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06-26-2008, 09:58 AM
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The future of the habs (Prospect talks)

Trevor Timmins was great in 2007. Max Pac, Mcdonagh & Subban as our first 3 picks

Pacioretty seems to developpe as a power winger, Madonagh as a top 3 D-man and Subban as a powerplay QB

In the future I would like to see a third line of : Pacioretty-Chipchura-Higgins

But we are at least one year away to see Pacioretty on our hockey club.

Projecting role:

Pacioretty: Power Forward, Second Line Winger (Higgins with more size and strengh ?) (2 years away?)
McDonagh : Top 3 D-Man (Another Hamrlik ?) (Two years away?)
Chipchura : Third Line Center (PK Specialist), NHL ready, defensive player, bring leadership and good attitude along with deceptive playmaking habilities.
Maxwell : Upside: Second Line center (60 pts / season), one years away of the NHL
Halak: Top 15-35 NHL goalie, NHL ready
Subban : Offensive D-man (Another Mark Streit?), Bring good attitude, very vocal, bring leadership, another two-three years away from NHL
Valentenko: NHL d-man, gonna have some time next season, Almost NHL Ready, Improved a lot last year
O'Byrne : Top 5-6 D-man, gonna be a regular in 2008
White : Bottom Two Line forward, bring energy, two years away
Carle : Top 4 d-man, one years away from NHL
Grabovski : Very hard to predict. May be done as a habs but may explode with another club, May return in Europe too...Right traded to T.O in exchance of Sundin's right?
Stewart : Energy 4 lines winger (Another Begin ?)
D'agostini : good hockey sense.. no major weaknesses. Almost NHL ready
Fischer: Top 6 NHL d-man... Gorges with more size? Future hard to predict. He is a project. Another NCAA year and maybe two AHL years away from NHL
Webber : I don't really know him but he has good upside too

Others prospects: Emelin, Trotter, Kristo, Milroy, Locke, Wyman etc. etc.

Prospect graduated in the last years:

Phase 1- Markov

Phase 2 -Komisarek, Higgins, Plekanec (Perezhogin)

Phase 3 -Latendresse, Lapierre, Halak

Phase 4 -Kostitsyn, Kostitsyn Jr, Price, O'byrne (Grabovski)

Next projecting Phases
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Phase 5 -Chipchura, Valentenko?, Stewart?, D'agostini?

Phase 6 -Maxwell, Carle

Phase 7- Pacioretty, Mcdo, Subban?

Phase 8- Fischer, White, Webber?

Of course, some players gonna left because we cannot have more than 20 on ice players

Tanguay, Koivu, Kovalev, Markov, Hamrlik are our older players. They may be gone in the next years (2-3-4-5 years ???)

Some players gonna be traded too.. Plekanec? Higgins? Prospects?


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06-26-2008, 10:13 AM
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Maxwell : Second Line center (60 pts / season), one years away

Really? A 60pts-season?

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Maxwell : Second Line center (60 pts / season), one years away

Really? A 60pts-season?
If he can get stronger and avoid injuries, yes, absolutely! Maxwell is a talented player and I think he will surprise a lot of people.

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06-26-2008, 10:20 AM
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Maxwell : Second Line center (60 pts / season), one years away

Really? A 60pts-season?
Why not???

I think he is one years away of NHL with upside of 25 goals, 60 pts

It's may take a few years to reach that but I confident he will if he got the chances

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Nice to hear,we have plenty of prospects...

Good post btw

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I think Maxwell can be a number one center in the mould of Brad Richards.

That's me personally.

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06-26-2008, 10:25 AM
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O'Byrne : Top 5-6 D-man, gonna be a regular in 2008
I think people underestimate O'Byrne, this guy skates realy well, he turns fast, he's big and he got a good one-timer, i think we could see him next year on the PP second waive. He could become more physical, and showed some hip hits that were falshes of Komisarek this year. I think he will be our 4th d next year, alternate with Georges. He needs experience, that's all.

But good post yeah.

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06-26-2008, 10:27 AM
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I think Torp if his injury hasn't ****ed up his development, can be a good D at the NHL level.

I was impressed with him at the u-18 the year he was drafted.

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He already have a webpage!!

http://benmaxwell.com/

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I'd like to see Higgins scoring enough goals while playing a solid two way game that he doesn't get relegated to 3rd line duties in 2 years from now and end up on a line with Pac and Chip.........

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I think people underestimate O'Byrne, this guy skates realy well, he turns fast, he's big and he got a good one-timer, i think we could see him next year on the PP second waive. He could become more physical, and showed some hip hits that were falshes of Komisarek this year. I think he will be our 4th d next year, alternate with Georges. He needs experience, that's all.

