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06-24-2008, 01:18 AM
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What is the strongest single piece stick out there???

and others that are also strong...

also what are some weak ones to watch out for?

im going to be gettin new sticks soon more than likely.

im talking about one piece composite sticks.


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A woodie. Or those old first Easton aluminums.

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i guess i didnt word my question that well, i meant strongest single piece composite stick

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Things to consider when purchasing your composite stick...

- Flex rating on the shaft
- Your body weight
- Skill level


When I bought mine, I was at the store for a good hour talking with the guy in the hockey department...he helped me pick a stick based on the factors I mentioned above, and I have probably 60 games under the stick, still hasn't broken.

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Your bodyweight has nothing to do with you buying a stick, unless you're actually not able to skate and support yourself on it. It's all personal preference really.

I remember the Bauer VI was a tank, it's a couple of years old though. Perhaps the Bauer Endure, but they're a bit old as well? Otherwise, if you are really worried about stick breakage get yourself a two-piece, preferably short hosel. Most one-piece sticks are just fused anyways so it'd be more or less the same thing.

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Low-end composites have the best durability because they are made of a higher concentration of fiberglass as opposed to carbon fiber and graphite.

Getting a stick with a very high flex rating lowers the chances of it being broken while taking a shot or getting slashed, but it might not be right for your capabilities.

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and others that are also strong...

also what are some weak ones to watch out for?

im going to be gettin new sticks soon more than likely.

im talking about one piece composite sticks.
Warrior Dolomite is one of, if not the most durable high performing sticks.

When spending the money on a one piece composite you should look for a good balance of performance and durability. I think the Dolomite offers the perfect mix.

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i guess i didnt word my question that well, i meant strongest single piece composite stick
THERE we go. Now it's answerable. I heard there was this one Bauer stick that was pretty durable but I can't remember it.

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Your bodyweight has nothing to do with you buying a stick, unless you're actually not able to skate and support yourself on it. It's all personal preference really.
I disagree. Depending on your weight and technique, each person will lean on a stick much differently during a slapshot. You do want to pay attention to flex when buying a stick.

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Low-end composites have the best durability because they are made of a higher concentration of fiberglass as opposed to carbon fiber and graphite.

Getting a stick with a very high flex rating lowers the chances of it being broken while taking a shot or getting slashed, but it might not be right for your capabilities.
The TPS R2XN10 have gone through hell and back. Definitely not low-end.

As for the flex, I'd wonder if a lower-flex might be better to a certain degree. A stick holding up to a slash would seem to have very little to do with whether it has a high flex level. But maybe a whippier stick is more so like cooked spaghetti, and a stiff stick would be like uncooked -- the cooked noodle does a better job of not snapping underpressure obviously.

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I disagree. Depending on your weight and technique, each person will lean on a stick much differently during a slapshot. You do want to pay attention to flex when buying a stick.



The TPS R2XN10 have gone through hell and back. Definitely not low-end.

As for the flex, I'd wonder if a lower-flex might be better to a certain degree. A stick holding up to a slash would seem to have very little to do with whether it has a high flex level. But maybe a whippier stick is more so like cooked spaghetti, and a stiff stick would be like uncooked -- the cooked noodle does a better job of not snapping underpressure obviously.
The XN10s are things of legend though, lol. I think they are making them again, but not sure if they are using the same factory. Hope so.

Great point on the lower-flex withstanding a slash better. They may. Although the whippier one may reach it's breaking point faster.

I know one of the reasons a lot of defenseman use stiffer flexes is because they take a bit more of a beating. Not as good for shooting though which is why you see a good number of them use a lower flex for the PP.

that's a good point.

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The One90s are pretty good. The Bauer Endure is made for durability. And going a little cheaper, the One70s and 50s are pretty darn durable as well.

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From my own personal experience the Easton Synergy SL and ST have both been really good for me super durable and good performance. The Vapor XXX lite is a stick I would not recomend as far as durability which is a shame cause it's one of the best feelings sticks I've ever owned, I went through two of them in less then a month.

Based on what I've heard and seen the Dolemite has come up when talking about sticks with good durability. From what I've seen from the Easton Stealth they snap easily where they taper down.

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Agreed, the Synergy ST's are built very well. They are heavier than the SL but I've broken a few of the SL's.

