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06-19-2008, 04:00 PM
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If he is that great, they would keep him.
Hmmmmm, guess Edmonton did not think much of Gretzky !!!!!

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Lol

Fifth rounder would be as high as I would go.
Good thing you arent the GM then, you wouldnt get much done.

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Wow one year of injuries, and statements like this

I seriously hope you are kidding
He would be kidding if 10 soundtigers werent playing on the Isles roster at 1 point or another.Injuries really hammered the Isles this year but excuses are like *******s [edited by IB - don't circumvent the filter] we all have them.

I was more pissed Bport missed the playoffs then the isles sucking.Bport season ticket holder.

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Good thing you arent the GM then, you wouldnt get much done.
That's alright

I would be more than happy if McCabe stays up there, and we stay where we are and draft a future franchise defenseman or Filatov.

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Ben Walter, or something.
Id rather keep the pick... Draft Filatov or a D-MAN... as were rebuilding we dont need McCabe...

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06-19-2008, 04:04 PM
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The deal being

NYI: 7th + McCabe

TOR: 5th + mid level prospect

Is pretty much fair as far as I can tell...

I agree, although I'd think the prospect would have to be on the lower end of mid.

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An early 3rd or late 2nd from the Islanders should get it done
If it was ANA's 2nd Rounder for McCabe, I would do it.

No need to move down from the 5 spot.

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06-19-2008, 04:05 PM
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Id rather keep the pick... Draft Filatov or a D-MAN... as were rebuilding we dont need McCabe...
Sure. But you arn't the GM, now are you?

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He also mentioned that Antropov was being shopped, could a McCabe+Antropov for Isle's 1st rounder be done or is that not possible?

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06-19-2008, 04:06 PM
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He would be kidding if 10 soundtigers werent playing on the Isles roster at 1 point or another.Injuries really hammered the Isles this year but excuses are like a^*(&))les we all have them.

I was more pissed Bport missed the playoffs then the isles sucking.Bport season ticket holder.
Yeah, but that was our team from LAST season. For this coming season, with the assumption of health, that statement about us being not much better than the farm is completely idiotic

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Being an Isles fan, It better include a young vet or a good prospect.

As I see it:

McCabe
7th Overall
*Another Asset* (I dont want a secound rd pick either)

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5th overall pick
McCabe and a 7th for the 5th is overpayment by Toronto. Yet I'd do it to get rid of McCabe so we can start rebuilding.

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06-19-2008, 04:07 PM
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The deal being

NYI: 7th + McCabe

TOR: 5th + mid level prospect

Is pretty much fair as far as I can tell...
I agree from an Isles standpoint as well. Steen or Stajan is just overpayment by the Leafs. The Isles should get something more for taking McCabe off the Leafs hands but not THAT much more.

McCabe's salary isn't that bad especially for the Isles who have plenty of cap space and he is a good player (contrary to popular belief on these boards). However, if TO wants him out bad enough (not necessarily because of salary, maybe just culture change) then they should expect to pony up a little additional incentive. Mid-level prospect and/or picks would get it done. I still wouldn't want the Isles to move down though unless they have a huge hard-on for a player like Wilson or Boedeker who they would take at 5 anyway.

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Sure. But you arn't the GM, now are you?
Who here is a GM?

The poster was just saying what he thinks the team should do.

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He also mentioned that Antropov was being shopped, could a McCabe+Antropov for Isle's 1st rounder be done or is that not possible?
The Isles would have to add a top 60 pick, IMO. If the LEafs are including their #7th overall pick as well, then the Isles would have to add a top prospect.

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06-19-2008, 04:08 PM
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He also mentioned that Antropov was being shopped, could a McCabe+Antropov for Isle's 1st rounder be done or is that not possible?
No chance (I hope ). The Isles are rebuilding and are not going into this draft without a first round pick.

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06-19-2008, 04:09 PM
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He also mentioned that Antropov was being shopped, could a McCabe+Antropov for Isle's 1st rounder be done or is that not possible?
Not a shot. The Isles are in a youth movement. Why would they trade a top pick in a great draft for 1 year of Antropov and a player coming off of a subpar season, with a high cap number, and who refuses to go anywhere else (meaning Leafs are over a barrel)

This is what a lot of people are forgetting in these offers...the Isles are rebuilding. Value of McCabe to most teams aside, picks/prospects are more valuable to the Isles at this point.

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Wow one year of injuries, and statements like this

I seriously hope you are kidding
Funny how that doesn't apply to McCabe the other way. One injured year and suddenly he's the worst defenseman in the league.

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Sure. But you arn't the GM, now are you?
Nor are you... Im just giving you an Isles "fan POV" obviously i dont speak for the Islanders as you dont the leafs......

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To me it sounds like if the rumors are even true...... but if they are it sounds like Antropov would be in another deal for a different 1st rounder later on.

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Yeah, if anything, Antropov would be moved alone for a pick. But I doubt he gets moved. Kubina, on the other hand, is as good as gone today or tomorrow.

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we shall see

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06-19-2008, 04:13 PM
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Funny how that doesn't apply to McCabe the other way. One injured year and suddenly he's the worst defenseman in the league.
What? That comment had nothing to do with McCabe. All I was saying was after one year of team injuries(to the Isles), people are now comparing them to an "AHL" caliber team

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as an islander fan, PLEASE DONT GIVE UP THE 5TH PICK!!!!!!!! HE'S NOT WORTH IT ANYMORE!!!!

im sorry im going crazy right now you have no idea!

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Yeah, if anything, Antropov would be moved alone for a pick. But I doubt he gets moved. Kubina, on the other hand, is as good as gone today or tomorrow.
Lets hope so anyways. I'm really excited to see how things turn out tomorrow, I hope its not just hype that Flech is going to be wheeling and dealing

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Not a Leafs fan, but not a hater either.

Call me crazy, but McCabe is better d-man than any of the UFA's available this year. Add in that the actual $'s paid over the next 3 years averages out to less than $4.5M, and for a team whose budget is below the cap, he's very affordable.

The real issue in trading him is that his "market" value really doesn't matter if he only wiaved his NMC to go to the Islanders. At that point, what he's worth on the open market is completely meaningless.

I see this as a good opportunity for the Isle. McCabe would be their best overall d-man by a wide margin, and they should be able to get him cheaply.

Not sure why the Leafs are so desperate to trade him. They'd be better off getting "full value" for Kubina from a team like CLM (19th overall) and holding onto McCabe. When McCabe was out last year, the team imploded. He's definetely not an "elite" guy, but he's a good top pairing guy that can eat minutes IMO, and I think the Leafs will be significantly worse off next year if he's traded. It's not like they $5.75M of cap space is going to get them an impact UFA. Who is available - Vrbata & Huselius? It's not like there's a "quick fix" available.

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