To Toronto: '08 1st rounder (3rd overall)
To Atlanta: Kubina and '09 1st Rounder
I read that Atlanta was willing to trade there pick if what they get back includes a decent defensemen. Toronto wants to blow up their team and get rid of some cap and recieve some picks.
It is a good deal for us considering we don't know where we are going to pick in the 09 draft...
BUT, the 2009 draft features franchise players in the top 10 of the draft. And I am willing to bet we are going to have another pick in the top 7, and a good shot at the top 5 if MLSE wants a youth movement in Toronto.
To Toronto: '08 1st rounder (3rd overall)
To Atlanta: Kubina and '09 1st Rounder
I read that Atlanta was willing to trade there pick if what they get back includes a decent defensemen. Toronto wants to blow up their team and get rid of some cap and recieve some picks.
revisions? thoughts?
stupid move for toronto ...Kubina should be for an extra pick, not to move up a few spots
stupid move for toronto ...Kubina should be for an extra pick, not to move up a few spots
It's for the 2009 pick. Essentially Kubina for a guaranteed 3rd overall pick, franchise player.
Plus our 2009 won't be too high cause we're trading away Kubina in this deal. (Meaning probably TOP10, but we'll also probably have a real NHL coach)
This trade will either work out great or bite us in the ass. I think it'll bite us in the ass (Like the Luongo/Niedermayer ones IIRC) cause we're the Leafs and nothing good happens to us.
Yeah at this point I don't think Toronto is in a position to "go big" in terms of going all out for a top prospect and thus having no supporting cast around him.
Build a strong foundation in this draft with the 7th overall, and like others suggested grabbing another late pick would be a better option I'd think (at this point).
A top 10 pick in next year's draft is like having a top 20 pick in this draft. Therefore no way.
You have that mixed up, dude.
It's like a top 5 pick in this years draft is more like a top 10-15 pick in the 2009 draft. But in terms of depth, the 2008 draft wins by a longshot. After the top 10 of the 09 draft, the talent level REALLY drops off.
Considering that the Leafs are trying to make the GM job as marketable as possible (possibly for Burke) they don't make this deal leaving the new GM without a 1st rounder in his first year
People here are total Pessimists, it seems. This leafs team is not a lottery team. Not even close.
The rough start and Paul Maurice's questionable coaching killed the Maple Leafs this year. By late November the team went into a "**** it" mode.
With a semi-competent coach the leafs will be no lower than 12th pick next year. And thats to keep you pessimists happy. I'm not saying the Leafs are cup contenders but I do believe with some slight reworking done (which still kinda counts as rebuilding, I'm refering to trimming the fat, aka Blake/Tucker/Raycroft..), this team very well could get into the playoffs next year.
So I see this as what do I want more? Bogosian, and chance at Pieterangelo or Schenn, or the very same chance, Kubina, and a higher mid-1st?
I take this trade in a heartbeat. You might think differently, but this move makes more sense in terms of rebuilding than not taking it IMO.
I take this trade in a heartbeat. You might think differently, but this move makes more sense in terms of rebuilding than not taking it IMO.
I'm thinking about it and either way I'm fine. If you think Filatov is the type of player you can build your team around have as the cornerstone then sure.
Kubina and our 2009 1st rounder for Filatov. Sure we may not have a TOP10 pick next year but we've got a prospect that surely would be. I don't think our pick next year will be better then Filatov.
If we do the deal, we'd already have a nucleus of prospects to build with. Filatov, Hodgson, Kulemin, Tlusty, Stralman, and Pogge. We could start development part of rebuilding.
I'm thinking about it and either way I'm fine. If you think Filatov is the type of player you can build your team around have as the cornerstone then sure.
Kubina and our 2009 1st rounder for Filatov. Sure we may not have a TOP10 pick next year but we've got a prospect that surely would be. I don't think our pick next year will be better then Filatov.
If we do the deal, we'd already have a nucleus of prospects to build with. Filatov, Hodgson, Kulemin, Tlusty, Stralman, and Pogge. We could start development part of rebuilding.
exactly the more prospects with potential the Leafs can rake in the better
