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06-12-2008, 09:31 PM
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lol...yes, Philly totally outplayed us. we looked like an ECHL team. What was I thinking.
We need to get rid ok Andrei, Sergei, Kovalev, Markov, Koivu and Plekanec because we arent going anywhere with them. they only lead our team all year but your so right. We must let them go.

im done in this thread
I'm pretty sure outchancing them and outshooting them, isn't us getting out played.

No one went to the front of the net, that's why we lost, but that was then, this is now, that's a couch and you have boobies.

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if you guys dont agree with me that Candians are the best...look at this



Best player EVER in NHL: Mario Lemieux, or Gretzky whichever you take
Best Defenceman: BOBBY ORR or Denis Potvin
Gest Goalie: Ken Dryden, or Patty Roy

Best Prospect in the NHL:Sidney Crosby
Best Prospect outside NHL: John Tavares
TOP Prospect in 08: Steven Stamkos
Best Goalie Prospect in NHL: Carey Price
Best Goalie Prospect outside NHL: Jonathan Bernier

World Junior A Champs:
2 years in a row (Tourney is only 2 years old)

World Junior Championship Winners:
4 Years in a Row




That resume speaks for its self


Past Stanley Cup Winner Captains
1994:Mark Messier
1995:Scotty Stevens
1996:Super Joe SAKIC
1997:Stevey Y
1998:Stevey Y
1999: Darian Hatcher (American)
2000:Scott Stevens
2001:Joe Sakic
2002:Stevey "Y" Yzerman
2003:Scott Stevens
2004:Vinny Lecavalier
2006:Rob Brindamour
2007:Scott Neidemeyer


Man I can go more back....

did you mean Dave Andreychuk?

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06-12-2008, 09:39 PM
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What this boils down to is the fact that we need more grit and aggressiveness. We need some forwards with a mean streak...

As long as they understand what screen the goalie means, thats all that matters culturally.

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06-12-2008, 09:43 PM
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What this boils down to is the fact that we need more grit and aggressiveness. We need some forwards with a mean streak...

As long as they understand what screen the goalie means, thats all that matters culturally.

This I agree
However to say its Canadians that we need is wrong. Again, look at detroit

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06-12-2008, 09:55 PM
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for the 1st time? nothing agianst them but I think this is what this team needs...the Trevor Lindens, the Gary Roberts, the guys that are playoff WARRIORS.....look at our team in the playoffs, if we had guys with HEART we would of did some damage...
Gary Roberts? LMAO

The guy's been a bum for 10 years, Begin with less left in the tank.

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Did Gary Roberts do anything in these playoffs except punching players in the face and hitting from behind? I wish I had a whole team of cheap-shotters like that

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06-12-2008, 10:06 PM
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barely any euro players in the 70's and 80's, euro's really didn't become captains til 2000 onward, Detroit has dominated the league for the past 11 years with alot of euros. Whether it was the russian 5 of the 90's, or the swedish players now, the Redwings have been the most elite team and the league, and they've been built of Euros even in the Yzerman years. A team who's been starved of a cup foir 15 years, who won the east conference this season, does not need to tear and rebuild. This is truly xenophobic Don Cherry esc. behavior.

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06-12-2008, 10:13 PM
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WHERE did I say get rid of our Euro/Non Canadian Players??


Im just suggesting we get more Canadian WARRIORS! I got nothin against Euros cuz I would never turn down Selanne or Hossa joining the team, I jus suggest we get good ol Canadian Playoff Warriors
We don't have any Canadian player in our top 2 lines. So to clear up place for your Canadian warriors, the Habs will have to get rid of players in the 3rd and 4th lines, already mostly formed by Canadian players? Isn't that counter-productive?

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We just need players that play a North American style of game. Yes Detroit won with Euros, but Holmstrom and Franzen play like "Canadians", there's no denying that. We need those skilled grinders on the team because it doesn't seem like Gui will change any time soon.

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06-12-2008, 10:40 PM
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Team A is gonna play Team B in a playoff series.... Team A is filled with good Canadian boys... Team B is a bunch of Euros..... who will win the series...

Team A: Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau, Michael Ryder, Glen Murray, Jose Theodore, Wade Redden, Jason Spezza, Dany Heatley, Ribeiro,
Team B: Alex Ovechkin, Sergei Federov, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Holmstrom, Lidstrom, Jagr, Zubov, Gonchar, Alfreddson, Koivu,


I'm betting on Team B winning....

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.........some of my best friends and Euros. And they seem really nice.

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Maybe not, but I'll be the first to admit we need a 'Canadian' style player. I don't care about his name/background or whatever, just we need that gritty garbage goal scorer who hits everything and gets in traffic. We're most likely to find one in our own backyard than in Europe where they're almost unheard of.