But good post yeah.
I also very like O'byrne but because he is behind Komisarek, Markov and Hamrlik along with Mcdonagh potential, I don't see him getting the chances to be more than a bottom 3 d-man.. Which is not bad, tough

But you're right, he is gonna be our number 4 next season if streit doesn't resign..

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I'd like to see Higgins scoring enough goals while playing a solid two way game that he doesn't get relegated to 3rd line duties in 2 years from now and end up on a line with Pac and Chip.........
But I wanted us to have 3 very good line! I am a big Higgins fan. I think that if we need to put him on our 3rd line, it's going to be more because of our depth.

Chipchura can be the defensive specialist
Higgins can be the guy that going hard in the corner and bring offensive punch to our 3rd line
Pacioretty can be the rookie. He can bring energy. He can play a power game

But I guess that Higgins would prefer to be on the first line... LOL


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I also very like O'byrne but because he is behind Komisarek, Markov and Hamrlik along with Mcdonagh potentiel, I don't see him getting the chances to be more than a bottom 3 d-man.. Which is still not bad.

But you're right, he is gonna our number 4 if streit don't resign..

Komi-Mark
Obyrne-Hammer
Bouillon-Gorges
Extra: dandy (or Valentenko), and Brisebois if he return



But I wanted us to have 3 very good line! I am a big Higgins fan. I think that if we need to put him on our 3rd line, it's going to be more because of our depth.

Chipchura can be the defensive specialist
Higgins can be the guy that going hard in the corner and bring offensive punch to our 3rd line
Pacioretty can be the rookie. He can bring energy. He can play a power game

But I guess that Higgins would prefer to be on the first line... LOL
Chp is rather good in the corners coming out distributing the puck. Those three would be hard to play against. Im not sold on Chip's skating yet

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Chp is rather good in the corners coming out distributing the puck. Those three would be hard to play against. Im not sold on Chip's skating yet
Chip's skating is not very good but he has improved since the last couple of years! It's still not great but I think that Chip gonna be just fine.

He never was very quick in junior but was very effective! I expect the samething here in the NHL because he is smart to overcame his skating issues

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O'Byrne : Top 5-6 D-man, gonna be a regular in 2008
O'Bryne to me will be much better than bottom pairing...to me...he's a future #2 maybe #3 defenseman.

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O'Bryne to me will be much better than bottom pairing...to me...he's a future #2 maybe #3 defenseman.
Agreed, but more of a 3-4 than a 2-3.

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Why not???

I think he is one years away of NHL with upside of 25 goals, 60 pts

It's may take a few years to reach that but I confident he will if he got the chances
Nice to see the optimism on this board!!
Maxwell is talented, but no way will he make the Habs in one year, maybe not two.
let's see what he does in Hamilton first.

Do wish him the best, but realistically, he has a way to go.

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Subban will be the next Markov.. only faster!!! and harder hitting!!!!

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lol Tanguay is 2 year older than Komisarek and he's old?

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lol Tanguay is 2 year older than Komisarek and he's old?
Tanguay's contract expires in one year if I am not mistaken! Am I? I think Komi gonna be with us much more longer..


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Tanguay's contract expires in one year if I am not mistaken! Am I? I think Komi gonna with us much more longer..
Both Gainey and Tanguay have already mentioned an extension.

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lol Tanguay is 2 year older than Komisarek and he's old?
The Komisaurus is 108528576489736 years old

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To me we now have 3 potential gritty winger in Higgins, Latendress and Pacioretty to add to this mixture we have 3 finesse winger in S.Kostsitsyn, A.Kostsitsyn and A.Tanguay. Maxwell will eventually take Saku's place and Chipchura will end up a fixture on our third line. So realy do not see us putting all our eggs in the same basket.... I see us spreading the grit and finesse...

Pacioretty, Plekanek, A. Kostsitsyn
Higgins, Chipchura, S.Kostsitsyn
Tanguay, Maxwell, Latendresse

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Agreed, but more of a 3-4 than a 2-3.
he is top 4 all day long, i am a little surprised anyone would project him as 5-6 D, he is going to be good this season and we will see some changes of heart.

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I think Maxwell can be a number one center in the mould of Brad Richards.

That's me personally.
That would be outstanding, I personally don't see it but then again he's missed so much time it's hard for me to really say what his upside is, how his development will be effected by missing a full year. He sure can skate though, nice speed and offensive skills, he's so passive though. I really can't wait to see what he can do in hamilton this year, should be fun to see how he does.

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Nice to see the optimism on this board!!
Maxwell is talented, but no way will he make the Habs in one year, maybe not two.
let's see what he does in Hamilton first.

Do wish him the best, but realistically, he has a way to go.
He will need players who can do something with his passes. If he plays with weiners he wont develop. Will there be skill players in Hamilton? He already is a skilled defensive player. How does Trotter fit in here?

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