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Bluenote13's NYR Draft Preview Extravaganza !



Hey folks, old Bluenote here with my yearly NYR draft preview. I’ve done one every year these boards have been around. Little about me - I’ve been a high school and College writer on these boards since 1998, was an assistant for the office of the Princeton Men’s team in the late 90’s working for coach Don Cahoon(helped recruit George Parros of all people). Through the connections over the years I’ve been able to correspond with a few people involved with NHL player personnel & some of the scouting bureau folks. I haven’t been able to follow prospects as closely these last few years because of my real job but I still get to see at least the top 60 or so players live or from videos. I’ve also worked for USA hockey and get info from some of their resources as well. Lets get into this, today’s the draft and we’re all psyched for a new future blueshirt (or 3 ) !

This years draft has been labeled as ‘deep’ by a number of people and publications. I'm not sure I agree. After the first ten picks, which contain solid two way defenders (not named Myers) the draft is deep in mobile defensive Dmen and diminutive wingers. But the scoring forwards are severely lacking. After the first 15 or so forwards go, there’s a lot of questionable suspects out there. The European contingent is also noticeably lacking. Compared to next year this draft pales in comparison, IMO.

At #20, the Rangers will have a decent pick of guys who run up and down the spectrum of prospects – defensive Dmen like Carlson, Cuma, Teubert – small forwards like Tedenby, Ennis, Calvert, Eberle – skilled Europeans like Petrov, Karlsson, Gustafsson - and also another young Staal, of the forward kind.

Here’s my mock draft, to show you more or less who I think will be taken before #20, the actual slot where certain players go may vary due to trades and such (which I do expect a few teams to trade up and down, and then there’s always the possibility of guys like Marleau & Jokinen being dealt .

1)Tampa Bay – Steve Stamkos
Easilly the best looking player from the CHL this year, should make the Ning a conteneder again, just a matter of time.

2)Los Angeles – Zach Bogosian
They’ll consider Doughty but Bogosian just seems like a natural fit for the Kings. He’s in the Rob Blake mold, and LA has a very big Armenian community right outside Hollywood. LA slowly building a nice stable of youngsters.

3)Atlanta – Drew Doughty
Simply put, the Thrash need defense, especially after that horrid Coburn trade. Doughty falls into their lap and he can play as early as this upcoming season if he gets himself in top shape.

4)St Louis – Nikita Filatov
Yes, they have a nice crop of forwards in the prospect stable, but this guy is a worldbeater. Imagine seeing Datsyuk as much as the Blues do – then imagine having a player like that to counter. I think St Lou is playing dumb and everyone thinks they take a Dman, but if they keep the pick I say Filatov is their guy. Their defense is fine with Johnson, Brewer, and Jackman all signed for the next few years.

5)NY Isles – Luke Schenn
Originally I was hearing the Isles were hot for Colin Wilson, and they still may take him, but my money is on Schenn. The Isles have very few defensive prospects, and none that come close to this guy. Hard hitter, and can handle the puck, and not too far away from playing with the big club.

6)Columbus – Alex Pietrangelo
Defense here makes sense – Voracek & Brassard on the way, Foote being traded, and Rosti Klesla not exactly setting the world on fire, Pieterangelo makes for a nice pick. He’s got skill and is a rangy defender that can play mean in front when he has to.

7))Toronto – Mikkel Boedker
I think the Leafs just can’t say no to a potential top line scorer. Boedkers draft stock is off the charts after his memorable playoff performance this spring. Colin Wilson and Hdgson get a look here but I think they go with the talented winger.

8)Phoenix – Tyler Myers
Lose a big and rangy winger, that’s ok, just make up for it by taking the biggest and rangiest Dman available! Myers will never be mistaken for Paul Coffey on offense, but the potential to get a Chara like Dman is too tempting for this up and coming team.

9)Nashville – Cody Hodgson
Defensively deep Nashville also has a nice foundation that they’ve been building up, but recent trades havnt really worked in their favor, most notably the Forsberg deal. But Hodgson is a very nice addition, offensive flair and a solid two way game. Two or three years away, but could surprise in this years camp.

10)Vancouver – Colin Wilson
I think the Nucks take the best player available, and one that’s a plus on the offensive side. Wilson is a strong two way Center but I feel he can play at any position as getting to the right place at the right time and above average vision make him one of the most versatile forwards in the draft.

11)Chicago – Zach Boychuk
One of my fave teams takes one of my fave players from this draft. Another two way forward that plays bigger than his 5’10 frame. Will compliment players like Toews & Kane, by contrast.

