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02-15-2004, 07:50 PM
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Can Anaheim turn it up and contend?

I was pretty impressed by the Ducks' performance vs. the Canucks yesterday.
The Ducks currently sit in 13th place in the conference, but they are just nine points out of a playoff spot. Still, they have only 24 games remaining, and they'd have to pass Phoenix, Edmonton, Minnesota, Nashville and St. Louis to get there. However, teams like Dallas, Calgary and Los Angeles aren't exactly safe yet.

The Ducks have been playing better hockey lately (5-3-0-2) in the last 10. And they'd need to step it up.
Last night, I saw some positive signs. Fedorov was a huge factor in the game. Carney was a monster on defense. And Giguerre was splendid in goal.

I've also heard that guys like Prospal are turning it up.

And I think Babcock is one of the best young coaches in the game.

Anyway, I think the Ducks could make a decent run at it if they get hot.
And if they're within striking distance by the trade deadline, the team would really benefit with the addition of Sergei Gonchar. The Ducks transition game looks bad without Ozolinsh. GOnchar would be a perfect fit in Anaheim. DOes anyone know if the Ducks are willing to be buyers at this year's deadline? I'm assuming they have some money, if they were willing to deal for Comrie.


Anyway, just wondering what you guys think.

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02-15-2004, 07:55 PM
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I saw the game the night before and my answer to your question is 'probably not'. Then again that would have been my response if you had asked me last year whether they'd make it to the Cup final.

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I'm not saying Anaheim won't make a push, but I wouldn't look into their victory over Vancouver too much, because Van hasn't been playing their best hockey lately......

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The Ducks play great once every 5 games. They won't make the playoffs. There have been too many 'turning point' games. Every win is followed by a loss. (not to mention the Ducks inability to win against the 5-10 teams)

Last year, they were much more consistent through the year. This season, they are all over the place

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The Ducks will know for sure after the next few games. The following week sees them vs Dallas, Columbus, Nashville, Phoenix, Edmonton and LA. Only Columbus is below them in the standings. There's hope, but these next games will decide it. The Ducks are sitting on one of the hottest powerplays (uneffective last night), and Giguere is being counted on to be sharp (something he was, as well as lucky last night). Prospal and Sykora are starting to get going and the Ducks dominance in the faceoff circle and the penalty-kill is starting to have an effect as well. As mentioned, there is hope.

As for Gonchar, Ozolinsh hopes to be back around Mid-March, which is close to the deadline. I can't see the Ducks dealing for Gonchar.

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They won't make a comback and Hayward will look like a moron.

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Is it Brian Hayward, by chance?

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leclerc's return has had a pretty good effect on this team IMO. the guy missed the whole season, yet as soon as he comes back, he hits everyone and drives the net. get niedermayer and ozolinsh back (not sure when ozo is due back), have that PP clicking, and jiggy on his game...i think they have a chance, albeit a small one

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Don't get your hopes up, the Canucks would make Pittsburgh look like the Avs right now. They don't call us the Slumpbreakers for nothing!

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I was pretty impressed by the Ducks' performance vs. the Canucks yesterday.
The Ducks currently sit in 13th place in the conference, but they are just nine points out of a playoff spot. Still, they have only 24 games remaining, and they'd have to pass Phoenix, Edmonton, Minnesota, Nashville and St. Louis to get there. However, teams like Dallas, Calgary and Los Angeles aren't exactly safe yet.

The Ducks have been playing better hockey lately (5-3-0-2) in the last 10. And they'd need to step it up.
Last night, I saw some positive signs. Fedorov was a huge factor in the game. Carney was a monster on defense. And Giguerre was splendid in goal.

I've also heard that guys like Prospal are turning it up.

And I think Babcock is one of the best young coaches in the game.

Anyway, I think the Ducks could make a decent run at it if they get hot.
And if they're within striking distance by the trade deadline, the team would really benefit with the addition of Sergei Gonchar. The Ducks transition game looks bad without Ozolinsh. GOnchar would be a perfect fit in Anaheim. DOes anyone know if the Ducks are willing to be buyers at this year's deadline? I'm assuming they have some money, if they were willing to deal for Comrie.


Anyway, just wondering what you guys think.
I think the Ducks are cooked.

It's not just being back 9 points. It's having to leapfrog 5 teams to make the play-off's.

If Nashville (currently in 8th) is .500 the rest of the way, the Ducks have to get 35 points in their last 24 games. That's averaging almost 1.5 points per game, which is substantially better than COL or PHI has done to date.

Only chance the Ducks would have is if the 8-12 teams all tank, and they go on a tear. But the problem is that so many teams have to play poorly in front of them for them to have a chance.

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Sure it's possible... This Ducks team has shown flashes of brilliance this year, but as it has been pointed out, those flashes are too far and inbetween. If they can turn it up and play like they are capable, then they can make a solid push. I just don't know if they have the chemistry or leadership to do so.

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Doubtful, they aren't the same team that they were last year, missing character guys like Oates and Thomas, Prospal isn't playing the way the managment hoped, although Feds is doing alright.

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Well, they have a better shot than the Rangers anyway

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Sure it's possible... This Ducks team has shown flashes of brilliance this year, but as it has been pointed out, those flashes are too far and inbetween. If they can turn it up and play like they are capable, then they can make a solid push. I just don't know if they have the chemistry or leadership to do so.
The problem is that the Ducks have to play absolutely lights out, and the teams that are currently above them have to tank as well. The Ducks don't have their destiny in their hands at this point, and would have to rely on one of the Preds, Flames, or Stars self-destructing, and not have the Yotes, Blues, or Oilers pick their play up as well. Just too much of a long shot IMO.

