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07-03-2008, 07:33 AM
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I want an enforcer on this team. While BG would not be my first chioce, I'd take him over nothing. Who knows, maybe being away a couple of years will make BG realize that he needs to play his role (ie. fight) to be effective (probably not though).
I doubt it. BG is an excellent fighter but a subpar enforcer. If he's going to be that combination he'd need to be able to put the puck in the net or something, which he can't.

Georges Laraque just doesn't fit on the Oilers. I doubt he fits on any NHL team.

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07-03-2008, 08:01 AM
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BG is nothing but a bargaining chip. He brings nothing to our team but an idle threat. if he could skate fast enough he would hit an impact player, but he can't.

this guy is clinging to any possible relationship that will land him another stint with a team. Unless he learns to skate and can make 3 big hits a shift, he is done in this League. The pre-lockout tough guy is over. The post CBA era calls for an agitator type (Ott, Avery, Tucker, Phaneuf, Ruutu etc.) that can actually play the game and have a physical presence.

If the last month has proved anything, it has shown how shrewd Klowe can be when held ransom (GX "negotiations"). Stortini's camp best take notice.

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07-03-2008, 08:21 AM
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I'm all for bringing an enforcer type in BUT one that can contribute more than just trying to "scare" other other teams enforcers off, or keep their players "honest" by intimidating them from taking runs at our guys.

I'll probably get flamed for this but I really liked what Storts showed in terms of PLAYING the game for a guy in his role. Granted he wasn't very good at the role we all ASSUME he was in but at least he contributed in some form.

I think what we all fail to see is that if he was truly an enforcer, why would Mac-T try to hold him back from fighting? I think the idea of team toughness that Mac-T and KLowe are/were trying to instill in the guys is a good one but only works when more than 2 or 3 guys buy into it.

If Storts wants around a million give or take someone needs to tell him Toronto is a good place to swindle that deal.

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07-03-2008, 08:29 AM
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A fighter who doesn't like to fight is a player who shouldn't play with the Oil.

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07-03-2008, 08:33 AM
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Why? Stortini might be the worst enforcer in the league won't drop the gloves with anyone bigger then him (went to the wild game and anytime Boogard went near him, he either turtled or ran back to the bench). At least Georges is still a decent fighter.
He's not an enforcer, he's a pest. He also had 23 fighting majors last year.
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I totally agree BG does not have a mean bone in his body.

He has said a few times on Stauffer's show he does not like fighting at all and if he can avoid he will (in other words pretty much someone has to challenge him and it has to be a legit heavyweight). He said he only ever wanted to fight and was mad when someone called him out in the papers a couple of times.

I am sure it would be just like before. The non-goons know they can run our guys because BG is not going to come after them. It happened many times his last season here from guys like Gauthier, Ruutu, Bryan Allen, Marchment etc... etc... Do not challenge the big guy straight out and you have nothing to worry about. Go about your business and run whomever you like.
Well if those guys ran our players last year the police should be involved.

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07-03-2008, 08:35 AM
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He's useless, just say no.

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07-03-2008, 09:12 AM
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Laraque will most likely be an Oiler

According to Barnes, Laraque wants to come back.

We all know things can change though.

All I can say is he is a better than Mcgratton!

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07-03-2008, 09:17 AM
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According to Barnes, Laraque wants to come back.

We all know things can change though.

All I can say is he is a better than Mcgratton!
And Fedoruk?

The Dogs have both.

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I'll welcome Laraque back. I thought he played decent in the playoffs (as an Oiler) with the limited role he had.

I'm sure Lowe can sign him for 1mill a season. PLay him against rough and tough teams. He doesnt instigate fights, but he does bodycheck and fight well.


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And Fedoruk?

The Dogs have both.
That is why Laraque is available, his team signed another tough guy.

(sorry didn't read your post properly, time to wake up)

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07-03-2008, 09:26 AM
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According to Barnes, Laraque wants to come back.

We all know things can change though.

All I can say is he is a better than Mcgratton!
This will be ridiculously insufferable. He's such a terrible hockey player. This is going to back fire, I hope they force him to take a new #, PENNER is 27.

It better be 1yr, No NTC or NMC and less then $1M

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This will be ridiculously insufferable. He's such a terrible hockey player. This is going to back fire, I hope they force him to take a new #, PENNER is 27.
Is he worse that Mcgratton? That was worth a many page thread on how Lowe was so stupid to not trade for him.

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This will be ridiculously insufferable. He's such a terrible hockey player. This is going to back fire, I hope they force him to take a new #, PENNER is 27.

It better be 1yr, No NTC or NMC and less then $1M
As an Oiler, he wasnt nearly as bad as you make him out to be.

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According to the Team he could also end up in Montreal.

