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02-15-2004, 02:21 PM
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Curious: Which teams play the trap?

I'm wondering which teams play "the trap" constantly as a means to win? I'm not talking about teams that use it when up a goal with 5 minutes left, I'm talking about teams that live and die by it.

The reason I'm asking is I want to get a good veiw on which teams will be effected with the coming rule changes, who relies on their goalie and doesn't have the skill level to change their game etc.

Not trying to start a flaming war, so lets please not. Simply legitamite hockey research. So who does?

The obvious:

New Jersey Devils
Minnesota Wild
Calgary Flames
Anaheim Mightly Ducks

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I would argue the Sens although I know I'm certain to get a few arguments with that one. They sit back and playoff off of turnovers all game.

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Every team traps, because it is the single most useful tool in protecting a third period lead.

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Perhaps you should be asking which teams don't play the trap? You might get a shorter list.

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I would argue the Sens although I know I'm certain to get a few arguments with that one. They sit back and playoff off of turnovers all game.
Ottawa forechecks with 2 men, except when making a line change. Ottawa also pinches their defense FAR more than any other team in the league. They play the trap when forechecking is pointless, such as off a line change, or a near icing. But they don't sit back and rely on the trap to win, and they don't lead the league in scoring because we trap....

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Detroit certainly traps..
Left wing lock = Trap...
They're just also deadly offensively...

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Perhaps you should be asking which teams don't play the trap? You might get a shorter list.
Tampa doesn't really trap. They will take their foot off of the opponent's throat when they're in the lead by 2-ish goals, but they don't practice/play the trap well enough for it to work most of the time and the other team often has ample chance to come back.

Edit: I didn't read the first post. Someone give me a slap on the wrist.

Tampa doesn't play the trap, then.


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Every team traps, because it is the single most useful tool in protecting a third period lead.
Read the first thread before replying.

I think LA has come to play a trapping system. Their coach has said that they try to win every game 2-1.

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i've seen Philly line up a 1-3-1 on numerous occasions

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i've seen Philly line up a 1-3-1 on numerous occasions
Calgary plays that too.

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I thought 1-3-1 was just a wierd and useless zone defense in basketball...

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I'm wondering which teams play "the trap" constantly as a means to win? I'm not talking about teams that use it when up a goal with 5 minutes left, I'm talking about teams that live and die by it.

The reason I'm asking is I want to get a good veiw on which teams will be effected with the coming rule changes, who relies on their goalie and doesn't have the skill level to change their game etc.

Not trying to start a flaming war, so lets please not. Simply legitamite hockey research. So who does?

The obvious:

New Jersey Devils
Minnesota Wild
Calgary Flames
Anaheim Mightly Ducks
For the last time, the Flames DO NOT play the trap. Their defensive scheme is based around pressured turnovers in the offensive and defensive zone (not the neutral zone), usually by utilizing their speed to forecheck.

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Read the first thread before replying.

I think LA has come to play a trapping system. Their coach has said that they try to win every game 2-1.
The Kings try to win every game 3-2. And it's because of injuries, not a defensive system

 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the 1-3-1 system have only 1 defenseman back?

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the 1-3-1 system have only 1 defenseman back?
1 forechecker, 3 in neutral zone, 1 defenseman back.

That or 1-2-2...

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Carolina clearly plays the trap.

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Read the first thread before replying.

I think LA has come to play a trapping system. Their coach has said that they try to win every game 2-1.
I've heard it several times before, that the Kings play the exact same system that Vancouver does. Klatt was mentioning how easy it was to get adjusted cause the systems are essentially the same, only small tweaks here and there.

If LA plays the trap, then Vancouver traps.

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I'm wondering which teams play "the trap" constantly as a means to win? I'm not talking about teams that use it when up a goal with 5 minutes left, I'm talking about teams that live and die by it.

The reason I'm asking is I want to get a good veiw on which teams will be effected with the coming rule changes, who relies on their goalie and doesn't have the skill level to change their game etc.

Not trying to start a flaming war, so lets please not. Simply legitamite hockey research. So who does?

The obvious:

New Jersey Devils
Minnesota Wild
Calgary Flames
Anaheim Mightly Ducks
calgary plays a hard forechecking system. They trap only late in games just like everybody else. Just being low scoring against doesnt mean the team plays the trap. Look at ottawa - highest scoring team, probably most exciting but they play the trap more than calgary.

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Trap Teams

New Jersey
Ottawa
Philly
Pittsburgh
Montreal
Carolina
Detroit
Nashville
Minny
Anaheim

These teams all play some sort of offense stunting zone defense

If you look at some of the teams they score more than non trapping teams so you tell me if its "boring hockey"

I personally find the Devils game to be art on ice

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Everybody traps.

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I think Calgary plays more of a 1-2-2 personally, the LW tends to forecheck, so I guess you could call it a type of RW lock.

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Flames typically have 2 forwards deep in the offensive zone constantly pressuring the puck with the last forward in high slot area...Not a typical trap as they do not wait out for you in the neutral zone...I find it quite amusing how everyone presumes that they are a hardcore trapping team though, maybe the canuck fans that commented on them need to actually watch them more often to make an informed post.

I think all teams trap to a degree, but Calgary certainly does not play a full out neutral zone trap, its a constant pressure forecheck most of the time.

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There was a Darryl Sutter quote floating around a couple months ago along the lines of "27 teams play 26 varieties of the trap". Cryptic indeed.

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Nice avatar, icarus! I'm a big fan of Tomcats!

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Why do people get so offended when their team gets called on playing the trap?People act like someone said they were helping the Taliban or the team was a bunch of molesters.

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