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06-22-2008, 08:24 PM
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CAMPBELL WILL NOT TAKE LESS THAN 8!!!!!!!!!

this is his payday for his career, he was a late bloomer and is looking to cash in hence the reason he left buffalo.........HE IS NOT A #1 DMAN!!!!!

all forwards have to do is go to the outside and shield the puck and get the puck deep and he loses his guy ALL the time....honestly, how many of you people have seen him play for an extended amount of time?

also, dont you think its funny how two teams, buffalo and SJ who both have the cap room and have seen him for longer than any of you have dont want him on their team anymore for what he is going to ask for?.....

again, to reitorate, he will not be taking a paycut as he wouldnt take one to stay in buffalo and he will be lookig for 8 million a year as he is a 28 year old d-man who is overhyped because of his spin-o-ramas, but like someone else said, he is a winger in a defensemans body.....he is good offensively but bad defensively, something this team doesnt need.....whoever pays him is going to regret it
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LOL wouldnt that be nice. I wonder if Sather still has that coupon...
he just told me he does

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Mind you I would take Redden just as much as Campbell

But i will still defend the guy cause he will help AND he is more offensive than Redden

Either or is fine but what do ya think Redden will make,,,,,,,,yea alot thanks

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In a nutshell Sather will not give him 8 million, please.........Can we all agree he is worth 6?
you can agree that he is worth 4.75 but he will get 8

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Vandermer makes sense cause he would be cheap and the 6th Dman

I say do that and Sign Campbell for a discount...which still would be like 6-6.5
Again, why do people think he will take a discount to come here?

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06-22-2008, 08:28 PM
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Again, I never said I was advocating an offer-sheet to anyone. I'm not sure why you're still harping on that. If we could work out a trade for Weber or JBo, I think it's a fantastic play.

In three years our D could look like:
Staal - Sanguinetti
Weber/JBo - Del Zotto
Girardi - Tyutin

That is obscene depth and talent.



I think so as well. He's the type of PP acquisition we're looking for. He's a shooter, not a passer, which is exactly what our PP is lacking.



And Campbell stinks on D and will be 6+ million. Not to mention if we resign Jagr we'd have 3 PP QB's in Jagr, Gomez and Campbell with 2 more in Sanguinetti and Del Zotto waiting in the wings.
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06-22-2008, 08:29 PM
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Vandermer makes sense cause he would be cheap and the 6th Dman

I say do that and Sign Campbell for a discount...which still would be like 6-6.5

Campbell, Staal
Tyuyin, Girardi
Backman, Vandermeer, Potter

or dump Backman to save some cash for a forward
This is like the 3rd post you've mentioned signing Campbell for a discount. What discount?

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I don't like Souray either. However, with Gomez signed long term and Sanguinetti getting very close to the jump to the NHL, do we really need a 3rd PP QB? Campbell isn't a shooter. He's scored more than 10 goals only twice in his career since turning pro. We need a big shot from the back-end, not another assist machine.

McCabe was also the Leafs best d-man when he came back from injury.
Good point good point, I could see the powerplay just getting worse with everyone trying to pass all the time. Its just hard to say who is going to find chemistry with who...Gomez doesn't have it with Jagr, Rozy did kind of but he doesn't shoot enough. McCabe has a decent shot but I dont see that fixing the PP right away...Campbell might also help our transition game with his awesome first passes and vision. It's tough. I doubt McCabe waives his NMC...

I still think Redden would be the best option for the money, he also might take a shorter contract than Campbell which would be perfect.


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This is like the 3rd post you've mentioned signing Campbell for a discount. What discount?
a Wal-Mart coupon duh? but seriously Campbell has never played here, and He is Canadian there is no discount my friend.

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This is like the 3rd post you've mentioned signing Campbell for a discount. What discount?
Alright I quit,haha...............fine apparently Brian Campbell stinks and won't help the Powerplay

as for discount what I am saying is they can talk to him and offer 6.5 tops......if he takes it great

why does everyone think just cause he asks for 8 he will get it...........he won't ..............he'll get less and will come to NY to play in the same state he always played in and to play with Drury

if he doesnt then oh freaking well they tried................and they will just go elsewhere

Avery is the same example , he can ask for 4 all he wants and maybe at that rate someone will be drunk and give him close but he may come to the realization that playing in NY for 2.75 and all the extra coverage and media he gets is worth it

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Alright I quit,haha...............fine apparently Brian Campbell stinks and won't help the Powerplay

as for discount what I am saying is they can talk to him and offer 6.5 tops......if he takes it great

why does everyone think just cause he asks for 8 he will get it...........he won't ..............he'll get less and will come to NY to play in the same state he always played in and to play with Drury

if he doesnt then oh freaking well they tried................and they will just go elsewhere

Avery is the same example , he can ask for 4 all he wants and maybe at that rate someone will be drunk and give him close but he may come to the realization that playing in NY for 2.75 and all the extra coverage and media he gets is worth it
LOL come back to earth dude you're floating away!!!

