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Could O'Byrne get an offer sheet?

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06-08-2008, 09:47 AM
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Could O'Byrne get an offer sheet?

What are the odds O'Byrne gets a low to midrange offer sheet?

I'm one of the people that thinks this will be the breakout year for offer sheets. Some in hockey have talked about lesser knowns getting offers. O'Byrne is one of those lesser known types.

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06-08-2008, 09:52 AM
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He could but why wouldn't the habs match?

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06-08-2008, 10:24 AM
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The only offer sheets offered in the last few year have been to players on teams close to the cap or internal caps and Ryan Kesler. The habs are not in the first category and don't have a GM like Clarke who does something different just to say he tried something.

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06-08-2008, 10:26 AM
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That would be weird.

Less than two millions, the Habs match... and if someone give them a first round pick in 2009 they will ask the league to not even wait a week.

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Every RFA can get one, but I doubt he'll recieve one.

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He could but why wouldn't the habs match?
I think a lot depends on this years dollars to compensation levels. And a teams cap space. For some teams (Maybe not Montreal) A 2.5 million cap hit where they were planning on 1 mil could hurt.

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That would be weird.

Less than two millions, the Habs match... and if someone give them a first round pick in 2009 they will ask the league to not even wait a week.
Pretty much...especially with the 2009 draft in MTL.

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I sure hope so! Someone toss him a 2.5 mil offer!

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They'll let O'byrne go for the right compensation. We have tons of D-men prospect (Carle, Emelin, Tank and some guys more dow nthe road like Weber, Subban, Fischer, McDonagh). A first-rounder in 09 is very doubtful as compensation, but I'll take that pick any day.

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They'll let O'byrne go for the right compensation. We have tons of D-men prospect (Carle, Emelin, Tank and some guys more dow nthe road like Weber, Subban, Fischer, McDonagh). A first-rounder in 09 is very doubtful as compensation, but I'll take that pick any day.

I expect 2.5 mil will be a 2nd in 09. I'm just figuring a reflection of the Average salary increase, will drop the compensation?

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One Hab who is I think is guaranteed to get an RFA offer is Halak. The offer would have to be pretty dramatic, but if your a team looking for a solid young goaltender why not do it?

How about a 4 year deal at an average of 3.25M per season? Isn't there a chance the Kings, Lightning, Blues or Sens could make such an offer? The compensation would be a 1st and 3rd rounder.

As or O'Byrne...meh.

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One Hab who is I think is guaranteed to get an RFA offer is Halak. The offer would have to be pretty dramatic, but if your a team looking for a solid young goaltender why not do it?

How about a 4 year deal at an average of 3.25M per season? Isn't there a chance the Kings, Lightning, Blues or Sens could make such an offer? The compensation would be a 1st and 3rd rounder.

As or O'Byrne...meh.
No team is giving a 1st for Halak or paying him that amount of money.

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I would expect most of the Habs' RFAs will get signed before free agency opens up. I don't think there's likely much motivation for any of the sides to delay in most of those cases.

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One Hab who is I think is guaranteed to get an RFA offer is Halak. The offer would have to be pretty dramatic, but if your a team looking for a solid young goaltender why not do it?

How about a 4 year deal at an average of 3.25M per season? Isn't there a chance the Kings, Lightning, Blues or Sens could make such an offer? The compensation would be a 1st and 3rd rounder.

As or O'Byrne...meh.

No chance we make an offer as we already have Smith, Ramo and Helenius as well as many other (admittedly less talented) goalies in the system we need forwards...

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Who would be dumb enough to pay 3.25 Mil per season a goaltender who played a huge total of 22 games in the NHL?

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Who would be dumb enough to pay 3.25 Mil per season a goaltender who played a huge total of 22 games in the NHL?
Minnesota offered Backstrom 3.1 million without ever playing an NHL game

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Who would be dumb enough to pay 3.25 Mil per season a goaltender who played a huge total of 22 games in the NHL?
Plus knowing they have to give up a 1 and 3 pick...not going to happen

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Minnesota offered Backstrom 3.1 million without ever playing an NHL game
Backstrom got 3.1 million AFTER his first half-season (where he led the NHL in GAA) in the league.

His first NHL contract was very reasonable.

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I doubt O'Bryne gets one. If Montreal doesn't sign Andrei Kostitsyn before the deadline, he'll be a possibility, but that also depends on other team's RFAs too. If Jeff Carter is still one, I'd rather lose firsts for him, than Kostitsyn, unless it's 3, or 4, then screw that.

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I doubt O'Bryne gets one. If Montreal doesn't sign Andrei Kostitsyn before the deadline, he'll be a possibility, but that also depends on other team's RFAs too. If Jeff Carter is still one, I'd rather lose firsts for him, than Kostitsyn, unless it's 3, or 4, then screw that.
He still has to sign it.. why would he leave his brother for slightly more $?

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When a lady whose purse gets stolen offers to settle out of court, does that count as an offer sheet?

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I could see him getting an offer sheet where it was so low that it doesn't require compensation.

But I don't think he would sign it.

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I think a lot depends on this years dollars to compensation levels. And a teams cap space. For some teams (Maybe not Montreal) A 2.5 million cap hit where they were planning on 1 mil could hurt.

This may sound far fetched, but the NHL scouting department has two levels now for prospects. Yes, their are scouts that scout just players waiting to be drafted, but there are also scouts that scout the NHL for trade, UFA, RFA, what have you.
Now, the scouts that scout the NHL have expanded their job, and are more focused on NHL talent, meaning that if your team can't draft, or is comfertable giving up draft picks for an established player, they are all fair game. Giving a RFA and offer sheet is a gamble, but teams have nothing to lose but draft picks. If the team can't develop their own talent they can always 'mooch' off another team with young talent that is against the cap. Montreal is not against the cap. But, if a team wants O'Byrne enough they can offer him 3 million and likely get him.

It all comes down to the balance of how much a team is willing to spend on a young player, and how much another team offers.

My team, the Wings, take Filppula. If someone offered him 4 million and he signed it, the Wings would likely take the picks. If they offered him 3 million and he signed it, they would likely match.


For O'Bryne, if a team got him signed for 2.5, Montreal just might let him go, unless they seem as an important part of the future.

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For me o'byrne is a 3rd line pairing on the d-line and I don't see why a team would cough up a comp pick like a first rounder for him--based upon the money mentioned in this thread

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2.5m for o'byrne? At least he won't need to steal lady's purses anymore.

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