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Given the fact that Eklund has said it, I thought I'd run it up the flagpole and see who salutes it, while I watch to see if any of my fellow comrades in arms will start throwing rocks at me for selling the future down the river:
To NYI:
Patrick Marleau
To SJ:
Jeff Tambellini
Prospect a la Kohn/Colliton/Nielsen/Katic
2nd round pick '08
2nd round pick '09
Before I let the flamers have at it, keep in mind Brad Richards was moved without a 1st round pick being exchanged, hence the reason why I excluded it. This time around, teams are going to want the future right now for a 1st round pick.
Given the fact that Eklund has said it, I thought I'd run it up the flagpole and see who salutes it, while I watch to see if any of my fellow comrades in arms will start throwing rocks at me for selling the future down the river:
To NYI:
Patrick Marleau
To SJ:
Jeff Tambellini
Prospect a la Kohn/Colliton/Nielsen/Katic
2nd round pick '08
2nd round pick '09
Before I let the flamers have at it, keep in mind Brad Richards was moved without a 1st round pick being exchanged, hence the reason why I excluded it. This time around, teams are going to want the future right now for a 1st round pick.
Let the flaming begin...
Not terrible but not enough. Even with his monstrous contract, Richards still got Tampa a starting goalie (Smith), a young top 6 winger (Jokinen) and a good two-way top 9 center (Halpern). Marleau could fetch more than an unproven young player, a second rate prospect and a couple second rounders.
I think San Jose would be looking for something proven if they didn't get a 1st round pick ....
Exactly. Dallas gave up Mike Smith and Jussi Jokinen, two solid young guys. I think the isles would need to throw in a first rounder unless they were willing to give up okposo or comeau which they won't
Before I let the flamers have at it, keep in mind Brad Richards was moved without a 1st round pick being exchanged, hence the reason why I excluded it. This time around, teams are going to want the future right now for a 1st round pick.
The only difference is Tampa Bay got some quality players in return.
I can't see Islanders and San Jose making good partners. Other then first round draft picks or Okposo the only thing we could offer is a package like Witt + Hunter + something(which would basically gut out the team).
Trading for Marleau would be stupid as well because he has 2 years left on his contract and good chance he will just bolt then and we left empty handed.
Hunter, Comeau, 2nd, 4th for Marleau. Not sure it makes sense from the Isles' standpoint but in my eyes it seems fair value wise. If I'm totally off please feel free to bash me and let me know.
Exactly. Dallas gave up Mike Smith and Jussi Jokinen, two solid young guys. I think the isles would need to throw in a first rounder unless they were willing to give up okposo or comeau which they won't
Difference is they got that at the trade deadline,if San Jose wants to rid themselves of Marleau they only have til July 1st so they might have to take what they can get,I really don't think Marleau would bring back a great package at all.
This deal doesn't seem that far off to me.Actually I think it would be silly for the Islanders not to send a bad contract back(if they have any)
Last edited by bruinsfreak72: 06-14-2008 at 08:40 PM.
Difference is they got that at the trade deadline,if San Jose wants to rid themselves of Marleau they only have til July 1st so they might have to take what they can get,I really don't think Marleau would bring back a great package at all.
I guess that sort of true as well. Who thought Tanguay would go for so little a few years back, could be a similar deal like that. I have to think Marleau's value somewhat similar to Tanguay when he was traded(if not slightly less)
Given the fact that Eklund has said it, I thought I'd run it up the flagpole and see who salutes it, while I watch to see if any of my fellow comrades in arms will start throwing rocks at me for selling the future down the river:
To NYI:
Patrick Marleau
To SJ:
Jeff Tambellini
Prospect a la Kohn/Colliton/Nielsen/Katic
2nd round pick '08
2nd round pick '09
Before I let the flamers have at it, keep in mind Brad Richards was moved without a 1st round pick being exchanged, hence the reason why I excluded it. This time around, teams are going to want the future right now for a 1st round pick.
as an outsider to the Sharks franchise, I must admit I do not value Marleau as much as I would of last offseason.
His season was subpar, and his playoffs were even worse.
I think I would be looking at him as a lower tier 2nd liner and you should be looking at him as a Salary dump, as such I dont think you can expect as much as you seem to think. that offer involving Jeff Tambellini and picks I think is a great overvalue for Marleau
Edit: My trade proposal of Kubina for Marleau makes alot of sense for me
1: Ron Wilson is the Leafs new coach and there is a familiarity there
2: The Amount of each player counting against the cap are relatively equal (4.5 Mil - 5 Mil)
3: San Jose gets what it needs, A solid Minute eating Defender (likely replacing Campbell) and the Leafs get what they need, a Legitimate 2nd line center
It basically breaks down to 2 teams trading a strength to upgrade a weakness
thoughts?
