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06-23-2008, 10:59 AM
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What about Boumeester?

With the Jokinen deal bringing Ballard to Florida, does this mean Boumeester is now officially on the market?

I wonder if this would be a popular idea... trade Pitkanen to florida for Boumeester? Neither defenceman seems to want to be a part of thier respective teams. Both are bonafide top pairing defenders with offensive upsides. Im sure it wouldn't be a 1-for-1 deal, and the the Oil would have to sweeten the deal a little with a forward too (Schremp possibly...), but it might be a nice fit for both teams.

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06-23-2008, 11:05 AM
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I think Pitkanen not wanting to be in Edmonton is made up by bloggers and bored sports writers.

JBo might actually be sick of losing and only agree to a one year deal (making him UFA in a year).

I'd do the trade, but JBo would garner some serious interest.

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06-23-2008, 11:08 AM
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If that deal is made available, I'd jump all over it.

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If JBo is expendable due to Ballard why would they want Pitkanen back who would cost just as much?

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I thought he didn't want to play in Edmonton?

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Fla is a bad team, but they are building around Bou. He isn't going any were.

Lets talk in a couple years.

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06-23-2008, 11:40 AM
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Pitkanen does want to be here. Its Jay who supposedly does not.

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Pitkanen does want to be here. Its Jay who supposedly does not.
Maybe we need a sticky thread for that.

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06-23-2008, 01:02 PM
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If JBo is expendable due to Ballard why would they want Pitkanen back who would cost just as much?
..Because its Florida ?

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Pitkanen does want to be here. Its Jay who supposedly does not.
Where'd this originally come from.. Even from the start a few years back, I asked for a link and nothing was linked.. prob because its made up.

Link please to whom ever can provide one.

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06-23-2008, 01:22 PM
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And what about Bowmeester? I have not heard about him wanting out of Florida and of Martin trading him?

JBo for Pitkanen is at best a lateral move for FLA, but more than likely a serious downgrade.

This thread is about as useful as asking "What about Lecavalier?" after Richards got traded.

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Florida is slim up front. If J-bo gets traded it will be for forwards not d-men. So the question is what forwards are you willing to give up?

Cogliano,Nilsson,Horcoff,Stoll,Torres????

This is what I would be willing to give up? We need scoring not D-men

To edm-
J-bo

To fla-
Stoll
Torres
Smid/Grebishkov or a 1st/Shcremp or a first or maybe Petry

If they wanted Nilsson,Cogliano or Horcoff I dont think it is worth it!


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With the Jokinen deal bringing Ballard to Florida, does this mean Boumeester is now officially on the market?

I wonder if this would be a popular idea... trade Pitkanen to florida for Boumeester? Neither defenceman seems to want to be a part of thier respective teams. Both are bonafide top pairing defenders with offensive upsides. Im sure it wouldn't be a 1-for-1 deal, and the the Oil would have to sweeten the deal a little with a forward too (Schremp possibly...), but it might be a nice fit for both teams.

Thoughts?
Why would it possibly mean that?

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I thought he didn't want to play in Edmonton?
It's just hearsay and second hand knowledge. I don't think he's admitted to the media that he would not like to play in Edmonton. Apparently his family doesn't want him to go through the scrutiny that Mike Comrie went through before his Oiler exit.

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Florida is slim up front. If J-bo gets traded it will be for forwards not d-men. So the question is what forwards are you willing to give up?

Cogliano,Nilsson,Horcoff,Stoll,Torres????

This is what I would be willing to give up? We need scoring not D-men

To edm-
J-bo

To fla-
Stoll
Torres
Smid/Grebishkov and a 1st/Shcremp and a first or maybe Petry

If they wanted Nilsson,Cogliano or Horcoff I dont think it is worth it!
I don't think Bouwmeester is worth that much, especially with petry or another first in there. I don't even think adding schremp in there is worth it. To me it would be:

To edm: Bouwmeester

To fla: stoll, torres, smid/grebeshkov, and a first

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It's just hearsay and second hand knowledge. I don't think he's admitted to the media that he would not like to play in Edmonton. Apparently his family doesn't want him to go through the scrutiny that Mike Comrie went through before his Oiler exit.
Well, apparently he made the comment to a Florida beat reporter, but I never saw any links either. Makes sense though, because he made the comment a couple years ago. If you're 18, making tons of cash and you live in Ft. Lauderdale, why would you want to play anywhere else? Seriously the guy had it made at that age. But I'm sure now that he's matured and is taking hockey a lot more seriously, he wouldn't complain about being traded to a team that is contending to make the playoffs. He's probably pretty ticked they moved Jokinen too.

