IMO the Rangers need to get bigger at forward but Ryan Callahan is not the problem. Callahan plays bigger than he is. He's a versatile energy player--hits, kills penalties, can pop in the odd goal and still has some untapped offensive potential. His early knee injury hurt his season and I think we can expect more out of him in the future--he's still very young. I'd project him into the 15-20 goal per range--maybe 30-35 pts. when he hits his stride which may not be as far away as next season.
id be very interested to see what cally can do with gomez.
To add to your point, if Callahan continues to develop he is at the very least a nice third line player with energy and some offense.
Personally, I don't see him as a second liner, but I think he could be a heck of a third line addition.
also, cally was brought back up on feb 2nd after his demotion, with his first game on feb 3rd.
from then till our last game against the pens he played in 38 games, he had 9 goals, 7 assists for 16 points. extrapolate that to 82 games and you get 19 goals, 15 assists for 34 points.
That is the level of production i am expecting from the kid, and i think hes got even more of that in him as he gets his feet wet.
i think hes got the capablity to be a consistent 20-25 goal scorer, chipping in 40-45 points. especially if he gets more playing time. i mean, he only averaged 12:22 per game, only 15 seconds of which came on the PP in an average game. He played well after he came back. im expecting him to be even better.
To add to your point, if Callahan continues to develop he is at the very least a nice third line player with energy and some offense.
Personally, I don't see him as a second liner, but I think he could be a heck of a third line addition.
I like Cally a lot... I say we shouldn't be so quick to move a guy like him... although some people have him out the door to move up two draft slots. Don't get me wrong... an impact players becomes available, and I'd certainly be willing to include him... but he's not a guy you deal on draft day to move from 20 to 17.
Btw... EDGE... any idea how the Rangers feel about Beach? .. or any other players they might be keen on?
I see that Blake Wheeler is available. What do you guys think of him?
I liked him in the 2004 draft (just not where PHX took him.) It's an opportunity to add young talent, so I'm for trying to sign him. Maybe we see Wheeler develop as Umberger did. We certainly can use that kind of size in the organization.
To add to your point, if Callahan continues to develop he is at the very least a nice third line player with energy and some offense.
Personally, I don't see him as a second liner, but I think he could be a heck of a third line addition.
I think some people got way overexcited about his AHL rookie campaign and started hyping him as a legit top 6 winger. I think the problem is just that he's not a natural goal scorer and that makes it much, much harder to score a lot of goals at the NHL level.
I agree he seems like he could be a very good 3rd line player, and he really has all the tools for that. Fast, plays good defense, gritty and disrupts the other team by forechecking tenaciously, and he can actually score some as well. I just don't see a 30 goal, 60 point top six forward in him at the NHL level. But that's fine...teams need quality 3rd line players as well.
Also, I'm not seeing why Gomez should be put with a player like Callahan, exactly. What's you peoples reasoning for that one? He's not a sniper that will take best advantage of Gomezs' passing...he'll crash the net and score some goals that way, but you don't need Gomez to set that kind of stuff up
What the chances of Petrov being at #20 and do we take a flyer on him?
Hes signed long term is in Russia which means he wolnt be coming to NA anytime soon. This will scare some teams off and he will drop. That being said I dont take him at 20.
What the chances of Petrov being at #20 and do we take a flyer on him?
I honestly think we are going to end up w/ him. But I think it will be w/ our 2nd rounder as there is alot of talent going around that will be easier to get to play in NA or already is in NA.
By the way I looked at that top 5 german prospects, and the #1 there Flaake seems kind of intriguing, as a person who could be surprise of the draft. Does anybody think we could nab him in the 3rd?
I honestly think we are going to end up w/ him. But I think it will be w/ our 2nd rounder as there is alot of talent going around that will be easier to get to play in NA or already is in NA.
By the way I looked at that top 5 german prospects, and the #1 there Flaake seems kind of intriguing, as a person who could be surprise of the draft. Does anybody think we could nab him in the 3rd?
What's being said about him? He got 1A in 30 games with Cologne, which at least used to be one of the stronger teams in the Bundesliga.
I'm still intrigued by the Finn Niemi, and wouldn't mind grabbing him in the 2nd or 3rd round.
What's being said about him? He got 1A in 30 games with Cologne, which at least used to be one of the stronger teams in the Bundesliga.
I'm still intrigued by the Finn Niemi, and wouldn't mind grabbing him in the 2nd or 3rd round.
According to Cologne general manager Rodion Pauels, Flaake's strengths lie in his skating abilities, intelligence on the ice as well as his nose for the net. U18 head coach Jim Setters takes this assessment of this particular asset even further, stating that Flaake "has a very good sense around the net. In any league he has played he collects a lot of points. He very rarely misses the net when he shoots. He has great stickhandling skills."
he did put up 80 pts in 36 games in the DNL for the Cologne Sharks this year as well making him the top scorer in that Junior league. This was his first year in the DEL so I don't think he played that much which could attribute to low stats.