The likelihood IMO of Marleau getting moved before Friday is slim to nil, so this year's picks should probably be out altogether of any deal. That being said, with a 1st from next year's draft (which from the Islanders could possibly be worth it's weight in gold) thrown in instead of 2 2nd's, then how does the deal look?
Edit: This does not mean I condone the trading of a 1st in '09.
Last edited by DisplacedIslander: 06-14-2008 at 09:35 PM.
Trading for Marleau is going to require a first round pick or combo of solid players. Why do Sharks need prospects and junk?
From an article I read SJ wants to get more physical,grittier for the postseason.
They want to send a message in their lockerroom that the laid back days are over.
as an outsider to the Sharks franchise, I must admit I do not value Marleau as much as I would of last offseason.
His season was subpar, and his playoffs were even worse.
I think I would be looking at him as a lower tier 2nd liner and you should be looking at him as a Salary dump, as such I dont think you can expect as much as you seem to think. that offer involving Jeff Tambellini and picks I think is a great overvalue for Marleau
My thoughts exactly I think if Marleau gets dealt Sharks fans are going to be disapointed about the return.
But I mean Marleau is coming off of a bad season is going to be making over 6million for the next 2 seasons and there is a timeline he has to be dealt in,this is the lowest his value has ever been.Marleau is really only a salary dump every GM knows this so unless a GM really really likes Marleau and i willing to do whatever it takes to get him I really cant see Marleau bringing back a big return
My thoughts exactly I think if Marleau gets dealt Sharks fans are going to be disapointed about the return.
But I mean Marleau is coming off of a bad season is going to be making over 6million for the next 2 seasons and there is a timeline he has to be dealt in,this is the lowest his value has ever been.Marleau is really only a salary dump every GM knows this so unless a GM really really likes Marleau and i willing to do whatever it takes to get him I really cant see Marleau bringing back a big return
as a Leafs fan, I would be willing to accept Marleau if San Jose will take Kubina off my hands
Kubina will score 40-50 points, play 25 minutes a game, and plays a physical game.
To pay for it, I would let Sundin walk as a free agent, and Begin the rebuilding process.
The likelihood IMO of Marleau getting moved before Friday is slim to nil, so this year's picks should probably be out altogether of any deal. That being said, with a 1st from next year's draft (which from the Islanders could possibly be worth it's weight in gold) thrown in instead of 2 2nd's, then how does the deal look?
Not very promising.Even if Marleau's willing to sign that all important extension before the deal's completed,I'd hope Snow would refuse to put next yr's #1 on the table.
DiPi's coming off his 2nd hip surgery and the fans have been told that next yr's team will be younger.Not a promising combination.I wouldn't be surprised at another lottery pick.I believe Hedman and Taveres (sp) will be available in next yr's draft.
as a Leafs fan, I would be willing to accept Marleau if San Jose will take Kubina off my hands
Kubina will score 40-50 points, play 25 minutes a game, and plays a physical game.
To pay for it, I would let Sundin walk as a free agent, and Begin the rebuilding process.
Well that would make sense if I was a GM the only way I would take Marleau if SJ took a fairly big contract back as well,unless it was a team that needed Marleau's salary to just make it to the cap floor then I guess they could live with the contract.
Not very promising.Even if Marleau's willing to sign that all important extension before the deal's completed,I'd hope Snow would refuse to put next yr's #1 on the table.
DiPi's coming off his 2nd hip surgery and the fans have been told that next yr's team will be younger.Not a promising combination.I wouldn't be surprised at another lottery pick.I believe Hedman and Tavares will be available in next yr's draft.
I'd hope for the same thing too, but it's hard to predict what's going to happen next in the monkeyhouse sometimes. And a shot at Tavares or Hedman in next year's draft is too much to pass up, or to give away.
His season was subpar, and his playoffs were even worse.
I don't even know what to say. You are so incredibly wrong it hurts.
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I think I would be looking at him as a lower tier 2nd liner and you should be looking at him as a Salary dump, as such I dont think you can expect as much as you seem to think. that offer involving Jeff Tambellini and picks I think is a great overvalue for Marleau
Lower tier second line center?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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1: Ron Wilson is the Leafs new coach and there is a familiarity there
Good lord. From all accounts, Ron Wilson and Patrick Marleau hate each other.
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2: The Amount of each player counting against the cap are relatively equal (4.5 Mil - 5 Mil)
Marleau has a new contract worth 6.7.
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3: San Jose gets what it needs, A solid Minute eating Defender (likely replacing Campbell) and the Leafs get what they need, a Legitimate 2nd line center
If Marleau were to be traded, it would most likely be to dump salary so they can resign Campbell.
, nice sarcasm for someone with 5 posts. And it wasn't necessary to use a "
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