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07-02-2008, 03:48 PM
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Hossa didn't owe Pittsburg anything.

He was traded there. Played like 40 games.

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07-02-2008, 03:59 PM
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Bertuzzi did the same thing to the Wings the year before:
Trade deadline acquisition jumps ship to winner.

Not the biggest deal.

It is more significant when long time players do the same thing: Like Fedorov and Schneider.
Schneider wasn't a real long-term case either. He was another trade deadline mercenary who they happened to retain for an extra couple of seasons. (Not to mention he tried to leave for more cash after the lockout, didn't get what he wanted, and only later decided to re-up with the Red Wings.)

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07-02-2008, 04:02 PM
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Marian Hossa just finished a losing trip to the SCF with the Pittsburgh Penguins, then upon conclusion of the season immediately signed with the team they lost to (Detroit). I can't imagine how a guy can put in that much blood, sweat, and tears against another team at the ultimate stage and then proceed to desert his teammates and sign with the enemy. I can't think of any other examples of this in hockey, or any sport for that matter. I personally think he had his mind made up when he put up a hattrick against them in his best effort of the season with Atlanta, so it was just coincidence that he wound up playing them in the Finals, but either way that's certainly an interesting choice of teams to sign for given the circumstance.
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07-02-2008, 04:06 PM
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Now we know why he missed the net with 1 second to go in Game 6! It's all part of his plan!

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07-02-2008, 04:09 PM
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What ever to this so called discount rumored he was going to take? Haha
Edmonton was supposedly offering a longterm 8-9 million dollar/year deal.

He took 7.4 million total. That's a discount, anyway you look at it.

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07-02-2008, 04:18 PM
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Just seems like such a WWE moment!

(insert Jim Ross voice) "Oh my god! Marian Hossa just hit Sidney Crosby with a metal chair! I can't believe it! Oh my god - what is he doing!"
Classic post!

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07-02-2008, 04:23 PM
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Just seems like such a WWE moment!

(insert Jim Ross voice) "Oh my god! Marian Hossa just hit Sidney Crosby with a metal chair! I can't believe it! Oh my god - what is he doing!"
hahahaaha that was good

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07-02-2008, 04:36 PM
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Paul Kariya was a backstabber. He said "Next year. Same Place. Different Results," after losing to the Devils.He was offered like, 10 million by the Ducks...and then signed with Colorado for like 3 mil or whatever. ****ing **** *********.

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07-02-2008, 04:40 PM
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Can we change the title of the thread to 'Official HFBoards - Post Marion Hossa Signing Drama Queen/Emo Thread'

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07-02-2008, 04:51 PM
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Player A plays for Team A,
Team A loses to Team B in the Finals,
Player A signs with Team B in the offseason.
You mean:

Player A signs at trade deadline with team A to win a Cup.
Team A fails and get beaten by Team B.
Player A still wants a Cup and signs with Team B in the offseason.

For how many years have Hossa been a part of your team?

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07-02-2008, 04:55 PM
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Just seems like such a WWE moment!

(insert Jim Ross voice) "Oh my god! Marian Hossa just hit Sidney Crosby with a metal chair! I can't believe it! Oh my god - what is he doing!"
I don't care what I missed in the rest of this thread, but I had to comment as soon as I saw this one. Classic!


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07-02-2008, 05:01 PM
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Im not shocked by this although. I said it after the trade and ill say it now, it was worth it as long as they make it to the finnals. They made it to the finnals and they lost. The only ill feelings i have was trading esposito. I had high hopes for him in pittsburgh.

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07-02-2008, 05:02 PM
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Something's rotten in Denmark there...
It is actually very easy to break down. I'll give it a shot.

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Why wouldn't Hossa stay in Pittsburgh? That's a great question. He would have a nice long term contract and Crosby would do wonders for his numbers.
He wants to win a cup now. He realized Detroit is coming back with at least the same team. Pittsburgh, not quiet. So this next year, Detroit + Him is a much better shot.

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Why did Ruutu just jump ship after turning down offers from Pittsburgh?
Easy, its all about the 3rd year. He's a very very very smart guy. He knows this could be his last contract in the NHL. He has been trying to get that 3rd year from the Pens since the end of the finals, but the Pens don't feel like they can give it to him. Both sides recognize the situation for what it is.