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Ducks don't have their destiny in their hands at this point.
Sure they do. Look at who they play in their remaining games. They still have a bunch of "four point" games left

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The Ducks currently sit in 13th place in the conference, but they are just nine points out of a playoff spot. Still, they have only 24 games remaining, and they'd have to pass Phoenix, Edmonton, Minnesota, Nashville and St. Louis to get there. However, teams like Dallas, Calgary and Los Angeles aren't exactly safe yet.
*Just* nine points? As I said when this came up about the Rangers, people just don't realise how much that is.

"Just nine points" means the Ducks have to go close to 20-4 in those final games. You're impressed because they managed to go 2 games over .500 in the last 10, you really think they can go 16 games over in 24? And even if they pull off that miracle, they need five other teams to slump at the same time.

Ducks are D-O-N-E.

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It's way too late for them this year. It took too long for Fedorov and Prospal to blend in with the rest of the team, their best line from the playoffs last year (Leclerc-Rucchin-Niedermayer) has not been healthy enough to play even one game together, the defense slipped, and Giguere's had a spotty season.

OTOH, for a team with such a lousy record, they've sure carried the play in a large percentage of their games. They outshot and outchanced 12 straight opponents in one stretch, and only won 2 of the games? Something's just not right, but it's not the talent level. They're less than the sum of their parts right now.

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Another win tonight..

Western Conference
GP W L T OTL PTS GF GA HOME AWAY L10
1 Colorado 58 32 12 10 4 78 177 127 16-9-3-1 16-3-7-3 5-1-2-2
2 Detroit 59 33 16 8 2 76 189 139 21-5-3-0 12-11-5-2 6-2-2-0
3 San Jose 59 28 15 11 5 72 148 120 14-5-7-2 14-10-4-3 6-3-0-1
4 Vancouver 60 32 18 7 3 74 173 136 14-10-5-0 18-8-2-3 5-4-0-1
5 Calgary 58 30 20 5 3 68 144 129 16-11-4-1 14-9-1-2 6-3-1-0
6 Los Angeles 59 22 16 14 7 65 156 155 10-8-8-1 12-8-6-6 3-1-4-2
7 St. Louis 58 28 22 7 1 64 137 145 17-8-5-0 11-14-2-1 3-6-1-0
8 Dallas 59 27 22 10 0 64 125 132 16-6-6-0 11-16-4-0 6-2-2-0

Nashville 58 27 22 7 2 63 141 155 18-7-5-1 9-15-2-1 4-5-1-0
Minnesota 59 20 22 15 2 57 128 130 12-12-6-1 8-10-9-1 3-4-1-2
Edmonton 59 23 26 9 1 56 149 152 15-12-3-0 8-14-6-1 4-5-1-0
Anaheim 59 20 24 8 7 55 130 155 13-7-6-3 7-17-2-4 5-3-0-2

9 points out with 23 games to go. Two points away from leapfrogging two more teams. I think it's possible considering who the Ducks play over their last games. One hot streak and they're right back in it so I think it's possible.

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OTOH, for a team with such a lousy record, they've sure carried the play in a large percentage of their games. They outshot and outchanced 12 straight opponents in one stretch, and only won 2 of the games? Something's just not right, but it's not the talent level. They're less than the sum of their parts right now.
Well the answer to that riddle is goaltending. Jiggy's been an abomination for most of the season.

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Yes it is. The former Jets, Habs, and Sharks goalie.

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And North Stars.

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Another win tonight..

Western Conference
GP W L T OTL PTS GF GA HOME AWAY L10
1 Colorado 58 32 12 10 4 78 177 127 16-9-3-1 16-3-7-3 5-1-2-2
2 Detroit 59 33 16 8 2 76 189 139 21-5-3-0 12-11-5-2 6-2-2-0
3 San Jose 59 28 15 11 5 72 148 120 14-5-7-2 14-10-4-3 6-3-0-1
4 Vancouver 60 32 18 7 3 74 173 136 14-10-5-0 18-8-2-3 5-4-0-1
5 Calgary 58 30 20 5 3 68 144 129 16-11-4-1 14-9-1-2 6-3-1-0
6 Los Angeles 59 22 16 14 7 65 156 155 10-8-8-1 12-8-6-6 3-1-4-2
7 St. Louis 58 28 22 7 1 64 137 145 17-8-5-0 11-14-2-1 3-6-1-0
8 Dallas 59 27 22 10 0 64 125 132 16-6-6-0 11-16-4-0 6-2-2-0

Nashville 58 27 22 7 2 63 141 155 18-7-5-1 9-15-2-1 4-5-1-0
Minnesota 59 20 22 15 2 57 128 130 12-12-6-1 8-10-9-1 3-4-1-2
Edmonton 59 23 26 9 1 56 149 152 15-12-3-0 8-14-6-1 4-5-1-0
Anaheim 59 20 24 8 7 55 130 155 13-7-6-3 7-17-2-4 5-3-0-2

9 points out with 23 games to go. Two points away from leapfrogging two more teams. I think it's possible considering who the Ducks play over their last games. One hot streak and they're right back in it so I think it's possible.
I think it's cool that the team's fans still believe. Stranger things have happened.
But if you're as experienced as missing the playoffs as a Flames fan, you start looking in golf bags. As it stands, us Flames fans are still a little skeptical of our spot and we're 13 points up on the Ducks with a game in hand. Though if a few teams tank below us it helps me sleep at night.

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