12)Anaheim – Kyle Beach
The Quacks are deep in young talent, and Burke seems to always take the player he feels is best on the board. Good fit for a project like Beach, who is talented but is a question mark due to the concussion he sustained. Gotta worry that his play slid substantially when he returned.

13)Buffalo – Luca Sbisa
After trading away Campbell, the Sabes look to gain some puck movers on the blueline. Sbisa is a nice story and his calm cool game on the backline makes him a solid prospect. Love his confidence and assertiveness.

14)Carolina – Zac Dalpe
Supposedly Rutherford is intent on taking a forward with the Canes 1st pick. Dalpe is a BCHL scorer that opened eyes at the world championships this Spring, I know the Canes would love to nab him, even if this seems early, his stock is hot right now.

15)Nashville – John Carlson
Another player who is also taking advantage of nice buzz, mainly due to his superior physical presence at the combine. A strong defender who has average skill, the Pred stake him on potential. He’ll spend some time in the OHL and learn, with their depth on D they can afford to wait.

16)Boston – Joe Colborne
Big player, big project. Seems like a slick playmaking forward but at this age its hard to tell if his size means anything. He hasn’t utilized it as of yet but he’s not playing against guys closer to his size. Once he does that will be his ultimate test. IMO, Boston is better off with one of the Dmen available at this point, but Colbornes size will be attractive to somebody.

17)Calgary – Mike Del Zotto
The deep Flames could use help at forward but defensive depth is an issue as well. Del Z could end up proving better than some of the D taken before him.

18)Ottawa – Chet Pickard
Tedenby is a consideration here, but the chance to take, in their mind, the best goalie available is too much to pass up. Personally, I go with Markstrom cause I feel he has the most potential to become a #1, but Pickard is not a bad gamble here.

19)Columbus – Josh Bailey
After strengthening the D corps, the Jackets look for some offense. Depth up the middle is never a bad thing, Brassard & Bailey could make a nice one two punch.

20)NY Rangers – Erik Karlsson
With Tedenby and Karlsson available I feel the Rangers go for the offensively gifted rearguard. His stock has climbed substantially and may be taken as early as #13 to Buffalo. I think our Euro scouts make the decision here to take a possible power play QB, regardless if Bobby Sangs is waiting in the wings. Jared Staal at this spot? I know he’s on the Rangers draft board, just not sure he’s higher than the two Swedes at this point.

21)NJ Devils – Jake Gardiner
The Devs are looking to bolster a once solid prospect pool. They need help in a lot of areas, taking a smooth skating Dman headed to the NCAA fits them like a glove. My guess is they take Gardiner over Ness who is also on their radar.

22)Edmonton – Colt Teubert
Opinions vary on Teubert, I see him as a Jovanoski type Dman, not sure if he has the offensive skills at the pro level, but he’s solid and gives his team a physical aspect on the blueline.

23)Washington – Anton Gustafsson
Gustafsson adds nice size and a strong two way game to the Center ice position. I can see them going with Tedenby as well here, but Gustafsson has size and the familiar family background for the Caps to make this pick.

24)Minnesota – Mattias Tedenby
Minnesota takes the BPA, and they would love to add scoring, and who doesn’t really. Tedenby is small but this is a Minny team that selected PM Bouchard as a first round pick and that paid off nicely.

25)Montreal – Nic Deschamps
The Habs have a nice stable of young prospects at all positions, they’ll take the BPA I think. Deschamps had a strong 2nd half to the season and theres a lot to like about him other than him being from French Canada – but that doesn’t hurt though as far as the Habs are concerned.

26)Buffalo – Jared Staal
The sabes have aot of bases covered on the prospect front, but size is lacking. Greg Nemisz is a consideration, but the Sabes go after what I and some others feel is one of the best late bloomers available. He’ll be a player, but will he be a standout?

27)Philly – Jacob Markstrom
Markstrom has the potential to be one of the best players taken in this draft, but he’s still very much a project, like almost all goalies this young. He has the raw skills that you like to see in young netminders Philly is deep in all areas but goalie, I think this is a good spot to be drafting one like Markstrom.

28)Los Angeles – Greg Nemisz
Looking for some size in their talented prospect depth chart. Nemisz projects to be a solid winger with goalscoring potential.

29)Atlanta – Jordan Eberle
The Thrash just look to add talented scorers to their prospect list. Doughty & Eberle would give them an A+ draft, IMO.

30)Detroit – Jiri Niemi
Defense wins championships. More directly, a mobile, puck moving defense wins championships as we’ve just seen. Niemi adapted well to the NA game and the Wings add a future PP specialist.


