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02-21-2004, 07:36 PM
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Morozov's a soft, soft soft player who lived off of Lemieux's empty net passes.

He's not a good player.

Oh and the Sedin's are real goons arent they?

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02-21-2004, 07:41 PM
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Oh and the Sedin's are real goons arent they?
They put up points with Wade Brookbank, Jarkko Ruutu and Mike Keane as their linemates.

Morozov played with Lemieux and was good, he stinks now. Too soft.

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02-21-2004, 08:03 PM
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They put up points with Wade Brookbank, Jarkko Ruutu and Mike Keane as their linemates.

Morozov played with Lemieux and was good, he stinks now. Too soft.
Even though his play has dropped off dramatically, he still hasn't cryed after a hard check through the glass. Perhaps Vancouver's problem's would be better solved by trading the twins?

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They put up points with Wade Brookbank, Jarkko Ruutu and Mike Keane as their linemates.

Morozov played with Lemieux and was good, he stinks now. Too soft.


Morozov also put up points without Lemieux the last 2 years. Lemieux says that he likes to play with Morozov because he is creative offensively .

Morozov and Malone are the only 2 offensive threats on the team. Watch a Pens game some night. Morozov is attacked from the drop of the puck by the other teams best defensive forwards. He gets zero room. If there was any other talent that teams had to focus on, Morozov would have double his current output!

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Morozov also put up points without Lemieux the last 2 years. Lemieux says that he likes to play with Morozov because he is creative offensively .

Morozov and Malone are the only 2 offensive threats on the team. Watch a Pens game some night. Morozov is attacked from the drop of the puck by the other teams best defensive forwards. He gets zero room. If there was any other talent that teams had to focus on, Morozov would have double his current output!
I agree....but dont even bother to reply to this guy. He is ignorant of Morozov's game and has yet to respond to people who have refuted his blatantly uninformed posts.
Thus=TROLL

And I wonder if the Sedin's would put up those points without Naslund,Bert or Mo in the line up having to face the oppositions top checkers and defensive pairing.....hmmmm

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02-21-2004, 08:11 PM
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They put up points with Wade Brookbank, Jarkko Ruutu and Mike Keane as their linemates.

Morozov played with Lemieux and was good, he stinks now. Too soft.
I find it funny that people compare the Sedins as if they are just one player. To say Morozov suck when not playing with a top line player but the Sedins can put up some numbers seems absurd. There are two Sedins, and they have each other to play off of, so it's not really a good comparison, now is it.

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02-21-2004, 08:12 PM
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I find it funny that people compare the Sedins as if they are just one player. To say Morozov suck when not playing with a top line player but the Sedins can put up some numbers seems absurd. There are two Sedins, and they have each other to play off of, so it's not really a good comparison, now is it.
The Sedins are amazing players. Everyone in the league wishes they had these two gems.

Same with Sopel.

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02-21-2004, 08:24 PM
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I agree....but dont even bother to reply to this guy. He is ignorant of Morozov's game and has yet to respond to people who have refuted his blatantly uninformed posts.
Thus=TROLL

And I wonder if the Sedin's would put up those points without Naslund,Bert or Mo in the line up having to face the oppositions top checkers and defensive pairing.....hmmmm
Don't waste your time wondering. They wouldn't, couldn't. Why, because they need a RW, right? A solid checking RW and those 2 would not only make a better offensive combination, but could cut the GA in half..

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02-21-2004, 08:35 PM
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The Sedins are amazing players. Everyone in the league wishes they had these two gems.

Same with Sopel.
and what dose that have to do with my post?

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Being a Canucks fan, and considering the trades that have been made up to this point in the season, I would like to see the following:

Canucks get: Morozov, Bergevin
Pens get: Umberger, 3rd (2005) or Fedorov

I think that Morozov would be a player who could fit well either with the Sedins or even with Naslund and Morrison, I would never expect him to be a superstar or even a star, but I think he would make a good complimentary player.

