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What prospect would you offer for Zhamnov. I dont want a combination of slugs. Just pick one good prospect you would be willing to trade for Zhamnov straight up with no picks or other players thrown in on either side.
I would absoultely love to get Carter from Philly but realistically unless Clarke has a major brain cramp (which has been known to happen) it wont happen.
My first target now would be Mike Richards from Philly and secondly Kesler from Vancouver. A notch below would be Umberger from Vancouver.
Aiming higher but what the heck since I dont think Zhamnov could fetch these players but I would also like either Hale or Martin from Jersey or Allen from Vancouver.
I could live with either Umberger or Koltsov. Neither overly excites me but I just want to get the trade over with. Im glad you threw realistic possibilities out there, I was scared of seeing Federov or Kings names thrown out.
Like I said at frank' board---I do not see the haks getting a teams best prospects for AZ---he is not the kind of player that would put the team into the next level. As I have pretty much screamed--look at his last ten years of stats----he has barley stayed healthy, been unable to put three games together to nake it even appear that he is the go to guy on the haks.
It is crunch time and the teams that are buyers are looking for players that can be the go to guy, the guy that puts the team over the top--can win the big game--players with heart.
We will most likely continue this on Franks board----
But AZ and heart are two things that have never met.
BTW
The nucks will not be trading Kril Kristov for AZ---he is their PP for the future and with AZ being so injury prone--I truly doubt that Burke would give up his best prospect for a soon to be 34 ufa
I could live with either Umberger or Koltsov. Neither overly excites me but I just want to get the trade over with. Im glad you threw realistic possibilities out there, I was scared of seeing Federov or Kings names thrown out.
Burke won't trade Koltsov for Zhamnov, no way. Umberger I can see, but the Canucks won't trade one of their best prospects(Koltsov, Kesler) for two months of Zhamnov. 2nd round pick and Jason King, that's likely they best type of deal Chicago will get. Bondra went for a decent to good prospect and a 2nd rounder, I see Zhamnov going for less.
Burke won't trade Koltsov for Zhamnov, no way. Umberger I can see, but the Canucks won't trade one of their best prospects(Koltsov, Kesler) for two months of Zhamnov. 2nd round pick and Jason King, that's likely they best type of deal Chicago will get. Bondra went for a decent to good prospect and a 2nd rounder, I see Zhamnov going for less.
We wouldnt even claim Jason King off waivers. We are loaded with young forwards who have far more potential than him and it would not make sense to block up a roster spot with him.
Not a chance that Zhamnov could get the hawks Koltsov. Umberger is about as high as I could see Burke going. Allen and Kesler aren't even in the same ballpark.
The guys who are saying no to the canucks trading Koltsov are not being realistic. Koltsov hasn't shown anything since coming to NA. I would easily trade Koltsov or Umberger for Zhamnov.
I would not trade Allen or Kesler. They are NHLers, and have already proven that.
The guys who are saying no to the canucks trading Koltsov are not being realistic. Koltsov hasn't shown anything since coming to NA. I would easily trade Koltsov or Umberger for Zhamnov.
I would not trade Allen or Kesler. They are NHLers, and have already proven that.
It's funny how quickly people jump off the bandwagon of prospects. He's been in North America for half a season and has 19 points in the AHL. Hardly terrible for a defensemen. IMO he's as valuable to the Canucks as Kesler. I would not move either unless we're getting a vital piece of the puzzle in return. An aging, playmaking center (which we already have 2 of), who has 5 points in 17 career playoff games doesn't qualify as a vital piece.
We wouldnt even claim Jason King off waivers. We are loaded with young forwards who have far more potential than him and it would not make sense to block up a roster spot with him.
I guess Zhamnov won't be coming to Vancouver then. I can definitely live with that!
Dont jump on me, Im just throwing the question out there but does anyone think that Zhamnov could feasibly fetch a first round draft choice?
We could even wait a year and make it a 2005 pick since we already have 3 second and 3 fourth rounders in 2004.
Possible, yes. Reasonable, no, not IMO. But then again, I'm not a big Zhamnov fan. Not opposed to getting him, I just see his value lower then that of Bondra's. If a team get's really desperate for a potential top line center, then someone may offer a 1st rounder for him, but I wouldn't count on getting anything more then what Steve Sullivan brought in.
Yet it's something Burke has been pursuing over the last year.
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Being rumoured to be interested in players and "needing" them are two totally different things. Btw, Damphousse also plays wing and that was last year when Henrik wasn't doing nearly as well.
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Originally Posted by Behn Wilson
Dont jump on me, Im just throwing the question out there but does anyone think that Zhamnov could feasibly fetch a first round draft choice?
We could even wait a year and make it a 2005 pick since we already have 3 second and 3 fourth rounders in 2004.
Sure, I think it's feasible, especially if there's a bidding war. I just don't see Vancouver being the team to trade it since what the canucks REALLY needs is a scoring winger. It's not so much that I don't like Zhamnov as it is that he simply isn't a good fit for the Canucks.
It's funny how quickly people jump off the bandwagon of prospects. He's been in North America for half a season and has 19 points in the AHL. Hardly terrible for a defensemen. IMO he's as valuable to the Canucks as Kesler. I would not move either unless we're getting a vital piece of the puzzle in return. An aging, playmaking center (which we already have 2 of), who has 5 points in 17 career playoff games doesn't qualify as a vital piece.
I'm not saying Koltsov won't be a good player, I'm saying that he is going to need at least 1 more full AHL season. His game is nowhere near the NHL level.
You make trades mid-season to try and get your team deep in the playoffs, you don't worry about a defenseman that is 2 seasons away from playing in the NHL.
You make trades mid-season to try and get your team deep in the playoffs, you don't worry about a defenseman that is 2 seasons away from playing in the NHL.
You also don't trade away your top prospect for a rental player in a position that doesn't fill a strong need for your team.
You also don't trade away your top prospect for a rental player in a position that doesn't fill a strong need for your team.
A team going nowhere with an eroding fan base wouldnt trade its leading scorer and fan favorite for a couple second rounders. There is no way a team would do that after requesting he sign a multi year contract for a paycut which he refused.
There is no way a team would be that stupid.
Being rumoured to be interested in players and "needing" them are two totally different things. Btw, Damphousse also plays wing and that was last year when Henrik wasn't doing nearly as well.
