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06-13-2008, 04:33 PM
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I wonder if Duco might get a call up for a game or two if we are plagued with injuries again. I know its highly unlikely that he does get called up since we have more NHL ready players then Duco but still a possibility since Duco is very familiar with Deboer's system.
Happy that we got a coach with some emotion.

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06-13-2008, 04:33 PM
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a coach in that was given a sickly talented roster and was unable to deliver a Memorial Cup Championship this season
Well, he WAS 'given' the sickly talented roster by himself, because he was Kitchener's GM too. So, if this Martin guy doesn't work out...

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I posted a thread in the OHL forum asking some of these questions. One guy gave some good information on the system he runs. I asked him basically the same thing you're asking so we'll see what he has to say.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p...1#post14400765
The early reviews seem to be encouraging.

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06-13-2008, 04:37 PM
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Peter DeBoer:
Current Winning Percentage: 67%
Number of Years in hockey: 21 years
Number of Years as head coach: 13 years
Number of Winning seasons: 12
Number of Years in NHL: 0
Number of Championships: 2(OHL)

Players coached that are currently at the NHL level:
-Mike Richards(Philadelphia Flyers)
-Derek Roy(Buffalo Sabres)

-Steve Eminger(Washington Capitals)
-Greg Campbell(Florida Panthers)
-Bryan Berard(New York Islanders)
-David Legwand(Nashville Predators)
-Paul Mara(New York Rangers)

-Jason Ward(Tampa Bay Lightning)
-Justin Williams(Carolina Hurricanes)
-Stephen Weiss(Florida Panthers)

-James Wisniewski(Chicago Blackhawks)
-Chad Larose(Carolina Hurricanes)
-Karl Stewart(Tampa Bay Lightning)
-David Clarkson(New Jersey Devils)
-Boris Valabik(Atlanta Thrashers)
-Matt Lashoff(Boston Bruins)
-Steve Downie(Philadelphia Flyers)

That's not a bad list guys. I think that the Panthers made a good catch with DeBoer. As a Thrashers fan, I'm disappointed that our inapt management didn't even considered him for the HC position.

GL with PDB.

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06-13-2008, 05:01 PM
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Peter DeBoer:
Current Winning Percentage: 67%
Number of Years in hockey: 21 years
Number of Years as head coach: 13 years
Number of Winning seasons: 12
Number of Years in NHL: 0
Number of Championships: 2(OHL)

Players coached that are currently at the NHL level:
-Mike Richards(Philadelphia Flyers)
-Derek Roy(Buffalo Sabres)

-Steve Eminger(Washington Capitals)
-Greg Campbell(Florida Panthers)
-Bryan Berard(New York Islanders)
-David Legwand(Nashville Predators)
-Paul Mara(New York Rangers)

-Jason Ward(Tampa Bay Lightning)
-Justin Williams(Carolina Hurricanes)
-Stephen Weiss(Florida Panthers)

-James Wisniewski(Chicago Blackhawks)
-Chad Larose(Carolina Hurricanes)
-Karl Stewart(Tampa Bay Lightning)
-David Clarkson(New Jersey Devils)
-Boris Valabik(Atlanta Thrashers)
-Matt Lashoff(Boston Bruins)
-Steve Downie(Philadelphia Flyers)

That's not a bad list guys. I think that the Panthers made a good catch with DeBoer. As a Thrashers fan, I'm disappointed that our inapt management didn't even considered him for the HC position.

GL with PDB.
Thanks for the info, I posted it on my blog.

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06-13-2008, 05:28 PM
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I LOVE this signing! This is why I think JM is amazing at being a general manager!

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interesting point raised over at http://slapshot.blogs.nytimes.com/20...oer-as-coach/:

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Rangers coach Perry Pearn was thought to be a serious candidate for this job and an interview was scheduled for next week. Pearn and Martin were supposed to meet earlier but travel restrictions on Pearn, who is coming off knee surgery, prevented an earlier get-together. It would be odd if those restrictions played a role in Pearn not getting the position.
sounds like deboer was high on JM's list and with other teams circling, he felt he had to pull the trigger.

in any case, the general consensus on the boards here and in comments i've seen on other sites is that this is a good fit on both sides.

imo, this is a risky move by JM; though not his first, it is another example of the fact that he doesn't appear to be the "play it safe" guy some have complained about, you know, the guy who might not make a real bad mistake but was too conservative to ever make the bold move necessary to get a team over the hump. this sounds promising but as i always say, there is never a guarantee. here's hoping things work out (and maybe some of the anti-JM bloviators on this site chill out a bit).

ps - GR just commented that "JM says Peter will be able to interview his own staff, but will start with the guys who are already here -- and under contract....". keeping around one or more of the guys who were here certainly mitigates the risk a bit. should be interesting.