Would like to see Vancouver lines as:

Naslund-Morrison-Morozov/Bertuzzi
Sedin-Sedin-Bertuzzi/Morozov
Cooke-Chubarov-Linden
Ruutu-Lindgren-Keane
May, Brookbank

Ohlund-Sopel
Allen-Salo
Malik/Bergevin-Jovo

I would feel pretty comfortable with this lineup going into the playoffs

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Canucks get: Morozov, Bergevin
Pens get: Umberger, 3rd (2005) or Fedorov
What? You can't be serious....overpayment batman.

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Sedinfan, I think that you have to watch Morozov to respect his play, although like I said he is not a star, but more of a complimentary player, but I believe with his salary he would fit into Vancouver's payroll very well.

Plus adding Bergevin would add another veteran, who I watched play the last three games, and he plays a much steadier and more physical game than Malik, despite his age. He holds his position well, clears the net, moves the puck without making any major mistakes, and he skates a lot better than Malik. He definitely does not have anywhere close to Malik's offensive game, but that is not what we are looking for out of a depth defenceman.

It may be a slight overpayment, but it is just a proposal at this time and may require a little tweaking.

Please watch Morozov play before you make opinions of him, via info from other posters on this board.


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What? You can't be serious....overpayment batman.


Sigh......

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Right, Morozov is a support player, not a star. Vancouver would probably be a good fit for him. I doubt Burke trades Umberger, he's making him an example.

How about Morozov and Bergevin for Fedorov and a middle pick at the deadline?

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everybody says Morozov has to be surrounded by talent to thrive... then who else is better at that then the Sedins? they have had a good season making grinders and AHL players hit the scoresheet.

i'm not a supporter of getting Morozov, but he could be a decent fallback player if another more substantial deal falls through.

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What? You can't be serious....overpayment batman.
You of all people have no room to talk about over rating or under rating players....

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everybody says Morozov has to be surrounded by talent to thrive... then who else is better at that then the Sedins? they have had a good season making grinders and AHL players hit the scoresheet.

i'm not a supporter of getting Morozov, but he could be a decent fallback player if another more substantial deal falls through.
Yet he could thrive even better than most with said talent IMO...

And that is my point. While not being the IDEAL trade the Nucks may be looking for, he would be a good pick up provided you are unable to aquire a top line guy.

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The Sedins are amazing players. Everyone in the league wishes they had these two gems.

Same with Sopel.

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I agree....but dont even bother to reply to this guy. He is ignorant of Morozov's game and has yet to respond to people who have refuted his blatantly uninformed posts.
Thus=TROLL

And I wonder if the Sedin's would put up those points without Naslund,Bert or Mo in the line up having to face the oppositions top checkers and defensive pairing.....hmmmm
Well, the next 2 weeks would be a good time to find out wouldn't it?

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Well, the next 2 weeks would be a good time to find out wouldn't it?
How so? Did Bert and Mo get injured also? Did I miss something?


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The Sedins are good, guys, don't be bashing them. Morozov would make a good addition to that line and a better and more reliable top 6.

I'm not going to comment on Sopel.

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And I wonder if the Sedin's would put up those points without Naslund,Bert or Mo in the line up having to face the oppositions top checkers and defensive pairing.....hmmmm
And eating up alot of the best offensive ice-time. While the Sedins benefit from not playing against the other team's top defenders, they are hampered by getting the offensive ice-time leftovers of the top line.

Check their ice-time stats. They do an amazing job with the little they get...

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97 points in 82 games (02-03)
51 points in 60 games (03-04)
a project, while increasing scoring output every year since 97-98 season???
Until now.

A question for Nucks fans - do you think the real Bertuzzi is around a 100 pt player or a point a game (or slightly less) type guy?

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And I wonder if the Sedin's would put up those points without Naslund,Bert or Mo in the line up having to face the oppositions top checkers and defensive pairing.....hmmmm
the past 2 games they've been the top line and faced the other team's top checkers. they've been a PPG in those two games with a pair of points each (1g, 3a).

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