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06-13-2008, 02:45 PM
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Penguins file for arbitration with Fleury

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/...y_arbitration/

The Pittsburgh Penguins have elected to file for salary arbitration with goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury, it was announced today by Executive Vice President and General Manager Ray Shero.

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Smart thinking. Try to keep his salary down for the next couple of seasons then sign him long term.

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http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/...y_arbitration/

The Pittsburgh Penguins have elected to file for salary arbitration with goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury, it was announced today by Executive Vice President and General Manager Ray Shero.
It will probably be a more common strategy to pre-empt RFA offer sheets, right?

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It will probably be a more common strategy to pre-empt RFA offer sheets, right?
Correct.

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Great move by Pitts... something tells me the arbitrator will place the final numbers well below MAF's expectations.

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Wow, this might actually be a terrible move in the long term.

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Great move by Pitts... something tells me the arbitrator will place the final numbers well below MAF's expectations.
But with MAF's seemingly fragile confidence/personality, will he be damaged goods after the hearing? Will he refuse to play for the team?

I'm betting that this thing doesn't make it to the arbitration date.

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Wow, this might actually be a terrible move in the long term.
They have until the arbitration date to hammer out a long term deal and by taking Fluery to arbitration no other teams can give him an offer sheet.

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Wow, this might actually be a terrible move in the long term.
Probably not. They'll probably continue working towards a longer term contract in the meantime...this was most likely done to exempt Fleury from "hand grenade" offer sheets.

Worst case scenario...the Pens get Fleury at the arbitration rate for 1 to 2 years...which should be well below what he'd receive on the open market.

EDIT: What he said.

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But with MAF's seemingly fragile confidence/personality, will he be damaged goods after the hearing? Will he refuse to play for the team?
If thats the case, hockey players are ****ing little babies.

Seriously. You can take a team to arbitration fine and dandy but when a team does it to you, your ego is hurt and you don't wanna play anymore? **** you.

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If thats the case, hockey players are ****ing little babies.

Seriously. You can take a team to arbitration fine and dandy but when a team does it to you, your ego is hurt and you don't wanna play anymore? **** you.
There's usually hard feelings coming out of any arbitration hearing, regardless of initiates them.

It takes a pretty thick skin to sit through an entire hearing where your employer runs down the list of things that you suck at, and why you don't deserve what you think you're worth.

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Wow, this might actually be a terrible move in the long term.
How? By doing this it guarantees no team may be permitted to tender an offer sheet to Fleury.

Smart move if you ask me.

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There's usually hard feelings coming out of any arbitration hearing, regardless of initiates them.

It takes a pretty thick skin to sit through an entire hearing where your employer runs down the list of things that you suck at, and why you don't deserve what you think you're worth.
I agree 100%.


To bad I am 99% sure this never ends up in arbitration. This just limits RFA. That is all it is doing is protecting the Penguins against another team shenanigans on July 1st.

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If thats the case, hockey players are ****ing little babies.

Seriously. You can take a team to arbitration fine and dandy but when a team does it to you, your ego is hurt and you don't wanna play anymore? **** you.
Let's not let this evolve into something it's not. Next thing you know, people will be ragging on Fleury, saying he's a selfish pansy. I agree that WOULD be crappy if it happened, but with that little rash reaction, it seems like you think it's certain to happen.

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how is this a Rumor?

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I agree 100%.


To bad I am 99% sure this never ends up in arbitration. This just limits RFA. That is all it is doing is protecting the Penguins against another team shenanigans on July 1st.
Or, it ensures they have time to work out a long-term deal without someone else lobbing a huge contract at him. On the flip side, if they don't get a long-term deal done and they end up in arbitration then Fleury can elect for a 1-year term and he'll be back in the same boat a year from now and the Pens won't be able to take him back to arbitration to protect him from an offer sheet.

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Let's not let this evolve into something it's not. Next thing you know, people will be ragging on Fleury, saying he's a selfish pansy. I agree that WOULD be crappy if it happened, but with that little rash reaction, it seems like you think it's certain to happen.
Oh, sorry. Don't take it as me saying Fleury is going to act like that. Fleury has always seemed to me to have a good head on his shoulders. I'm saying if any player does act like that, they should be taken out behind the woodshed and shot by an MacInnis hockey puck.

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Oh, sorry. Don't take it as me saying Fleury is going to act like that. Fleury has always seemed to me to have a good head on his shoulders. I'm saying if any player does act like that, they should be taken out behind the woodshed and shot by an MacInnis hockey puck.
No I get ya... I just know how HF seems to expand ideas and escalate opinions into truth. For instance, I just wanted to clarify this because I could see a hundred people coming in here, seeing that, and making it a fact that Fleury is a jerk.

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I just wanted to clarify this because I could see a hundred people coming in here, seeing that, and making it a fact that Fleury is a jerk.
Wouldn't argue with you on that one.

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Smart thinking. Try to keep his salary down for the next couple of seasons then sign him long term.
Arbitration awards are only for one year.

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I would think they could get him signed for three-four years and $4-4.5M per season.

He had a good playoff and a few amazing games, but he's still not quite at an elite level. Remember what Conklin was able to do with the same team.

On a one year arbitration I think he'd likely get 3.5-4M for one year.

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Arbitration awards are only for one year.
Or 2. But I think the idea is to work out a longer deal between now and the arbitration date. Instead of having to get it done by 7-1 when he could start seeing offers. A whole lot more time to negotiate probably.

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Or 2. But I think the idea is to work out a longer deal between now and the arbitration date. Instead of having to get it done by 7-1 when he could start seeing offers. A whole lot more time to negotiate probably.
Really? I thought they were always only 1 year.

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Really? I thought they were always only 1 year.
I believe Malone's deal that expires July 1 was a 2 year arbitration award. I think the losing side has the choice on the length ..

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Wow, this might actually be a terrible move in the long term.
didn't the rangers do this with lundqvist? if so, it didn't turn out too bad......

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