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06-13-2008, 05:32 PM
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I LOVE this signing! This is why I think JM is amazing at being a general manager!
Amazing is quite an exaggeration. We shall know how this works out in a year or so.

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Very good coach. A good move by Martin.

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Does anyone know if he is offensive or defensive minded? (Sorry if this was already stated. If so, I must have missed it.)

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06-13-2008, 05:41 PM
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Does anyone know if he is offensive or defensive minded? (Sorry if this was already stated. If so, I must have missed it.)
He has a tendency to let skilled players play. But when the puck heads back to the other end, the forwards hustle back to help out the D. If I had to class him as one or the other, I'd say more defensive minded than offense. But not to the point of suffocating creativity.

He's demanding and quick to praise, and a hard worker will be rewarded faster than a lazier, skilled player. He expects a first line star to work just as hard as a 4th line grinder.

As I said in the OHL thread, I think you guys will like him just fine. Kitchener's loss is your gain. I can't do anything but wish him the very best though - we were lucky to have him as long as we did.

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06-13-2008, 05:49 PM
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Wouldn't surprise me if Azzy heads Florida's way. Duco and DeBoer are attractions for him.

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06-13-2008, 05:58 PM
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He has a tendency to let skilled players play. But when the puck heads back to the other end, the forwards hustle back to help out the D. If I had to class him as one or the other, I'd say more defensive minded than offense. But not to the point of suffocating creativity.

He's demanding and quick to praise, and a hard worker will be rewarded faster than a lazier, skilled player. He expects a first line star to work just as hard as a 4th line grinder.

As I said in the OHL thread, I think you guys will like him just fine. Kitchener's loss is your gain. I can't do anything but wish him the very best though - we were lucky to have him as long as we did.
Having said that, I think David Booth is going to be his favorite player!

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This sounds on the surface like a very good hire. I do not know much about this guy (like a lot of us) but he seems to have the skillset for being a good coach ...

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06-13-2008, 06:26 PM
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Wow, never would have guessed it. We've had OneOfTheHockeyGods and Georgia Panther crying for weeks saying a Martin clone was going to be hired.
Well, a young coach who has never coached professional hockey players let alone NHL players and who has also never played in the NHL should be easy enough for Martin to dominate and make into a Mini-Martin. That being said, I prefer him over Pearn and Savard and the retreads that were available. Can't believe the Panther Vets, Jokinen and others will be too happy with this. I think the younger vets will approve though I think this will make Bouw's re-signing less likely as I think he's looking for a team with an established winning tradition.

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Well, a young coach who has never coached professional hockey players let alone NHL players and who has also never played in the NHL should be easy enough for Martin to dominate and make into a Mini-Martin. That being said, I prefer him over Pearn and Savard and the retreads that were available. Can't believe the Panther Vets, Jokinen and others will be too happy with this. I think the younger vets will approve though I think this will make Bouw's re-signing less likely as I think he's looking for a team with an established winning tradition.
Yeah, because first of all, Martin is such a dominating personality. I've only seen him in a couple interviews and in like 5 games behind the bench, but DeBoer is not a guy who's going to be pushed around by anybody IMO. JM definitely has the meeker personailty of the two.

Secondly, the Rangers had the best offensive team in the CHL this year. Yeah, some of that was due to the talent on their roster, but his coaching style definitely played a part. He lets his players 'go' on offense. He seems to me to be a well rounded coach. He also seems to demand good defensive play from his forwards on the backcheck. And as others have said, he gives his players a kick in the butt when they need it, but is not an overbearing villain either. I think he'll work well with our roster and I'm excited by this hiring. He went to Bermuda to visit with the Sens' owner earlier in the week, so they were defintiely interested in him too. If any of the Panthers' players are disappointed by this, I don't think they will be once they meet the guy. Seems like a real good guy and a very smart, talented coach.

