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06-08-2008, 08:03 PM
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Pacioretty ---> Morrow??

I would like to know what's your opinion about Max Pac and Brendan Morrow similitudes. I saw Max Pac 2-3 times this years and his style is very similar to Morrow's one. Both guys crash, bang and have a dirty nose to the net. The typical power forward. Both are LW and Max Pac is a bigger. So can we expect him to play that kind of game? I dont want MTL to rush that kid but I hope to see him sooner than later. We really need that kind of player because we missed it during the playoffs. So, for the guys who saw Max Pac much more than me, am I right?


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Max Pacioretty = Erik Cole?

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Max Pac seems to be more physical that Cole. He's not afraid to fight and seems to hit harder. Cole is big and go to net but is not physical as Morrow. That's why I think Max Pac looks like more to become Morrow v 2.0 than another Cole.

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I'll wait till i see Max Pac actually skate with the Habs before i make up my mind.

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Max Pacioretty = Erik Cole?
Max Pacioretty = Max Pacioretty?! :O!

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Max Pacioretty = Max Pacioretty?! :O!
Bingo....

i don't understand the obsession with comparing prospects to established players...

No two players ever end up exactly alike....

While they may have similar games and styles... each will develop some unique traits and different strengths/weaknesses in their game.

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06-08-2008, 09:13 PM
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Bingo....

i don't understand the obsession with comparing prospects to established players...

No two players ever end up exactly alike....

While they may have similar games and styles... each will develop some unique traits and different strengths/weaknesses in their game.
I know but it's always good to know if what we saw from a guy during 2-3 games is representative about what kind of player he could develop.

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06-08-2008, 09:16 PM
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Bingo....

i don't understand the obsession with comparing prospects to established players...

No two players ever end up exactly alike....

While they may have similar games and styles... each will develop some unique traits and different strengths/weaknesses in their game.
Maybe because it gives those who have never seen these prospects play any idea what to expect. I see no harm in that. Anybody with half a brain knows the comparison is nothing more than a potential mold projection. It's better than not knowing anything. The problem is those who run with it and say Prospect X is the next Player X and expect nothing less. I guess, in other words, I like comparisons as a tool to describe potential expectations of a player's style but nothing more.

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As well, how the heck are YOU going to rush the kid? Are YOU in charge of his development?

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As well, how the heck are YOU going to rush the kid? Are YOU in charge of his development?
Hey relax! A mistake can happen especially when English is not your first language!

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And the constant...We....???

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And the constant...We....???
It never happened to you to forget a f&?%$/" word in a sentence?!?
I wanted to know something about Max Pac that's it that's all. So if you dont have anything so say about the topic....

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Bingo....

i don't understand the obsession with comparing prospects to established players...

No two players ever end up exactly alike....

While they may have similar games and styles... each will develop some unique traits and different strengths/weaknesses in their game.
I think it's a reference point. To me Pacioretty = Pacioretty dosent mean much. But when someone compares him to a player I know then....I can get an idea of what to expect.

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I think it's a reference point. To me Pacioretty = Pacioretty dosent mean much. But when someone compares him to a player I know then....I can get an idea of what to expect.
I agree. I don't like it when people get all defensive when you compare a prospect to an NHLer, it just gives people an idea on how to gauge talent.

Some freaked out when I said Aaron Ness was similar to Phil Housley. Both are small, offensive minded defencemen from Minnesota and drafted out of High School. There's clearly no similarities there, right?

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Comparaisons are good, and it doesn't hurt, because as soon as the player play in the NHL he builds himself a reputation and the similiraties dont last. Do you hear Crosby being compared to Gretzky a lot since the begining of this season? We dont even hear about it anymore.

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I think it's a reference point. To me Pacioretty = Pacioretty dosent mean much. But when someone compares him to a player I know then....I can get an idea of what to expect.
Expect absolutely nothing people say about him unless they have some form of credibility on either prospects or minor hockey from where the player is from.

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That would be a dream come true. But not expecting it any time soon.

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Max Pac seems to be more physical that Cole. He's not afraid to fight and seems to hit harder. Cole is big and go to net but is not physical as Morrow. That's why I think Max Pac looks like more to become Morrow v 2.0 than another Cole.
Has Patches ever even been in a fight? He's not exactly playing in a league that's known for it's fighting.

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Listen. Max Pac has Ryan Smith's STYLE of play, nothing more nothing less, he is his own bird, and will fly the way he wants. He could be the best 3rd liner out there, or he could flourish to a big powerforward like rick nash. Let the kid develop hes not even in the AHL yet.

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Has Patches ever even been in a fight? He's not exactly playing in a league that's known for it's fighting.


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It remains to be seen how his offensive game will translate and if he'll be as opportunistic.

Rest of his game is fine with any comparisons anybody wish to make.

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I think it's a reference point. To me Pacioretty = Pacioretty dosent mean much. But when someone compares him to a player I know then....I can get an idea of what to expect.
I rarely ever compare prospects to nhlers, for me it's just too hard or too vague to do. But I can understand what your saying, as I see them all play so I don't need a comparison and if I don't see them play then if I could get an idea of how they play it certainly helps. Then again it's hard for me cause I rarely watch any nhl games outside of the Habs and I'm usually just focused on our players.

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Has Patches ever even been in a fight? He's not exactly playing in a league that's known for it's fighting.
He's had 1 fight in the NCAA, not sure if he fought in the USHL at all.

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I think it's a reference point. To me Pacioretty = Pacioretty dosent mean much. But when someone compares him to a player I know then....I can get an idea of what to expect.
What's wrong with power forward with 1st line upside? Player comparisons tend to make posters here put their foot in their mouth, luckily that hasn't happened with MaxPac.

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Maxpac = Bill Guerin

Hes not a pure grinder, hes more about the shots, the speed. Ryan Smyth, not quite, not at all even, I just don't see it. Not Morrow either. Not Erik Cole, Cole is all about the charging the net, Max plays a more cerebral game.

Max will get in front of the net but it's not the bread and butter of his game. He likes to use his speed and shoot it from a distance since he got very good wrist and slap shots and he love to "punish" with his big body while mixing it up a bit. To me, Guerin is by far the best comparable. Tkachuk wouldn't be too bad either.

Hes not the grinder some are dreaming he is, hes just way to offensively gifted to play that kind of game.

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