hey guys, i'm new to the boards but i thought i'd bring an interesting stat to your attention. including the flyer game last night, the rangers are now 5-11 when allowing less than 25 shots in a game. now, don't worry, i'm not suggesting that defense isn't our problem. i'm saying that a stat like that indicates that motivation of the players is the larger problem, rather than the actual defensive ability of those players. either they are inconsistent with their offense (which i think is clear) or they do a great job keeping the puck away from their net for 55 out of 60 minutes, but when they do give up chances they are major breakdowns. this shows to me a lack of discipline, which doesn't mean we necessarily need new players, we need a coach who can get them to play, something sather never had to do in his "glory" days. just a tidbit, fire away.