Personally I think the whole "home town kids don't wanna play in Edmonton" is bs. Comrie was under extra scrutiny because his father was a prominent business owner. At the end of the day Edmonton will run players out of town who aren't Edmontonians too- just ask Chris Pronger. But if you come here and play your game, we'll accept you just fine. Ask Smyth, Horcoff, Pisani, etc.

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Can you blame JayBo's parents's for caring about their son's life in the NHL, and going as far as saying that they would not welcome the idea of him playing in Edmonton?

Look at what happened to guys like Comrie,Chimera,Whitney and Lupul, do you actually believe Parents would risk having their kids endure that same amount of pressure and scrutiny, that others have recieved playing here?

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I don't think Bouwmeester is worth that much, especially with petry or another first in there. I don't even think adding schremp in there is worth it. To me it would be:

To edm: Bouwmeester

To fla: stoll, torres, smid/grebeshkov, and a first
I ment or in my post not and! I think you are bang on.

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I think Pitkanen not wanting to be in Edmonton is made up by bloggers and bored sports writers.

JBo might actually be sick of losing and only agree to a one year deal (making him UFA in a year).

I'd do the trade, but JBo would garner some serious interest.
Totally agree on the Pitkanen hating Edmonton crap. I've seen nothing from a legit media source. And I'd add some radio sports guys to your list.

I'd hate to lose Pitkanen, but I might do it for JayBo. Really not sure about the trade as it seem lateral to me, a bit better defensively, but less offensive potential. We do still have Grebs and Gilbert with Chorney and Petry in the system, so I'd probably do it, but only if we could sign him long term.

But if Pitkanen wants to sign long term, I wouldn't make the deal.

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Pitkanen does want to be here. Its Jay who supposedly does not.
I have little doubt about JayBo preferring not to play here, ever since his post draft interview. He was asked if he was hoping to go to Edmonton somehow, and he danced around the question by saying the Wings were actually his fav team growing up so they were his first choice. Or something to that effect.

But I'd hope that with the kids in our system, he might reconsider. He is likely worried of the hometown pressure and what if he doesn't play well here. But playing on a winning team can tend to change minds, and our future is looking solid here. And it looks even better with a long term Joni or JayBo signed.

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If JBo is expendable due to Ballard why would they want Pitkanen back who would cost just as much?
If they trade B it will not be because of $ it will be because he has decided to go to free agency.

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If they trade B it will not be because of $ it will be because he has decided to go to free agency.
He's an RFA, they can match any offer.

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Well, apparently he made the comment to a Florida beat reporter, but I never saw any links either. Makes sense though, because he made the comment a couple years ago. If you're 18, making tons of cash and you live in Ft. Lauderdale, why would you want to play anywhere else? Seriously the guy had it made at that age. But I'm sure now that he's matured and is taking hockey a lot more seriously, he wouldn't complain about being traded to a team that is contending to make the playoffs. He's probably pretty ticked they moved Jokinen too.
Exactly, apparently is right. Never anything concrete just rumours spreading and evolving between each host.


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Personally I think the whole "home town kids don't wanna play in Edmonton" is bs. Comrie was under extra scrutiny because his father was a prominent business owner. At the end of the day Edmonton will run players out of town who aren't Edmontonians too- just ask Chris Pronger. But if you come here and play your game, we'll accept you just fine. Ask Smyth, Horcoff, Pisani, etc.
I'm sorry, but we didnt run Pronger out of town, he ran himself out of town and deserved everything he got. If he did the same thing to another team as he did here, he'd have the same reaction from the fans there.

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He's an RFA, they can match any offer.
He is for one more year I believe and then Ufa. that is what i was talking about. If they cant sign him to a long term deal they will have no choice but to trade him. They cant afford to let him go Ufa.

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..Because its Florida ?



Where'd this originally come from.. Even from the start a few years back, I asked for a link and nothing was linked.. prob because its made up.

Link please to whom ever can provide one.
There's no link, his agent wouldn't let him say that on the record but he told me. That was a few years ago, he may be tired of losing now. He may have matured and might be more willing to take some pressure and become a part of a winning team, if he's playing for the money we don't want him, if he's playing because he wants to win a cup and is ready to take some leadership then i would love him. He's a phenomenal hockey player.

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Bowmeester would no doubt be a great addition to our defensive corps, but acquiring him from FLA is about as realistic as prying Malkin from Pitts, much less for the scrap pieces --Torres, Stoll and Schremp...

Let's hope Lowe can keep Pitkanen--at least for this year.

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Can you blame JayBo's parents's for caring about their son's life in the NHL, and going as far as saying that they would not welcome the idea of him playing in Edmonton?

Look at what happened to guys like Comrie,Chimera,Whitney and Lupul, do you actually believe Parents would risk having their kids endure that same amount of pressure and scrutiny, that others have recieved playing here?
or Fuhr, Messier, Gregg, Pisani, Brodziak,

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