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The One90s are pretty good. The Bauer Endure is made for durability. And going a little cheaper, the One70s and 50s are pretty darn durable as well.
THAT'S WHAT I MEANT, the Bauer Endure.

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The One90s are pretty good. The Bauer Endure is made for durability. And going a little cheaper, the One70s and 50s are pretty darn durable as well.
I've heard good things about both the One70 and One50 from our customers. Same with the TPS R2 and R4. The R1 is durable but really top heavy.

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this might be a dumb question, but ive been using my synergys for a while now because i just keep replacing the blade on them, however lately ive noticed them flexing easier.. one stick is an 85 flex and the other is 100... ive had them both for a couple years or so..

my question is... are they getting weaker allowing them to flex more due to so much use over time? or is that even possible.. id think it is but idk.

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Your bodyweight has nothing to do with you buying a stick, unless you're actually not able to skate and support yourself on it. It's all personal preference really.

I remember the Bauer VI was a tank, it's a couple of years old though. Perhaps the Bauer Endure, but they're a bit old as well? Otherwise, if you are really worried about stick breakage get yourself a two-piece, preferably short hosel. Most one-piece sticks are just fused anyways so it'd be more or less the same thing.
Weight, skill level and types of shots do matter.

Are you trying to tell me that someone weighing 175 lbs, with a low skill level taking a slap shot is the same someone weighing 200 lbs that played AAA taking a slap shot?

You think their likely to put the same amount of torque on the stick???

The lighter weight less skilled player would benefit with a stick with more flex, where as the heavier more skilled guy would be more likely to snap the stick.

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this might be a dumb question, but ive been using my synergys for a while now because i just keep replacing the blade on them, however lately ive noticed them flexing easier.. one stick is an 85 flex and the other is 100... ive had them both for a couple years or so..

my question is... are they getting weaker allowing them to flex more due to so much use over time? or is that even possible.. id think it is but idk.
yes, even composites go flat, but they will do so after much longer period of use compared to wood sticks.

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I disagree. Depending on your weight and technique, each person will lean on a stick much differently during a slapshot. You do want to pay attention to flex when buying a stick.
Yes, flex is pretty darn important, if not the most important thing when you buy your stick. But it's more about your shooting technique and strength than your weight. Heck, I'm a 200lbs guy who prefer 77flex sticks

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one thing that hasnt been mentioned yet is the position you play, personally when I play centre and take 10-20 faceoffs a game i go through alot more sticks then when i am playing the wing.

my personal new preference for both quality and durability is the TPS Rubber Response, i use a stiff flex for games i play centre and a mid flex (i think it would be around 90ish maybe) for all other situations.

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this might be a dumb question, but ive been using my synergys for a while now because i just keep replacing the blade on them, however lately ive noticed them flexing easier.. one stick is an 85 flex and the other is 100... ive had them both for a couple years or so..

my question is... are they getting weaker allowing them to flex more due to so much use over time? or is that even possible.. id think it is but idk.
Yeah I've had this happen before they just turn into noodles but it's notbad when you can have a stick last that long

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one thing that hasnt been mentioned yet is the position you play, personally when I play centre and take 10-20 faceoffs a game i go through alot more sticks then when i am playing the wing.

my personal new preference for both quality and durability is the TPS Rubber Response, i use a stiff flex for games i play centre and a mid flex (i think it would be around 90ish maybe) for all other situations.
Very true.

As a 200lb man defenseman, I opt for the more stiff flex due to the hacking and grinding along the boards and for the big shot from the point.

Although, I went from a one piece composite to a 2-piece last season and preferred the change.

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The sticks with grip on them have lasted longer for me than when they are not grip. I was a big fan of the SL's and the red 1 would last much longer than the blue 1.

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The sticks with grip on them have lasted longer for me than when they are not grip. I was a big fan of the SL's and the red 1 would last much longer than the blue 1.
Actually since you mentioned every grip stick I've had has lasted longer then any stick I've had without grip, maybe it's worth the extra $20 to go with grip...

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I used two Endures for a year and they practically look new. Even the blades, and lost no stiffness. Of course, they're way stiffer than the flex rating...

Runner up is the Dolomite. I have one and my roommate has one, used for several months, no signs of damage or wear. Tanks, but much better performance than the Endure.

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