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Vancouver and Los Angeles Swap Picks and Prospects

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06-11-2008, 01:11 PM
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Vancouver and Los Angeles Swap Picks and Prospects

So I read here that the Kings have fifteen draft picks this year and eight of those are in the first three rounds.

I have also heard on numerous occasions that this draft is going to be very deep both in the sense that the top picks are all high quality prospects and in the sense that each pick in the first few rounds gives an opportunity at a player with a good chance to play in the NHL one day.

Since the Kings already have a stable of decent prospects but would probably like another defender or two who is going to be able to help out in the next couple of years and the Canucks need to restock the cupboard in pretty much every area except goal, I was wondering what fans of both teams think of this:

To LA:
  • 10th Overall Pick

To VAN:
  • Trevor Lewis
  • 28th Overall Pick
  • 32nd Overall Pick

(It wouldn't have to be Lewis, I am thinking pretty much any forward prospect will do but I assume you guys are higher on Purcell and I'd prefer Lewis over Moller)

Los Angeles gets another lottery pick and the opportunity to draft a potential impact defenseman in Myers, a scorer in Del Zotto or one of the safer picks in Teubert or Sbisa; Vancouver gets three prospects who all may be able to contribute in the next two or three years (at which time we'll likely need cap relief in the form of inexpensive young players).

Thoughts?

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06-11-2008, 01:25 PM
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So I read here that the Kings have fifteen draft picks this year and eight of those are in the first three rounds.

I have also heard on numerous occasions that this draft is going to be very deep both in the sense that the top picks are all high quality prospects and in the sense that each pick in the first few rounds gives an opportunity at a player with a good chance to play in the NHL one day.

Since the Kings already have a stable of decent prospects but would probably like another defender or two who is going to be able to help out in the next couple of years and the Canucks need to restock the cupboard in pretty much every area except goal, I was wondering what fans of both teams think of this:

To LA:
  • 10th Overall Pick

To VAN:
  • Trevor Lewis
  • 28th Overall Pick
  • 32nd Overall Pick

(It wouldn't have to be Lewis, I am thinking pretty much any forward prospect will do but I assume you guys are higher on Purcell and I'd prefer Lewis over Moller)

Los Angeles gets another lottery pick and the opportunity to draft a potential impact defenseman in Myers, a scorer in Del Zotto or one of the safer picks in Teubert or Sbisa; Vancouver gets three prospects who all may be able to contribute in the next two or three years (at which time we'll likely need cap relief in the form of inexpensive young players).

Thoughts?
I could see Lombardi doing doing the 2 picks but hard to imagine him trading Lewis along with that package. Dont really see picks and players traded together on draft day to move up. Its usually a combination of picks.

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close, but i'm not sure where it is i have the problem.

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Personally I think it's overpayment by Vancouver.

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I can see the Kings moving the 28th pick and a player/ prospect to move up. Maybe even other picks but not the 32nd pick, it's too good of a pick to grab a player that has dropped on draft day.

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06-11-2008, 01:55 PM
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considering that the canucks lack any high end prospects, but have been accumulating a decent depth of overall prospects in the past few drafts (Schneider, Hansen, Grabner, White, Ellington, Gendur, Shirokov, etc... with Edler and Raymond recently graduating), wouldn't it make much more sense for the canucks to keep the high end prospect here (the #10 pick) than move that for 2-3 lesser prospects?

IMO the canucks should keep the #10 pick, unless they're getting a sure-fire young NHLer in return - because the #10 pick should get you one... depth prospects and later picks aren't as important to the canucks at this point IMO. What they need is a difference maker... much better chance you get that from the 10th pick, especially in this draft, than you would with Lewis, and/or a couple of later picks....

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As a Canucks fan, I would have no problem with this as long as Hodgson, Boedker, and Wilson were all off the board at 10.

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Tenth pick in a deep draft--it would cost the kings

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Depending on how the top 9 go, it will either be a good deal or a no deal. If someone special falls from that top group of prospects because of an off-the-board pick, that #10 probably becomes much more valuable.

Canucks fall into very uncertain waters at the #28/32, making it hard to target someone there. And I feel like there's another drop off in talent right before those picks.

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Canucks fall into very uncertain waters at the #28/32, making it hard to target someone there. And I feel like there's another drop off in talent right before those picks.
Add in who is the head scout for the Canucks.

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I would jump on this if I were the Kings.

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If they threw in a proven player like Cammalleri then I'd consider.

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If they threw in a proven player like Cammalleri then I'd consider.
Cammy only gets traded for a young NHL ready dman. Otherwise the Kings will keep him and either sign him long turn or trade him at the trade deadline.

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Depending on how the top 9 go, it will either be a good deal or a no deal. If someone special falls from that top group of prospects because of an off-the-board pick, that #10 probably becomes much more valuable.

Canucks fall into very uncertain waters at the #28/32, making it hard to target someone there. And I feel like there's another drop off in talent right before those picks.
exactly what he said

unless something more proven is offered, we should keep the 10th pick.

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drop Lewis, and replace it with Jack Johnson. You got a deal.

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drop Lewis, and replace it with Jack Johnson. You got a deal.
Nah, the Kings wouldn't do that.

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drop Lewis, and replace it with Jack Johnson. You got a deal.
Why dont people realize that the odds of Vancouver getting picks and a good young prospect are close to zero? Look at all the trades made to move up and very very few involve players or prospects. If it was a trade for a player yeah but trades made to move up very rarely involve players or prospects.

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drop Lewis, and replace it with Jack Johnson. You got a deal.
Vancouver would have to give up quite a bit more if that were to happen.

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Lewis was the 17th overall pick himself just 2 years ago. That won't happen and no one really makes trades like that.

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drop Lewis, and replace it with Jack Johnson. You got a deal.
Okay, and throw back Schneider, Edler + and you can get Johnson.

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I would do it if I was Vancouver. There will be some pretty good players available late 1st / early second, and if they do a good job, they could come out with two great players.

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Cammy only gets traded for a young NHL ready dman. Otherwise the Kings will keep him and either sign him long turn or trade him at the trade deadline.
Meszaros, perhaps?

But we would need a D back too so I guess that won't work especially since his contract will expire soon.

EDIT- What would the Kings want for Oscar Moller? I just love this guy's skill level and he was amazing to me in the WJ'rs.

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drop Lewis, and replace it with Jack Johnson. You got a deal.
Hah! Good one!

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drop Lewis, and replace it with Jack Johnson. You got a deal.
I almost choked when I read that. I hope it wasn't serious. Vancouver would probably have to trade their 1st round pick (#10), their second round pick (#41) and a decent prospect (Ellington) in order for Lombardi to even consider trading Johnson.

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Jack Johnson would drop you for suggesting such an offer.

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