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Wouldn't surprise me if Azzy heads Florida's way. Duco and DeBoer are attractions for him.
That would be awesome.

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No GP, this sounds like a guy who will do the job he's going to set out to do.

Pushed around, no, but sorry that doesn't fit you're rants. (not really)

I don't think this has much impact on Bouw's re-signing, if it does, it's likely positive. I don't hear San Jose's vets harping about their new coach.

Give it a rest for crying out loud.


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06-13-2008, 06:46 PM
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Good hire. It will be nice to have some fresh blood around the Panthers. Great track record.

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Having said that, I think David Booth is going to be his favorite player!
...and Nathan Horton's worst nightmare.

Regarding the OT - I'll reserve judgement for now. I'm cautiously optimistic.

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I have not once heard of Peter DeBoer in my entire life, but it seems like this could be a nice move for us if he actually motivates our players and pumps the tempo of play up a few notches.

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That would be awesome.
The one part about Azevedo is he isnt a good skater and his size (5"8) doesnt help.

But he does have a great shot. The only wary part is...this reminds me of Corey Locke. Here's a comparison..

Corey Locke (5"9, 168 LBS)
* All Stats are OHL (Season and Playoffs - Whole Career)
GM: 229
G: 164
A: 209
P: 373

Justin Azevedo (5"8 180 LBS)
* All Stats are OHL (Season and Playoffs - Whole Career)
GM: 293
G: 124
A: 222
P: 346

I think Azzy is a slightly stronger skater. But I dont see much of a difference. I think Azevedo needs to work on his skating and if he can..look out cause he has a rocket of a shot.

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Nice Record

995-96 Detroit Whalers OHL Head Coach 66 40 22 4 0 0.636
1996-97 Detroit Whalers OHL Head Coach 66 26 34 6 0 0.439
1997-98 Plymouth Whalers OHL Head Coach 66 37 19 7 3 0.636
1998-99 Plymouth Whalers OHL Head Coach 68 51 11 4 2 0.794
1999-00 Plymouth Whalers OHL Head Coach 68 45 18 4 1 0.699
2000-01 Plymouth Whalers OHL Head Coach 68 43 15 5 5 0.706
2001-02 Kitchener Rangers OHL Head Coach 68 35 22 10 1 0.596
2002-03 Kitchener Rangers OHL Head Coach 68 46 14 5 3 0.735
2003-04 Kitchener Rangers OHL Head Coach 68 34 26 6 2 0.559
2004-05 Kitchener Rangers OHL Head Coach 68 35 20 9 4 0.610
2005-06 Kitchener Rangers OHL Head Coach 68 47 19 0 2 0.706
2006-07 Kitchener Rangers OHL Head Coach 68 47 17 0 4 0.721
2007-08 Kitchener Rangers OHL Head Coach 68 53 11 0 4 0.809

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The one part about Azevedo is he isnt a good skater and his size (5"8) doesnt help.

But he does have a great shot. The only wary part is...this reminds me of Corey Locke. Here's a comparison..

Corey Locke (5"9, 168 LBS)
* All Stats are OHL (Season and Playoffs - Whole Career)
GM: 229
G: 164
A: 209
P: 373

Justin Azevedo (5"8 180 LBS)
* All Stats are OHL (Season and Playoffs - Whole Career)
GM: 293
G: 124
A: 222
P: 346

I think Azzy is a slightly stronger skater. But I dont see much of a difference. I think Azevedo needs to work on his skating and if he can..look out cause he has a rocket of a shot.
I know he's small and doesn't skate well, but I think he has the potential to be a top 6 guy. He's smart, he economizes his ice well because he knows he's not the best skater. And not only does he have a great shot, he has great vision and is a superb playmaker, which is the best asset a "slow" player could have. I never saw Locke play and I don't know what the hinderance has been for him to come up to the NHL(I'm guessing it's his size), but I have been really impressed with Azevedo this season. Yeah, he may be small and slow, but man can he play. I'd love to take a chance on him. At the very least I have very strong confidence that he could become a great PP specialist. He does definitely need to improve his skating as much as possible, though.

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damn i wanted the devils to sign him as an assistant, he is going to be a great nhl coach i think

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