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I would welcome him back as well, not at any price, I think he can make a difference in a rough and tough game, (we are in the western conference) I don't see him dressing all the times but nice to have for those back to back games where opponents take liberty at us!

I still would like to see him more involved in front of the net on the PP, who would move him?

I know he's not the fastest, but he can stop you with a hit, he doesn't fight as much, I think other players might be afraid to fight him as well, as for his playing skills, look it's not Gretz making a comeback.

Sign him for two years, then keep him in the organization, he's well liked in the community, that could go a long way.

My 2 cents.

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As an Oiler, he wasnt nearly as bad as you make him out to be.
He fought by appointment, didn't scare anyone, couldn't skate, didn't have any skill, but felt he was a 20g scorer. That about cover it?

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Is he worse that Mcgratton? That was worth a many page thread on how Lowe was so stupid to not trade for him.
I never said that would be better, I was always on the Fedoruk train, because he can largely actually play.

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He fought by appointment, didn't scare anayone, couldn't skate, didn't have any skill, but felt he was a 20g scorer. That about cover it?
He had no choice but to fight by appointment or he'd be putting the team at risk of being a man short. He scared everybody, hense the reason nobody wants to fight him.. also scared players with his scary hits. Not many enforcers have skill, but he did have skill in keeping the puck in the opositions end for an entire shift. Whats wrong with setting goals for yourself. He didnt deliver his 20 goals, but so what. I had a dream of making the NHL.. didnt happen, I guess I should hang mayself.

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I'd be in the camp of i'd welcome him back if the price was right. I'd take him over Stortini. Laraque brings that intimidation factor to any team he plays for. A lot of people(rightfully so) don't want to mess with BG. BG could "police" guys from taking runs at our top players (in particular Hemsky). Guys like Regehr have their way with Hemsky (some clean hits, some dirty plays) and then they'd have to answer to Big Georges! I definately wouldn't mind him around 750 K or so.
When has BG ever gone after a player like Regehr? He hasn't.

If a guy like May or Belak did something, Georges would go after him. He's never ever touched a guy like Regehr.

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When has BG ever gone after a player like Regehr? He hasn't.

If a guy like May or Belak did something, Georges would go after him. He's never ever touched a guy like Regehr.
In a fight, you're correct, but he hit Regehr with decent bodychecks. Regehr is a ***** when it comes to fighting somebody like Laraque. How does a player fight another when the other turttles ? You get penalized and puts your team at risk from a stupid penalty.

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I think it has been shown over time that Georges did not go after other teams guys because he was ORDERED not to by the coaches.

He is still the best fighter in the league. I think you have a good tag team with BG and Stortini.

We wanted a no trade. Remember that the Oilers made him an offer two years ago so it is not like they absolutely did not want him around.

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If Hemsky wants him back bad enough, Georges will be back. Something's gotta give, we need some real toughness back on this team.

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In a fight, you're correct, but he hit Regehr with decent bodychecks. Regehr is a ***** when it comes to fighting somebody like Laraque. How does a player fight another when the other turttles ? You get penalized and puts your team at risk from a stupid penalty.
In other words, Laraque has no effect on the players who have truely caused the Oilers fits... guys like Regehr who play in the gray area around guys like Hemsky.

Aside from Boogard in 06-07 (and it was 2 games he was really a factor), the Oilers haven't had an issue with the types of guys laraque would fight. If he's not going to protect his players from the likes of Regehr, why do we need him?

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I think it has been shown over time that Georges did not go after other teams guys because he was ORDERED not to by the coaches.

He is still the best fighter in the league. I think you have a good tag team with BG and Stortini.

We wanted a no trade. Remember that the Oilers made him an offer two years ago so it is not like they absolutely did not want him around.
He wasn't going after guys in Phoenix or Pittsburgh either. He fights the heavyweights, he always has.

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He had no choice but to fight by appointment or he'd be putting the team at risk of being a man short
Ok, no, because the team is very good a killer penalties and if it was in defense of a teammate and as a deterent, that would be a good penalty don't you think?


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He scared everybody, hense the reason nobody wants to fight him.. also scared players with his scary hits.
, He did not, he doesn't move well enough to do that, people just have to skate away from him and he's harmless, plus he lacks any mean streak

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Not many enforcers have skill, but he did have skill in keeping the puck in the opositions end for an entire shift. Whats wrong with setting goals for yourself. He didnt deliver his 20 goals, but so what. I had a dream of making the NHL.. didnt happen, I guess I should hang mayself.
Being heavy and hard to push over isn't a skill.

These don't have anything to do with each, it's about being in the NHL and knowing your role, George, lacked that knowledge that was painfully obvious to everyone else. Guys like Peters, Belak, McGratten, Boogaard, etc can figure it out, why can't he?

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