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Todd Bertuzzi on Waivers [cleared waivers]

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06-27-2008, 12:17 PM
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Unfortunately, we don't really have a choice.
Neither did we but we weren't restricted by the cap, just no one would sign with us except Sheldon Number 1 Defenseman Souray.

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I love how some Oiler fans always bring Penner into the mix. Just shut up about it. It's over. "OMG PENNER IZ BETTAR!" "BURK IZ STOOPID!"
"Oilers are dirty ********". Oh, wait, that was Burke. I guess he hasn't got the memo that "it's over".

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06-27-2008, 12:18 PM
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The Islanders can use a LW and Center and the Ducks can use cap space how about Bertuzzi and Marchant and a 2nd rounder for Islanders 3rd

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06-27-2008, 12:19 PM
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The Islanders can use a LW and Center and the Ducks can use cap space how about Bertuzzi and Marchant and a 2nd rounder for Islanders 3rd
Where do I sign?!

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06-27-2008, 12:19 PM
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I didn't think this would happen, but I'm not surprised, either.

Nobody will pick him up on waivers. Nobody would pay $4 million for a sulking, moody, 30-something power forward with streaky production and a broken down body. (Back problems in 2006-07, and I think a concussion last year). He had one sensational stretch in January with 12 points in six games. Outside of that, he was good for 28 points in 62 games.

He'll go through waivers, and get bought out, but somebody will give him a chance as a reclamation project. At best, he can still be a rugged presence on a second line, and a force in front of the net on the power play. At worst, he could be a mobile physical presence and a strong forechecker, with some offensive touch, on the fourth line.

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06-27-2008, 12:20 PM
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I hate the Ducks, but Kevin Lowe still sucks. Penner is not worth 4 million and Pitkanen for Lupol and Smith is a horrible trade.

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Enough with the personal shots. Some of you earned a timeout from this thread for your actions within it. Debate posts points, not posters nor fanbases. Got it?

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Yes, but that is way out of our control. Don't blame us Duck fans for it.
Not blaming you, but you do seem to be holding fans on hockey messageboards to a higher standard of conduct than a GM. The GM should be the professional, mature one, but he's not. So you can't reasonably expect more out of random people on the internet.

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06-27-2008, 12:21 PM
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Call me crazy but I could see an offensively downtrodden team like Florida or the New York Islanders offering Naslund and Morrison one year contracts and claiming Bertuzzi. Setting aside the lack of fan support and serious contention, trying to rehabilitate your image around the NHL, playing with your old linemates where there are very little expectations, and hanging out in South Beach for a year is not a bad life.

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06-27-2008, 12:22 PM
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Let's see, which one is bigger mistake:

Signing Bertuzzi as an UFA for 2 years or trading for 2 months of Bertuzzi and giving up a blue-chip prospect for him.

I'll take Ken Holland for 500$, Alex.
1) He wasn't a blue chip prospect. And he wasnt gonna make Detroit like he will make Florida.

2) when you have forward depth and a pipeline that can support it, it really isnt that bad.

3) 4 Stanley Cups in 11 years, 100 pts + a season, and cap room to resign all star young players.

yes yes, Holland really screwed the pooch on that one.

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06-27-2008, 12:22 PM
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Well, go ahead. Lets see how the supposedly grievous mistakes stack up against a Stanley Cup.

Yet again, a thread mentioning the name "Burke" gets turned into an absolutely useless crap fest.


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06-27-2008, 12:23 PM
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Let's see, which one is bigger mistake:

Signing Bertuzzi as an UFA for 2 years or trading for 2 months of Bertuzzi and giving up a blue-chip prospect for him.

I'll take Ken Holland for 500$, Alex.
At the time, Matthias was not considered a blue-chip prospect. He really came into his own last season.

And if there's one GM who gets a pass for a bad signing or a bad late-season rental trade, it's the best GM in hockey, Kenny Holland. (Burke would be No. 3 or 4 on that list, but right now, Holland's as good as it gets).

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06-27-2008, 12:25 PM
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I guess the NHL wants Anaheim to rid themselves of all their criminals.

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06-27-2008, 12:26 PM
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I agree with this. I do think Burke panicked a bit when it looked like Selanne and Niedermayer were not going to come back. The Schneider signing wasn't so bad because he actually did well for the Ducks when he played; the problem was that when Niedermayer did come back it created a cap situation. The Bertuzzi signing---I never did like. It was an overpayment for a player who was questionable physically and hadn't really performed for that type of salary since before the lockout.

Thank god the Wings didnt sign Schneider and Bertuzzi id take Rafalski over both of them combined..

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06-27-2008, 12:28 PM
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I know theres no chance in hell of it happening, but does anyone else think Bertuzzi with Crosby would be fun to watch?

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They should've traded him to Calgary for Kipprusoff.

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06-27-2008, 12:29 PM
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Let's see, which one is bigger mistake:

Signing Bertuzzi as an UFA for 2 years or trading for 2 months of Bertuzzi and giving up a blue-chip prospect for him.

I'll take Ken Holland for 500$, Alex.
When I read this, I laughed, and then I cried.

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06-27-2008, 12:30 PM
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If you want to talk about karma, you'd better watch out for your young RFAs.


Please, PLEASE OS them. Please. At the level required to make us not match, we'd get more draft picks than we would from trading them, AND we'd get cap space. What a terrible consequence!

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06-27-2008, 12:31 PM
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If you want to talk about karma, you'd better watch out for your young RFAs.
RFA offer sheets against the Oilers... 6....

RFA offer sheets by the Oilers 2.... 1 successful.

I think we're cool with Karma.

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Wow, Burke is getting desperate to clear room.

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So glad the Wings didn't gamble on bringing him back...

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I don't get why everyone thinks Burke is a good GM, he ran the Canucks into the ground, took over the solid foundation Murray had built, now he's running the Ducks into the ground

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I don't get why everyone thinks Burke is a good GM, he ran the Canucks into the ground, took over the solid foundation Murray had built, now he's running the Ducks into the ground
You skipped a pretty important detail...

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06-27-2008, 12:43 PM
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I don't see why people are getting on Burke's case (yet). If he can somehow get rid of Bertuzzi without losing anything, what exactly has he lost? He basically signed him for free and got nothing back for him. I would sort of call that even.

I am going to guess somebody will take a chance on his 1 year deal(if nothing else they can trade him at the deadline for a decent package)

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