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Avery on the market early; seeking 4yrs/$16m

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06-29-2008, 04:38 AM
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Avery on the market early; seeking 4yrs/$16m

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Slap Shots has learned that Sather late last week granted permission to Avery's agent, Pat Morris, to negotiate with any interested NHL team in advance of Tuesday's official opening of the free-agent market.

Sources confirm that not only is that process under way, but that four or five teams have indicated their interest in signing Avery to a contract well in excess of the last deal proffered by Sather to No. 16. It's believed the Rangers have come in at approximately $1M a year less than the four-year, $16M deal Avery is seeking and will be able to get.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/06292008...acy_117745.htm

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I honestly hate the guy, but I can admit that he's somewhat usefull... at 2.5 / 3 M a year max.

4M is overpayment.

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I like Avery.. but that's way too much to pay him. I just hope the Sharks aren't dumb enough to offer him that kind of money.

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He'll get that from a se team looking to meet the basement and publicity. No self respecting team would sign him.

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Avery was nice to have on NYR, but the overpayments got to stop somewhere. Avery has to show that he deserves a $4 million salary before claiming he should have it. Intangibles are only worth _that_ much more, it's statistics that gives the dough.

He will get it on open market though, as UFA:s are per definition overpaid.

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I think he will be happy with $3M a year.

That $4M a year is plain nuts and he knows that too.

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If Carter can get 5 million a year, Avery surely can get 4.

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He will get it on open market though, as UFA:s are per definition overpaid.
Wouldn't UFAs by definition be market priced (and not overpaid)?

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4mill year--he will sign for 2.5---he does not get signed for his mouth

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He'll get that from a se team looking to meet the basement and publicity. No self respecting team would sign him.
What team in the SE division is in danger of not meeting the salary floor right now?

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What team in the SE division is in danger of not meeting the salary floor right now?
Atlanta needs to add about $12m, but that's really it. I'm sure they'll throw some money at someone over the hill that isn't the answer.

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I think he will be happy with $3M a year.

That $4M a year is plain nuts and he knows that too.
The article says that NYR already offered him $3M a year.

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06-29-2008, 07:22 AM
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avery is easily worth 4 mil per , hes a good skater , smart , good passer , rugged ,goes into all high traffic areas including net front scoring work , puts up at least 20 goals , plus fights and disrupts . and if you were to look at all the forwards being paid around and over 3 mil to around or over 4 mil hes way more valuable than prob %90 of them . ide sign avery to a 4 x 4 in a second .

plus the poor guy is the target of every team he plays and is constantly being hit and after plays being pushed around by guys from every direction and deals with all of it with his average / small size body making it obvious hes a very energized and rugged individual . and i hope he goes to a team that knows what theyre doing , as opposed to dunce slather and company , whom give him a big bodied tough line mate to help him deal with all the scrums so he doent get as banged up / wore out .

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avery is easily worth 4 mil per , hes a good skater , smart , good passer , rugged ,goes into all high traffic areas including net front scoring work , puts up at least 20 goals , plus fights and disrupts .
There is no way that Sean Avery is worth $4M per. That is an overpayment for sure. That said, with some teams trying to meet the floor, I could see him getting close to it unfortunately.

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There is no way that Sean Avery is worth $4M per. That is an overpayment for sure. That said, with some teams trying to meet the floor, I could see him getting close to it unfortunately.
If players like Jeff Carter can get 5 million per and only playing in the league for 3 years and not recording a PPG then anything is possible.

The Flyers are helping drive up salaries once again...Briere, Richards and now Carter.

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Atlanta needs to add about $12m, but that's really it. I'm sure they'll throw some money at someone over the hill that isn't the answer.
You should worry more about signing Huet, or some semblance of a starting goaltender before you start taking shots at other teams. I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up in Colorado.

For $4 million/year I would want part ownership of his new fashion line as well

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The Flyers are helping drive up salaries once again...Briere, Richards and now Carter.
Didn't Montreal offer Briere more money?

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If his off ice issues were not so distracting and serious then I wouldnt think 4 million for a guy like Avery would have been overpayment.

Reason. There are many players that are important to their teams in more ways than just putting points on the board. Avery is a rare breed of players with speed, skill and top notch agitating ability. He was one of New York's best players in the playoffs, and even though he's constantly the target of other teams in game situation, he doesnt let it affect his on-ice play. He'll agitate and score to add the icing on the cake. He manages to have the last laugh more times than not. If he was not so distracting in terms of off-ice issues, then I wouldnt have mind giving him a 4 million contract, albeit on a three year deal instead of 4, as I also think he'll start wearing down ala Darcy Tucker in Toronto.

That being said, I dont ever want to see him play for my Leafs.

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Didn't Montreal offer Briere more money?
Yup. And some teams would've been quite willing to give Carter more than 5M.

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Yup. And some teams would've been quite willing to give Carter more than 5M.
Shh! I wanted him to answer so I could point out the hypocrisy.

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I honestly hate the guy, but I can admit that he's somewhat usefull... at 2.5 / 3 M a year max.

4M is overpayment.

3M probably keeps him in NYC

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Yup. And some teams would've been quite willing to give Carter more than 5M.
Offered him 0.5M$ more but in 2 less years...the Flyers offered him 8 years which is ridiculous, although 6 years is ridiculous too for Briere.

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If his off ice issues were not so distracting and serious then I wouldnt think 4 million for a guy like Avery would have been overpayment.
What off ice issues? He really hasn't had any off ice issues since coming to NY?

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The scuttle has been that Shanny and Jagr kept Avery in line. Sather may be cluing us in to the fact that neither will be Rangers next year.

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A contract with any term longer than 1 year for guys like Avery just scares me. I worry that he will be too complacent with his side show act (on and off the ice).

But players deserve some type of stability. I will not be disappointed if the Rangers sign him for $4m/4yrs. It sounds like a lot now but don't forget, they way the NHL is going, the cap is going to be ~$70m in 4 years.

Whoever gets Avery, he definitely has his strong points. Better hockey player than most think, and when he is in full pest mode he is near unstoppable.

But that Avery only shows up 50% of the time. If the other players don't bite, or if he's having an off night, he looks like any other dime a dozen 3rd line winger.

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