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Orpik turned down a contract.
At the the end of the day, Shero called his bluff and Orpik is a Penguin for less than other teams were offering him. And of all people, he has a pretty well known beef with MT.

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Malone is gone.
Everybody knew he was gone about 3/4 through this season. He was simply going to get paid way too much for what he brought to the Pens.

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Roberts did not want back.
Pens didn't want him back, not the other way around.

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Hall
Seriously? You just mentioned Hall as somebody leaving?

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Conklin: Both gone.
Just the perfect fit for him in Detroit since the Pens already have MAF to get done and Sabu under contract.

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Laraque on his way out.
This is simply a cap decision. Having the best fighter in the league is a luxury a team with Crosby and Malkin can't afford. Laraque really wanted to come back, but I guess Shero just didn't feel we could afford it.

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What is going on?
I think I did a pretty good job explaining. If you want sources, the post-gazette site should have almost all of em.

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07-02-2008, 05:05 PM
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Just seems like such a WWE moment!

(insert Jim Ross voice) "Oh my god! Marian Hossa just hit Sidney Crosby with a metal chair! I can't believe it! Oh my god - what is he doing!"
"Marian Hossa didn't screw the Pittsburgh Penguins! The Pittsburgh Penguins screwed the Pittsburgh Penguins!"

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07-02-2008, 05:07 PM
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Wow is pittsburgh falling apart whos next?

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07-02-2008, 05:19 PM
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I can see how this might sting if you are a Pens fan, but Hossa obviously wants to win a Stanley Cup and he made a calculated decision that he had a better chance of doing so with Detroit. He and Sundin have every right to decide what is in their best interests--obviously neither guy is in it just for the money, though I wouldn't have blame them had they taken the bigger paydays. It's their call; that's life.

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07-02-2008, 05:22 PM
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This is hardly the ULTIMATE backstab. In fact, it's not even a backstab. He was a UFA and made no promises to anyone...

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07-02-2008, 05:30 PM
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Wow is pittsburgh falling apart whos next?
Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Fleury, Gonchar, Whitney, Letang--with a core like that of course they are in deep trouble.

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07-02-2008, 05:53 PM
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I think Sundin's antics with refusing to waive his NTC and then (presumably) going to another team anyway is way more of a backstab. That's just a giant ******* you to the Maple Leafs organization.
that team and orgabization owe him more than he owes them.

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07-02-2008, 05:53 PM
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Can we change the title of the thread to 'Official HFBoards - Post Marion Hossa Signing Drama Queen/Emo Thread'
(no kidding)

Welcome to HF, enjoy your stay...really Hossa owed the Pens nothing, picked up as a UFA at the deadline, played there for a couple months, decided he liked it better somewhere else.

The one year deal + a chance to win a SC = a bigger pay day next year.

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07-02-2008, 05:57 PM
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Yeah, but the Sox had just won it all. I think it's a lot more brutal to jump straight from the losing team to the winning team.
It is, and many people must hate that dude now.......
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Well, break a leg Marian!

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07-02-2008, 06:02 PM
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Not sure what you call it. But Alexei Yashin holding out for more muhhhhney while UNDER contract was a huge ********* move.

People have already pointed out, Hossa was a rental, end of story.

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07-02-2008, 06:06 PM
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He had allegiances to no team, and any Pens fans who are hurt by his leaving are absolutely delusional. He was a rental, despite Shero's overpayment.

Damon going to the Yankees is a big betrayal, but Clemens doing the same thing about a decade earlier stung so much more.

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07-02-2008, 06:13 PM
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Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Fleury, Gonchar, Whitney, Letang--with a core like that of course they are in deep trouble.
At least one Staal, Letang, and Fleury won't be brought back when their contracts are up. There just won't be enough cap space, and even if there is, there won't be enough money in the organization.

[Cue Pens fans jumping all over this post, saying I'm just jealous of their future and I don't understand asset management.]

The truth is that just over a year ago, the franchise had no future and it took some deft maneuvering by the league, Mario, et al. to keep them in Pittsburgh. The NHL cannot let Sid's franchise move, but that doesn't mean the Penguins are suddenly going to start printing money. Just like the Lightning couldn't keep their big three, the Pens will have to limit their huge contracts to Crosby and Malkin.


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For this to be the ultimate backstab he would have to bang Mario's wife on his way out.

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