 Montreal Canadiens NHL 62 21 34 55 108
1998-99 Montreal Canadiens NHL 63 12 20 32 147
1999-00 Montreal Canadiens NHL 70 8 20 28 115
2000-01 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 77 8 18 26 189
2001-02 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 74 12 21 33 120
2002-03 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 46 7 8 15 49

His best years in the past 5 years after the Olympics is anywhere from 8 - 12 goals and he sits out a full year and can become our saviour?

Sometimes posters here really make you scratch your head and say what the F@%k???

Shayne was good prior to to the Olympics, but after no. Hell my favorite player is Mats Naslund. Do I think he is the 1st line winger that Ryder and Koivu need because of his past dominace with the Habs, no because I live in a world with reality and it's not make believe.

Sorry to be harsh but I think some people here really need it to be put to them straight.
Thanks for enlightening us. But no one's calling him a saviour, and no one expects him to score 20 goals. He would have a very specific role. He would be a playoff pest, someone who brings experience to the 3rd or 4th lines.

The team is still soft, and it has to get bigger and more aggressive if it wants to compete in the East. If Corson can play like he played against Yashin two years ago, then the Habs would be lucky to have him for a playoff run.

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Thanks for enlightening us. But no one's calling him a saviour, and no one expects him to score 20 goals. He would have a very specific role. He would be a playoff pest, someone who brings experience to the 3rd or 4th lines.

The team is still soft, and it has to get bigger and more aggressive if it wants to compete in the East. If Corson can play like he played against Yashin two years ago, then the Habs would be lucky to have him for a playoff run.
Or maybe we could be lucky enough to sign him, go into the playoffs and he could have a performance for us like he did last year for the Leafs in the playoffs..walk away from his teammates because he is too selfish to be a team player.
You say he isn't a saviour, but your description totally has him looking like one doesn't it? By stating that if he can play like he did two years ago that we could have a good playoff run makes him a saviour doesn't it, because with out Corson (the Corson of Christmas Past) we won't do well in the playoffs.
I guess if McKay played like he did two or more years ago he would have never been bought out either.

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Or maybe we could be lucky enough to sign him, go into the playoffs and he could have a performance for us like he did last year for the Leafs in the playoffs..walk away from his teammates because he is too selfish to be a team player.
You say he isn't a saviour, but your description totally has him looking like one doesn't it? By stating that if he can play like he did two years ago that we could have a good playoff run makes him a saviour doesn't it, because with out Corson (the Corson of Christmas Past) we won't do well in the playoffs.
I guess if McKay played like he did two or more years ago he would have never been bought out either.
I never suggested he was a saviour. These are your words. Some people are simply suggesting that a healthy, effective Corson could help the team in the playoffs. He could maybe fill a small but important role.

I don't see your point about McKay. He didn't work out for the Habs. But Steve Thomas worked out for the Ducks last year. He wasn't their saviour but he added a missing ingredient.

Gainey added a lot of veterans when he was in Dallas, and many of these were thought to be washed up. But he knew better. If Gainey seriously talked to Corson, I would at least keep an open mind.

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By the look of things, i assume it's fair to say that BG really does feel we need a third line center that's big though and defensively aware. Based on that, we can almost be certain of one possible trade idea BG had : Perreault for Conroy..both are ufa at the end of the season and the flames could want a faceoff specialist....contracts are a none factor.... Of course, Calgary wants more than that for Conroy...my question is which prospect would you be willing to add, if any, to get the deal done ?

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Are you guys serious? Shayne Corson?

He quit Toronto because he had been a healthy scratch for a long time before that and had no hope of playing in the playoffs. I loved Corson when he was here, but he is way past his prime. There's no way he can play 3rd line anymore.

I don't see the point of bringing in a guy like Corson. These playoffs are going to be about getting some experience for our young guys, and I don't want some has-been taking a spot away from someone who is actually going to be with us 3 years down the road.

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