They could have given him $3.5 for the same amount of time, if not longer, and I'm convinced he would have taken it. He didn't really have any power here.
Do you think NHL GMs are that stupid? They have negotiations for a reason, there is no way Carter would've taken $3.5M. If the Flyers didn't come up with this number, some other team would've on July 1st. I have no qualms that Carter will be worth $5M, the only problem is the contract is way too short.
I agree, i guess they were very afraid to lose him.
I personally think Holmgren started negotiating around $3.5M per on a 3 year deal, then Carter's agent Rick Curran made a big fuss about potentially looking for an offer sheet on July 1st. I think Holmgren caved into Curran's demand, as he'd rather have Carter signed to this deal and be able to trade him, rather than having to match the max offer for two 1sts, one 2nd, and one 3rd. If Carter went to July 1st unsigned, I have very little doubt that he would've been offered the max compensation without giving up four 1st rounders.
I think this deal means that Carter is probably traded before this contract is over.
ya i would be scared to lose him too...he's a solid player with good size...but for 5 mil....thats way too much...sign a guy like mike richards for that much not carter....id say carter should be making more like 3 mil
Last edited by Beakermania*: 06-27-2008 at 11:01 PM.
The $5M isn't the bad part about the contract, it's the lack of years. For $5M, this contract should've been at least 6 years.
"At least" 6 years?
For $5M, they needed to lock him up 5-6 years. But not anymore than that. The super-long deals are just dumb ways for teams to get handcuffed with guaranteed contracts.
A 2-year contract at around $3.5M would have been fine too if they love him so much.
I think this deal was influenced, indirectly, by what's been going on with the Flyers for a year. They opened up the vault on the hideous Brière deal. Then they made further use of Vaseline for the crappy Mike Richards deal.
My guess is that at some point during the season (possibly at the same time as Mike Richards) the Flyers and Carter were negociating a super-long deal. But somewhere along the process, things changed for one or both parties. The figure ($5M) stood, but the length was reduced to three years.
I think this is a generous amount for Carter. A clear win for him. If he bombs, he's overpaid. If he performs up to expectations, next time around he is in even stronger bargaining position. He'd have to mature a hell of a lot to be worth $15M over the next three years.