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Alright I quit,haha...............fine apparently Brian Campbell stinks and won't help the Powerplay

as for discount what I am saying is they can talk to him and offer 6.5 tops......if he takes it great

why does everyone think just cause he asks for 8 he will get it...........he won't ..............he'll get less and will come to NY to play in the same state he always played in and to play with Drury

if he doesnt then oh freaking well they tried................and they will just go elsewhere

Avery is the same example , he can ask for 4 all he wants and maybe at that rate someone will be drunk and give him close but he may come to the realization that playing in NY for 2.75 and all the extra coverage and media he gets is worth it
Campbell was drafted to Buffalo and played for San Jose. your whole theory is flawed.

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a Wal-Mart coupon duh? but seriously Campbell has never played here, and He is Canadian there is no discount my friend.
He played in Buffalo........that is the State of NY..............argh...............

do u want me to just agree with all of you?......ok i will..........but
the NYR GM likely won't

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LOL come back to earth dude you're floating away!!!
I must say this is fun............guys u can say all u want but guess what.............the Rangers want to sign him............the end

they know his tag will be high...........they are obviously entertaining giving him atleast 6 .................will they go much higher , likely not..............

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He played in Buffalo........that is the State of NY..............argh...............

do u want me to just agree with all of you?......ok i will..........but
the NYR GM likely won't
Dude no one cares about what state they played in its a completely different organization.

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Dude no one cares about what state they played in its a completely different organization.
hahaha, thats like saying well Brian Leetch would come to the Islanders because its in the same State, and he will take a discounted price too.

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Dude no one cares about what state they played in its a completely different organization.
Let's say they need 2 D men

Campbell costs 7 million and Vandermeer costs 1 million

Orpik cost 4 million and Streit costs another 4 million

What's the better combo?

And I will ask what would you do on D then? and how much would you spend on those FA?

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western new york is a world away from new york city. buffalo is going to identify for more with toronto than nyc.

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Let's say they need 2 D men

Campbell costs 7 million and Vandermeer costs 1 million

Orpik cost 4 million and Streit costs another 4 million

What's the better combo?

And I will ask what would you do on D then? and how much would you spend on those FA?
1. Streit isnt a real Dman
2. Streit isnt getting 4 mil

if its Liles-4 mil and Orpik-4 mil

Easily the second combo, Vandy Sucks dude

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Let's say they need 2 D men

Campbell costs 7 million and Vandermeer costs 1 million

Orpik cost 4 million and Streit costs another 4 million

What's the better combo?

And I will ask what would you do on D then? and how much would you spend on those FA?
Honestly out of those choices id take Orpik and run. Vandermeer SUCKS...and 7 mil for campbell would hurt. with those choices right in front of me i take Orpik. Streit is worth no where near 4 mil IMO.

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western new york is a world away from new york city. buffalo is going to identify for more with toronto than nyc.
Buffalo is even different then Toronto, its more like Philly but extremely passionate

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We gave Chris ****ing Drury 7 million. There's no doubt in my mind that Slats will give Campbell 7.5-8.

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We gave Chris ****ing Drury 7 million. There's no doubt in my mind that Slats will give Campbell 7.5-8.
i think he'd throw that money at Hossa before Campbell

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i think he'd throw that money at Hossa before Campbell
Good point every year i expect Sather to throw money at the big UFA Dmen and he never does.

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We gave Chris ****ing Drury 7 million. There's no doubt in my mind that Slats will give Campbell 7.5-8.
OK so Vandermeer does stink ,haha but he is a 6th Dman and cheap............but he was just an example their are others just like him that can fill the role

So out of the teams that won the Stanley cup the last few yrs.......did they not have a great 1-2 combo on D.......Niedermeyer, Pronger.......Lidstrom, Rafalski

I guess Liles and Staal are gonna tear it up

If u want to win you have to take some gambles

The Rangers can cause they have a good players in the minors that are almost ready and can fill the 3rd and 4th lines cheap and the last D pairing

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