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07-03-2008, 09:23 PM
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Everyone seems to be forgetting the Rangers lost Jagr, Straka, Avery, Tyutin, Backman, and possibly Shanahan and Mara. I'm not saying they've gotten worse, but there are numerous questions surrounding players like Naslund, Redden, and Zherdev. Alot of "boom/bust" going on there.

Like I said I'm not saying they're worse but I hardly see how you can put them under the "most improved" category yet.
Supposedly we have an offer out to Mara.

I think we improved our defense, and our offense looks the same on paper, but will prove to be better during the season than it was last year.

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07-03-2008, 09:36 PM
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WOW, I don't remember UFA period being this insane last year.

So many deals going on, next year is going to be a huge difference.

Which teams are going to have their breakout year?

Phoenix seems dangerous!
Really? I thought last year was crazier...this year seemed pretty mild to me...but I dunno...

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07-03-2008, 09:41 PM
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On paper, Edmonton and the Red Wings.

On paper.

Likewise, any predictions of the Pens demise are terribly misguided, IMO. They locked up their homegrown core for years, Satan is a real sleeper bargain deal, and I predict he will have a superb season riding shotgun with Crosby/Malkin. And if they somehow sign Jagr, they move right to the top of the list.

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Blackhawks..They may have not added the most or best players, but they got the two missing pieces that have been killing them the last few years..A puck moving D-man in Campbell, and a good goalie in Huet. They already have a good, young D and a great deal of offense. They'll make the playoffs for sure.

I'd keep an eye on Edmonton as well. Hawks and Oilers in the playoffs next year.

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07-03-2008, 09:45 PM
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the oil, tampa, chicago

id even say columbus too

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07-03-2008, 09:45 PM
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1- Tampa Bay
2- Edmonton
3- Chicago

Columbus not too far behind as I think many of us underrate the possibilities created by their summer acquisitions, Leclaire's stellar play, Hitchcock's coaching and the a possible great rookie season from either (or both although unlikely) Brassard or Voracek.

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07-03-2008, 09:47 PM
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Everyone seems to be forgetting the Rangers lost Jagr, Straka, Avery, Tyutin, Backman, and possibly Shanahan and Mara. I'm not saying they've gotten worse, but there are numerous questions surrounding players like Naslund, Redden, and Zherdev. Alot of "boom/bust" going on there.

Like I said I'm not saying they're worse but I hardly see how you can put them under the "most improved" category yet.

You do know that Straka and Shanahan are over the hill and sucked last season? You do know that Mara and Backman were horrible as well? You do know that Jagr is still a drama queen who wanted a lot of money right?

The Rangers did rather well. Could have not over-paid for Redden and Rozsival....aside from that, good job.

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07-03-2008, 10:01 PM
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tampa no doubt about it. i an isles fan lets be horrible and draft taveras.
I think the leafs may have something to say about the battle for the basement. It'll be hard pressed between the leafs, Isles and canucks in my opinion.

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07-03-2008, 10:14 PM
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1. Phoenix
2. Tampa Bay
3. Chicago
4. Edmonton
5. Detroit
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07-03-2008, 10:22 PM
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Hmm Detroit just made themselves HUGE favorites to repeat. I'd say they win.

Tampa did a lot of good things but let's see how their "defense" holds up.

I also really really like what Phoenix is doing.. Getting Jokinen for trash was huge and they have a slew of great prospects ready to play now.

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07-03-2008, 10:27 PM
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Blackhawks..They may have not added the most or best players, but they got the two missing pieces that have been killing them the last few years..A puck moving D-man in Campbell, and a good goalie in Huet. They already have a good, young D and a great deal of offense. They'll make the playoffs for sure.

I'd keep an eye on Edmonton as well. Hawks and Oilers in the playoffs next year.
I agree with you. I'd add Phoenix to the playoff picture as well.

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07-03-2008, 10:37 PM
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07-03-2008, 10:39 PM
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Everyone seems to be forgetting the Rangers lost Jagr, Straka, Avery, Tyutin, Backman, and possibly Shanahan and Mara. I'm not saying they've gotten worse, but there are numerous questions surrounding players like Naslund, Redden, and Zherdev. Alot of "boom/bust" going on there.

Like I said I'm not saying they're worse but I hardly see how you can put them under the "most improved" category yet.
bitter?

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07-03-2008, 10:40 PM
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Tampa & Chicago.

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07-03-2008, 10:43 PM
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Detroit's signing and re-signings hasn't improved them more than it neutralized them. Hossa obviously is a big signing and improvement but not as much as other teams. Also I think it is quite clear the Wings do not need much improvement. The Hawks got Campbell yes, but they lost Borque which I thought was a mistake. Edmonton is really showing they want to win and Tampa is too. I say Tampa is the most improved after the Vrbata and Kolzig signings. Vrbata to me was a huge steal, and Kolzig fills the gap in goalie. The Rangers did alright, but I am not sure I'd put them up there with most improved. Islanders got Streit, which is good.. but Weight.. which I am still figuring out. The Habs did well too. We'll see where Sundin goes and if he goes to Montreal then they did really well. What is Washington going to do with their goaltending situation?

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07-03-2008, 10:45 PM
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Flames have taken a page out of Detroit's books that they used a couple of years ago. Time to promote the youth and give them a chance.

Stop signing older, declined veterans and let your other older guys go. Like they did with Shannahan, Lang, etc.

Flames bottom 6 looks so much better than the previous few years it will help out the top 6.

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Never mind saw they got Theodore. I personally don't like him and think it is a step down.. but we'll see what happens.

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Tampa and the Oilers.

Lowe turned a 3rd line center that was -23 and had 36 points, aswell as a 3rd pairing defenseman into the 3rd highest scoring defensemen since the lockout. What Stoll is capable of is irrelevant because we didn't see it last season. We weren't a 9th place team with the Stoll that was +4 and had 68 points...if we had that player we probably could have been in the 6-8th seed.

After getting Visnovsky Lowe was able to trade Pitkanen without hurting our blue line at all and he turned him into a top 6 forward that is a heart and soul guy and has won a Cup.

He also turned an underachieving Torres isn't a struggling prospect with a lot of upside. Torres barely even played last season so it's not really hurting the team that played last season anyways.

Coming in: Visnkovsky, Cole and Brule.
Leaving: Stoll, Greene, Pitkanen and Torres....3 of the 4 were either lazy, underachieving or both.
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07-03-2008, 10:49 PM
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bitter?
I thought it was a pretty fair and reasonable assesmant, just because it was from a Devils fan does'nt take away all its value. Yes, the Rangers didnt have alot of chemistry last year, and that will be another question this year with so many new faces inserted into the lineup.

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07-03-2008, 10:51 PM
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I would have to say Detroit

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Flames bottom 6 looks so much better than the previous few years it will help out the top 6.
Not trying to start anything but who do you see as your top 6?

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Hmm Detroit just made themselves HUGE favorites to repeat. I'd say they win.
It's hard for Detroit to be the most improved team when they were so bad-ass to start with. If they signed Superman, Thor, and the Incredible Hulk, that might do it.

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tampa no doubt about it. i an isles fan lets be horrible and draft taveras.
NO. Tampa beat us to Stamkos this year, so the Isles can wait because if the Kings suck this year, they are going all out and getting Tavares.

I agree that Tampa, Phoenix, and Chicago look to be the most improved.

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It's hard for Detroit to be the most improved team when they were so bad-ass to start with. If they signed Superman, Thor, and the Incredible Hulk, that might do it.
What about this guy too?


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