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I actually agree somewhat with the original poster. Talent is talent, and I don't really care where it comes from, but all things being equal I think it's great when local players play for the home team. Same way with the Jays or the Raps.

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06-12-2008, 10:52 PM
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Maybe not, but I'll be the first to admit we need a 'Canadian' style player. I don't care about his name/background or whatever, just we need that gritty garbage goal scorer who hits everything and gets in traffic. We're most likely to find one in our own backyard than in Europe where they're almost unheard of.
While that used to be the case it isn't any more....

Gritty go to the net guys are coming from all countries now....

European countries began to copy Canadian coaching and development in the late 90s-early this decade and we are seeing the results now in a new generation of players....

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Team A: Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau, Michael Ryder, Glen Murray, Jose Theodore, Wade Redden, Jason Spezza, Dany Heatley, Ribeiro,
Sure, just assemble the all-time wimpy no-shows in the playoffs team of all time!

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Very strange thread considering the last cup winner.

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Sure, just assemble the all-time wimpy no-shows in the playoffs team of all time!
But everyone on Team A is a "good Canadian boy"

Surely these Canadians are grittier and more suited to win in the playoffs then their European counterparts on Team B...

We know that

Canadian grit >>>>>>>> Euro grit
in all cases.... Its part of the Canadian DNA or something....

There is no way the Canadian team will lose... these guys can't be playoff chokers... they are Canadian after all....

Canadian = Playoff Warrior
Euro = Choker

In all cases... no exceptions.

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06-12-2008, 10:55 PM
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Team A is gonna play Team B in a playoff series.... Team A is filled with good Canadian boys... Team B is a bunch of Euros..... who will win the series...

Team A: Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau, Michael Ryder, Glen Murray, Jose Theodore, Wade Redden, Jason Spezza, Dany Heatley, Ribeiro,
Team B: Alex Ovechkin, Sergei Federov, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Holmstrom, Lidstrom, Jagr, Zubov, Gonchar, Alfreddson, Koivu,


I'm betting on Team B winning....
Why exactly is a guy like Spezza in Team A? He's been exceptional in the post-season. 1 bad playoff, his whole team was a mess.

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06-12-2008, 11:10 PM
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While that used to be the case it isn't any more....

Gritty go to the net guys are coming from all countries now....

European countries began to copy Canadian coaching and development in the late 90s-early this decade and we are seeing the results now in a new generation of players....
The fact remains that in leagues in Europe they still play a different game- they might be slowly converting to a more 'Canadian' style(fights etc that used to be unheard of), but our players have been brought up to play that way and it's only natural they be better at it because that's all they've ever known. Im not counting out the fact we could find that gritty/scoring/hitting player outside North America, I'm just saying it's probably alot easier to find them in our own backyard... and we need that 'style' on our team. Ala Pacioretty.

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But everyone on Team A is a "good Canadian boy"

Surely these Canadians are grittier and more suited to win in the playoffs then their European counterparts on Team B...

We know that

Canadian grit >>>>>>>> Euro grit
in all cases.... Its part of the Canadian DNA or something....

There is no way the Canadian team will lose... these guys can't be playoff chokers... they are Canadian after all....

Canadian = Playoff Warrior
Euro = Choker

In all cases... no exceptions.
A+ for effort but why do you bother?

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i see your point, we need more guys that play a rugged ''canadian style'' game...guys like holmstrom/franzen who would do anything to put the puck in the net and run anyone over are the playoff warriors we were missing against philly. canadian/american/euro whatever, you DO need grit in the playoffs against teams like philly and boston.

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Team A is gonna play Team B in a playoff series.... Team A is filled with good Canadian boys... Team B is a bunch of Euros..... who will win the series...

Team A: Joe Thornton, Patrick Marleau, Michael Ryder, Glen Murray, Jose Theodore, Wade Redden, Jason Spezza, Dany Heatley, Ribeiro,
Team B: Alex Ovechkin, Sergei Federov, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Holmstrom, Lidstrom, Jagr, Zubov, Gonchar, Alfreddson, Koivu,


I'm betting on Team B winning....
You easily could have chosen better players for your team Canada...

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You easily could have chosen better players for your team Canada...
and you easily could've NOT missed the point of the post.... which is this...

Not all canadians are playoff warriors... and not all euros are chokers...

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Very strange thread considering the last cup winner.
Yea well then I raise you the last year winners, the Anaheim Ducks. Let's face it the Red Wings did not get that roughed up in the series. I think the most trouble they had was against....The Predators. Preds got beat because of lack of talent but they caused a surprise why? Because they took it to the Red Wings, they played old school and it almost worked.

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