According to Cologne general manager Rodion Pauels, Flaake's strengths lie in his skating abilities, intelligence on the ice as well as his nose for the net. U18 head coach Jim Setters takes this assessment of this particular asset even further, stating that Flaake "has a very good sense around the net. In any league he has played he collects a lot of points. He very rarely misses the net when he shoots. He has great stickhandling skills."
he did put up 80 pts in 36 games in the DNL for the Cologne Sharks this year as well making him the top scorer in that Junior league. This was his first year in the DEL so I don't think he played that much which could attribute to low stats.
he's also ranked at #22 in Europe.
Hmmm, maybe the NHL draft site isn't updated completely for him, yet. Sounds like a guy who could be a late round gem.
Is the McKeen's draft guide worth buying for $20, or should I just join the website for a month @ $5.50?
There are mixed reviews about the guide. Everyone seems to agreed that the coverage on the website has dropped substantially. IE. if you're expecting to find alot of scouting reports on 2008's it may not be there.
take it with a grain of salt, though. I have paid for neither. this is just what i've read.
IMHO after reading up only on all these prospects I'd hope they swing for the fences with the #20 pick and go for Petrov at that spot.
I think the lack of a transfer agreement makes for some risky but potentially some very rewarding pciks where if you take the chance you can grab a guy who would never be available at a later spot due to the unique situation.
It's almost like the late 80's and early 90's where teams like the Redwings got all those Russians so late and hit the jackpot when they made the move over.
And guys like Cherepanov and Petrov will make the move over even if it is a yr or 2 or 3 behind when a NA player may be brought into the fold.
With our depth amoung prospects but the lack of real highend type guys outside of Cherepanov I think we have to go with a guy who many feel would be top 10 and who redline has as the 4th best forward available.
And on top of being a guy with top 2 line potential he is also a power forward with size so that also addresses a shortcoming amoung our prospect pool.
To be able to land a guy like that at the 20th spot is well worth the considerable risk as even with his rumoured contract I think the lore of playing not only the NHL but also in NYC with it's huge Russian population as well as the fact of having other russians his own age as teamates in Cherepanov and Anisimov would eventually lead to him joining the organization.
Those 3 have the potential making of a significant line with it's size and offensive upside with Petrov and Cherry on the wing and a heady 2-way Anisimov in the middle.
And for the same reasons listed above I'd also really kick the tires on Evgeny Grachev in the 2nd round where his overall package and size may make him the steal of the 2nd round.
Not really an expert but reading the sketch the Hockey News had for him in their draft issue I thought this is exactly the kind of d-man that Rangers fans love to hate. We've been down this road before. Definitely would pass on Robak.
Is the McKeen's draft guide worth buying for $20, or should I just join the website for a month @ $5.50?
I am a member of the site. I'm luke warm about it. It does provide scouting reports on their top 60 prospects. It's usually a one game analysis with some comments on their skills. The top Prospects could have two or three game analysis. One the year before his draft year, the beginning of his draft year and the end of his draft year.
I am getting the draft guide for the first time which should tell you that I feel I'm wanting something more. I also get the ISS draft guide. I do enjoy it.
For the 5 + dollars for the month, it would not be such a bad investment for the lower round picks which is hard to find info on ..
Not really an expert but reading the sketch the Hockey News had for him in their draft issue I thought this is exactly the kind of d-man that Rangers fans love to hate. We've been down this road before. Definitely would pass on Robak.
imagine if sather takes him at number 20, i can hear the fans now sather u suck
IMHO after reading up only on all these prospects I'd hope they swing for the fences with the #20 pick and go for Petrov at that spot.
I think the lack of a transfer agreement makes for some risky but potentially some very rewarding pciks where if you take the chance you can grab a guy who would never be available at a later spot due to the unique situation.
It's almost like the late 80's and early 90's where teams like the Redwings got all those Russians so late and hit the jackpot when they made the move over.
And guys like Cherepanov and Petrov will make the move over even if it is a yr or 2 or 3 behind when a NA player may be brought into the fold.
With our depth amoung prospects but the lack of real highend type guys outside of Cherepanov I think we have to go with a guy who many feel would be top 10 and who redline has as the 4th best forward available.
And on top of being a guy with top 2 line potential he is also a power forward with size so that also addresses a shortcoming amoung our prospect pool.
To be able to land a guy like that at the 20th spot is well worth the considerable risk as even with his rumoured contract I think the lore of playing not only the NHL but also in NYC with it's huge Russian population as well as the fact of having other russians his own age as teamates in Cherepanov and Anisimov would eventually lead to him joining the organization.
Those 3 have the potential making of a significant line with it's size and offensive upside with Petrov and Cherry on the wing and a heady 2-way Anisimov in the middle.
And for the same reasons listed above I'd also really kick the tires on Evgeny Grachev in the 2nd round where his overall package and size may make him the steal of the 2nd round.
Cherepanov and Petrov are completely different, Cherepanovs contract runs up after next year. Petrov is signed for significantly longer and could be 5-6 years away from every coming over, he will make far more money in Russia.
If we take Petrov its because when interviewed he expressed a desire to come over to NA. If we don't take him we know that he wasnt that excited about leaving home.
If we take Petrov its because when interviewed he expressed a desire to come over to NA. If we don't take him we know that he wasnt that excited about leaving home.
