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07-02-2008, 09:36 AM
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Aebischer is better.
Better than what??

Aebischer couldn't even crack the line up in Phoenix behind Auld and Tvellquist...and in his first AHL stint after being sent down by Phoenix, gave up 5 goals in a little over a period and a half...before he was banished to Europe. No thanks

I am not a fan of the Raycroft signing...but my goodness, Toronto totally sucking last year may have had a BIT to do with it.

And I am not a fan of going into the season with Budaj as a number 1 (everyone talks about his potential and Q's "goalie carousel," but I still don't see anything above average for him...though I would be happy if he were to prove me wrong).

But I would rather go into a season with Budaj/Raycroft/Wall than have Aebischer anywhere near this team

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[QUOTE=chiavsfan;14679702]And I am not a fan of going into the season with Budaj as a number 1 (everyone talks about his potential and Q's "goalie carousel," but I still don't see anything above average for him...though I would be happy if he were to prove me wrong)./QUOTE]

Well, we'll see this season what we have in him. If you're right then we'll go out there and fix it in what should be a better market for goalies next off-season via trade or signing. PLFG just didn't want to tie the organization down financially by what they thought were overpaid short-term bandages in Huet and Theodore.

Maybe they'll be wrong but at least this way if they're wrong they'll be able to fix the situation, where as if they were wrong by going after either it wouldn't be nearly as reversible. It really is a bit of a rebuilding year.

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Isn't Tampa shopping MIke Smith?
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Very glad with those moves, the Avs didn't overpay for Theo, let's turn the page, and Raycroft costs the Avs almost nothing, making Budaj the new number one.

And who knows, Raycroft may have a better time with the Avs, he had a very good season with the Leafs 2 years ago, that's not that far away !

Looks like the Avs intend to bring in someone else next year, Delmas, Miller ?

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Isn't Tampa shopping MIke Smith?
I'm not sure Mike Smith is the answer either...but regardless...he's probably not being shopped but rather groomed. Brad Richards was too high of a price too pay for a young goalie you are not serious about trying to work with.

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Very glad with those moves, the Avs didn't overpay for Theo, let's turn the page, and Raycroft costs the Avs almost nothing, making Budaj the new number one.

And who knows, Raycroft may have a better time with the Avs, he had a very good season with the Leafs 2 years ago, that's not that far away !

Looks like the Avs intend to bring in someone else next year, Delmas, Miller ?
I'm not sure the Avs are actually looking at bringing in someone next year, they may just not have liked anyone enough on the goalie market this year to overpay for one. They may just be giving themselves room to maneuver.

In a dream situation the Avs would acquire Miller at the deadline, sign him long term and we'd have our franchise goalie all set and done with.

Not very likely though.

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I'm not sure Mike Smith is the answer either...but regardless...he's probably not being shopped but rather groomed. Brad Richards was too high of a price too pay for a young goalie you are not serious about trying to work with.
but tampa has new ownership and coaching, and i have heard they are shopping mike smith...even though they gave up brad richards for him, theyve used the cap space in making huge signings this offseason and probably wouldnt b that upset if they went in as kolzig as their #1 and shopped mike smith for some quality defence...which is the only thing their lacking right now

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Is it just me or is this more of a battle to see who is the backup next year? I don't think that Budaj is a strong #1 Goalie who could play or steal clutch games.And he does have a a problem staying consistent. And I think that Raycroft has been reduced to a backup the way Theo was during the first half of the season. I think that this is a battle to stay on an NHL roster more than it is a battle for a #1 position
So I think that the Avs will keep the better of the 2 and possible make a trade or next summer a big UFA will be brought in.

Are there any big name UFA next year?

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The UFA goalie I think they Av's will go very hard for next off season will be Ryan Miller. I will go as far to say that Miller will be an Av next season. I think it's a big reason the Av's didn't go after Huet and only signed Raycroft to a 1 year deal. He is perfect for the Av's. This is all hypothetical, Raycroft could make a miraculous comeback but that's probably not going to happen.

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Is there a reason to think Miller would sign here aside from

1) He and Liles were teammates a decade ago
2) See #1

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Is there a reason to think Miller would sign here aside from

1) He and Liles were teammates a decade ago
2) See #1
2) they are also good friends by all accounts
3) Denver is an easy city to sell
4) the Avs have the cap room for him next year most don't
5) the Avs have a young team with plenty of potential and a good D in front of him short term, and many good D in the system long term

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6) the Sabres have hemoraged talent and one might be leery of committing their future to them.

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So everybody is all giddy and wanting Ryan Miller, yet you hated Theodore....


Lets see, Theodore had a better SV% and GAA than Miller did last year.... but I thought Theo sucked....


You people just hated Theo for no reason and were blind to his performance no matter how well he did.

Miller would not be an improvement over Theodore...

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So everybody is all giddy and wanting Ryan Miller, yet you hated Theodore....