Top 5 picks for the #20 spot:

1)Erik Karlsson – D – 5’11 170 – Frolunda, Sweden
Excellent offensive skill and confidence with the puck. Reminds me of Zubov when I see him make those heads up passes. Once he physically matures I think he has the potential to be a very good PP QB.

2)Mattias Tedenby – W – 5’10 175 HV71, Sweden
I like the Mats Naslund comparisons. Small, skilled and always seems to be in the right place at the right time. Has great hands that very few in this draft possess.

3)Colton Teubert – D – 6’4 188 – Regina, WHL
Big, rangy stay at home who can make his presence felt in front of the net and along the boards. I think his offense is limited, but he can make a decent pass, just not sure of his decision making.

4)Kiril Petrov – W – 6’3 198 – Kazan, Russia
Big bodied forward who possesses nice skill and a heavy body, though I’m not sure how much of that is muscle. The contract issues and non transfer agreement are the only things keeping him from round one, but if our scouts like how he projects we could take him and worry about the legal stuff later.

5)Jared Staal – W 6’3 195 – Sudbury, OHL
I still think its not out of the realm to draft this big bodied winger at #20. He’s one of the youngest 90 birthdates and seems to be pregressing nicely into that huge frame. I think he’s only gonna get better as he comes from behind his brothers shadows. Don’t forget, even though they were drafted high, Jordan & Marc were also being underrated at the time of their drafts.



2nd round pick, #51 overall:

1)AJ Jenks – W – 6’2 200 Plymouth, OHL
Sather has drafted a lot of Michigan born players. This one has size, and even though he didn’t have a great year he did show spurts of a scorer who goes to the net with authority. He’ll go in the 2nd round, might not be at 51 when we pick.

2)Viktor Tikhonov – W – 6’2 187 Cherepovets, Russia
Tall rangy winger who showed up on the radar this year. Could be attractive to us since playing with Cherepanov and he’s a bit older than most in this draft so he may be ready sooner rather than later if he works out.

3)Dannik Paquette – W – 6’0 210 – Lewiston, QMJHL
Not the best of skaters but he’s tough as nails. Plays a scrappy offensive game and has no problems with throwing the punches. Not a bad skillset , has a good head for the game. Definite project but may be worth the investment.

4)Michael Stone – D – 6’3 200 – Calgary, WHL
Solid Dman, but nothing flashy. Just turned 18 this month, I think he has a higher ceiling than whats being projected.

5)Eric O’Dell – C – 6’0 177 - Sudbury, OHL
Offensive Center who puts up good numbers wherever he’s played. I think he’s one of the more underrated players coming into the draft.




Some players I like for later rounds:
Derek Stepan, Andre Petersson, Thomas Knoteck, Jacob Desarres, Bradon Holtby, Geordie Wudrick, Brent Raedeke, Anders Lee, Pat Mullane, Harry Young, Tomi Sallinen, Teemu Hartikainen, Josh Brittain, Greg Burke, Steve Quailer, Dominik Furch, Nick Lasu.


Hope you had a good read, and lets hope whoever we pick ends up being a part of our future Cup winner

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I hope we pick up Tikhonov. Good insight.

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A top notch draft preview....

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I see us nabbing Petrov in round 2.

He'll be our Anisimov this year -- hyped Russian who was a late 1st round prospect who fell to us in the 2nd.

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Great job on this Bluenote.

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Outstanding job again Bluenote.

Hard to argue with the mock draft you have up, because you back every pick so well.

I think it really depends on who goes before 20 as far as the Rangers are concerned. We might see them trade down because of it. Obviously we could see quite a few moves, but you can't really go into all that without totally confusing yourself.

Nice to see another well written article in our forum. It just reassures me that we have some really knowledgeable and realistic hockey minds in here who do a better job than most professional writers because the passion oozes out of their writing.

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Great preview...

let's see now if the Rangers pick at #20!

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let's see now if the Rangers pick at #20!
Agreed (on both counts). With the noise that Sather's making regarding all our free agents combined with our spot in the draft and the interesting players both above and below #20... I really smell trade here.

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Thanks for the kudos guys. This year i was out of watching prospects until I broke my ankle in February - that gave me at least 3 weeks in front of the TV and lucky for me some sympathy emails brought me game tapes from the various CHL teams & Junior tournaments, so I got to see plenty of footage.

I'm thinking that with such a buyers market these days maybe Slats will package the pick, but who knows, that man sure sticks to his guns when he makes up his mind.