Lets see, Theodore had a better SV% and GAA than Miller did last year.... but I thought Theo sucked....


You people just hated Theo for no reason and were blind to his performance no matter how well he did.

Miller would not be an improvement over Theodore...
Miller would be more consistent than your Theo.

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So everybody is all giddy and wanting Ryan Miller, yet you hated Theodore....


Lets see, Theodore had a better SV% and GAA than Miller did last year.... but I thought Theo sucked....


You people just hated Theo for no reason and were blind to his performance no matter how well he did.

Miller would not be an improvement over Theodore...
Your Jokeing Right?

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So everybody is all giddy and wanting Ryan Miller, yet you hated Theodore....


Lets see, Theodore had a better SV% and GAA than Miller did last year.... but I thought Theo sucked....


You people just hated Theo for no reason and were blind to his performance no matter how well he did.

Miller would not be an improvement over Theodore...
Guess you will be posting on the caps board for the next two years ?... See, just that is already an improvement

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Miller would not be an improvement over Theodore...
Hehehe...

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So everybody is all giddy and wanting Ryan Miller, yet you hated Theodore....


Lets see, Theodore had a better SV% and GAA than Miller did last year.... but I thought Theo sucked....


You people just hated Theo for no reason and were blind to his performance no matter how well he did.

Miller would not be an improvement over Theodore...
cry more

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Is it just me or is this more of a battle to see who is the backup next year? I don't think that Budaj is a strong #1 Goalie who could play or steal clutch games.And he does have a a problem staying consistent. And I think that Raycroft has been reduced to a backup the way Theo was during the first half of the season. I think that this is a battle to stay on an NHL roster more than it is a battle for a #1 position
So I think that the Avs will keep the better of the 2 and possible make a trade or next summer a big UFA will be brought in.

Are there any big name UFA next year?
why does everybody forget 13-1-2 to finsih 06-07?

the one time Buddaj could actually play without Theo taking his spot every other game

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wow, way to ignore the facts...

shows just how RIGHT I am.

the best lines you came up with were hehehe and cry more....

real solid arguements.

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Your Jokeing Right?
I am not entirely sure what jokEing is....

and no, I am not JOKING

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wow, way to ignore the facts...

shows just how RIGHT I am.

the best lines you came up with were hehehe and cry more....

real solid arguements.
you want facts?

Theo:
2005-06 18 - 17 3.41 GAA .882 SV pct.
2006-07 13 - 15 3.26 GAA .891 SV pct.
2007-08 28 - 21 2.44 GAA .910 SV pct.

Budaj:
2005-06 14 - 11 2.86 GAA .900 SV pct.
2006-07 31 - 16 2.68 GAA .905 SV pct.
2007-08 16 - 10 2.57 GAA .903 SV pct.

Miller
2005-06 30 - 14 2.60 GAA .914 SV pct.
2006-07 40 - 16 2.73 GAA .911 SV pct.
2007-08 36 - 27 2.54 GAA .906 SV pct.

so he had a slightly better year than Miller or Budaj...playing behind Q teams that did nothing but trap and play D with all the injuries up front. Miller and Budaj are 10x more consistent, while playing behind teams that actually tried to score. when viewed over the last 3 years, there's no way you could make any sort of case that Theo is better than either goalie from stats. So stop trying.

seriously, the best part of Theo leaving is less verbal ******** of Theo from you on these boards. take it to the caps boards.

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wow, way to ignore the facts...

shows just how RIGHT I am.

the best lines you came up with were hehehe and cry more....

real solid arguements.
Ok you want solid arguments you'll get some.

1) Since he got the #1 spot Ryan Miller he kept his job over Martin Biron. Back in Montreal Théodore lost his over Huet, that's why he got traded, and even lost his over Budaj in the 2006-07 season.

2) Ok you want to compare last season's stats. Ok fine Theodore had better stats than Miller but let's compare the 2 seasons before that.

=45065&pid[]=49723&pid[]=69869]Ryan Miller

José Théodore

So Theodore had slightly better stats last year but Miller had way better in the 2005-06 and 2006-07 seasons than Theodore.

3) Consistency. You never know if Theodore is gonna pull a good or a bad season. Of course a bad season can happen to every goaltander, but in Theodore's case it's not only one season. Miller has been a very constant goaltander.

You wanted real arguments? There you go.

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why does everybody forget 13-1-2 to finsih 06-07?

the one time Buddaj could actually play without Theo taking his spot every other game
i have noticed that that most of the hockey "experts" who are predicting us at the bottom of the western conference have seemed to overlook that...

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wow, way to ignore the facts...

shows just how RIGHT I am.

the best lines you came up with were hehehe and cry more....

real solid arguements.
Nobody is arguing with you. But if you go to the Caps board, Theo's pants have been spotted there...

BTW who's ignoring the fact that said goalie is 2-12 in the second round?


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