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Great writeup Bluenote; I will admit though that I will be pretty upset if the Rangers take Karlsson or Staal at 20. Karlsson because IMO if I'm interested in a small, offensive Dman Ness (or ideally Del Zotto) would be a better pick. I know you have your feelings about Staal and I have mine, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

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Great writeup Bluenote; I will admit though that I will be pretty upset if the Rangers take Karlsson or Staal at 20. Karlsson because IMO if I'm interested in a small, offensive Dman Ness (or ideally Del Zotto) would be a better pick. I know you have your feelings about Staal and I have mine, so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

Seriously though good effort.
Theres a difference between Ness & Karlsson, even if its slight - Karlsson will grow over 6'0, I don't see that happening with Ness. A good player to measure Ness with is Alex Goligoski, who has done well for himself even though he's on the smaller side.

I know, alot of people hate me for showing so much support for Staal, but I just think he's more like Marc, avoid him cause he's had an unassuming career thus far but wait until he matures, he'll be a gamer.

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Theres a difference between Ness & Karlsson, even if its slight - Karlsson will grow over 6'0, I don't see that happening with Ness. A good player to measure Ness with is Alex Goligoski, who has done well for himself even though he's on the smaller side.

I know, alot of people hate me for showing so much support for Staal, but I just think he's more like Marc, avoid him cause he's had an unassuming career thus far but wait until he matures, he'll be a gamer.
I know you're big on Karlsson, but, the sense I get from what I've read is that the Rangers will target a D-man from the OHL.

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I know we'd be reaching for Staal, but I'd like to see us grab him in the 1st. I think that family has it going, and I don't think he'd be any different.

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I know you're big on Karlsson, but, the sense I get from what I've read is that the Rangers will target a D-man from the OHL.
Who Del Zotto? Maybe if he's still there. Or Adam Comrie in the 2nd round? Could be Cuma, he's not bad.

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if teubert is available i dont see any possible way the rangers let him go.

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Who Del Zotto? Maybe if he's still there. Or Adam Comrie in the 2nd round? Could be Cuma, he's not bad.
You've named them all. The Rangers haven't drafted a European D-man since Tyutin and Zvachin in 2001...just doesn't seem to be their pattern. If Del Zotto's not there, I want Dalpe. Otherwise, trade down to 28, get an extra 2nd round pick, and then take the gamble on Petrov.

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You've named them all. The Rangers haven't drafted a European D-man since Tyutin and Zvachin in 2001...just doesn't seem to be their pattern. If Del Zotto's not there, I want Dalpe. Otherwise, trade down to 28, get an extra 2nd round pick, and then take the gamble on Petrov.
Baranka, Furrer in 2003
Zidlicky was also in 2001

and since the 2003 draft we only drafted 6 other dmen period.

Sangs, Staal, Sauer, Flatt, Koverko, Paiemont

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Thanks for the kudos guys. This year i was out of watching prospects until I broke my ankle in February - that gave me at least 3 weeks in front of the TV and lucky for me some sympathy emails brought me game tapes from the various CHL teams & Junior tournaments, so I got to see plenty of footage.

I'm thinking that with such a buyers market these days maybe Slats will package the pick, but who knows, that man sure sticks to his guns when he makes up his mind.
Kudos?

I thought that word was retired when Russ Salzberg exited radio...

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Baranka, Furrer in 2003
Zidlicky was also in 2001

and since the 2003 draft we only drafted 6 other dmen period.

Sangs, Staal, Sauer, Flatt, Koverko, Paiemont
D'OH!!! Mind-fart...however, looking at that list, you can see why they've shied away from selecting Euro D-men, and why they need to add a D-man or two in this draft.

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great draft preview, very good read. I would love to pick up Tikhonov in the 2nd round

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D'OH!!! Mind-fart...however, looking at that list, you can see why they've shied away from selecting Euro D-men, and why they need to add a D-man or two in this draft.
actually I dont' see why they shied away from selecting Euro dman... out of the 5 they selected 2 are in the NHL, and the other is NHL calaber and should be playing in the NHL... that's 40-60% odds....

now look at the NA players... 11 drafted from 2001 on Sangs, Staal, Sauer, Flatt, Koverko, Paeimont, Potter, Reese, Guenin, Taylor, Lampman.... only Staal is in the NHL... Sangs and Sauer get to the NHL and Potter could become a regular... that's at best 4 out of 11... which is less than 40%.... the Rangers actually have a better record at drafting Euro Dmen as of recent.

note i'm not talking about players who have played in a handful of NHL games.... I'm talking about players who are regulars, or could become regulars.

but I do agree that they need to draft at least one dman... one in 1st or 2nd... than one in 6th or 7th

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Nicely done.

Won't be too happy if we take Jared Staal in the first though. But that's just me.

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Nicely done.

Won't be too happy if we take Jared Staal in the first though. But that's just me.
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