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07-05-2008, 05:06 PM
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Rozsival & Kalinin Similar Careers

I've been looking at their stats prior to joining the Rangers and I see a lot of similarities.

With Pittsburgh Rozsival had 21 and 29 point seasons and then fell off to have just 10 in the last season before the lockout and then signed with us. At the time nobody would have imagined he'd be here for 7 years (if he finishes out new deal) and would have had the impact he has had and should continue to have.

Kalinin is like a year or two older than Rozsival was when he came over. He has had seasons of 22, 21, 34, 29 points but only had 8 last year in 46 games.

Basically, I know he signed for only a 1 year deal but I hope Sather and co. singled Kalinin out as a guy they believe can prove himself to be more than a 3rd pairing defenseman which he will certainly start out as. Identifying talent and improving players' stock is really crucial in the cap era.

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yeah... there was sort of this guy called Jagr...

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yeah... there was sort of this guy called Jagr...
I think, and certainlu hope, the Rozsival can be just as effective a player without Jagr.

That being said, I don't expect Kalinin to improve as much as Rozsie has since being a Ranger.

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07-05-2008, 05:24 PM
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This just goes to show that Mark Twain was right about statistics.

Rozsival suffered a severe knee injury during training camp in Sept 2003. He only played one more game for the Pittsburgh organization and then they decided not to re-sign him after the lockout.

Their statistics may be "similar" but that doesn't tell the whole story--unless of course Kalinin also suffered a career threatening injury.

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Their statistics may be "similar" but that doesn't tell the whole story--unless of course Kalinin also suffered a career threatening injury.
Not exactly career threatening but significant injuries. In the 2005-06 playoffs he played great until he was knocked out of the Eastern Conference Championship series against Carolina with an ankle injury. In 2006-07 when the Sabres lost to Ottawa, he played through a sports hernia late in the season and in the playoffs. Last year he missed almost half of the season with assorted injuiries including an MCL sprain.

The knock on Kalinin is that he is a fragile ego who can be very inconsistent. If you Google him, you will find stories where he was the best player on the ice in one game and a disaster in the next. There also seems to be an undercurrent of him frustrating Lindy Ruff. Coaching and good health could be the keys in getting a lot out of him.

If he plays like he did in the 2005-06 playoffs then he's a steal. Hopefully, a late bloomer, much like Rozsival.

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Not exactly career threatening but significant injuries. In the 2005-06 playoffs he played great until he was knocked out of the Eastern Conference Championship series against Carolina with an ankle injury. In 2006-07 when the Sabres lost to Ottawa, he played through a sports hernia late in the season and in the playoffs. Last year he missed almost half of the season with assorted injuiries including an MCL sprain.

The knock on Kalinin is that he is a fragile ego who can be very inconsistent. If you Google him, you will find stories where he was the best player on the ice in one game and a disaster in the next. There also seems to be an undercurrent of him frustrating Lindy Ruff. Coaching and good health could be the keys in getting a lot out of him.

If he plays like he did in the 2005-06 playoffs then he's a steal. Hopefully, a late bloomer, much like Rozsival.
Renney and Ruff have very different approaches. Renney is not one to call a player out in public. Renney might be a coach more suited for a player like Kalinin.

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Renney and Ruff have very different approaches. Renney is not one to call a player out in public. Renney might be a coach more suited for a player like Kalinin.
Agreed. Players have nothing but good things to say about Renney. He is the type of guy that if you have a bad game he'll come over tap you on the shoulder and say "hey it happens... but lets try to learn from what happened. We'll work on it in practice." By the sound of it thats exactly the type of coach Kalinin needs

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I think, and certainlu hope, the Rozsival can be just as effective a player without Jagr.

That being said, I don't expect Kalinin to improve as much as Rozsie has since being a Ranger.
He will be. Want to know why? He wont always be looking to pass to Jagr and will actually SHOOT THE ****ING PUCK.

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Not exactly career threatening but significant injuries. In the 2005-06 playoffs he played great until he was knocked out of the Eastern Conference Championship series against Carolina with an ankle injury. In 2006-07 when the Sabres lost to Ottawa, he played through a sports hernia late in the season and in the playoffs. Last year he missed almost half of the season with assorted injuiries including an MCL sprain.

The knock on Kalinin is that he is a fragile ego who can be very inconsistent. If you Google him, you will find stories where he was the best player on the ice in one game and a disaster in the next. There also seems to be an undercurrent of him frustrating Lindy Ruff. Coaching and good health could be the keys in getting a lot out of him.

If he plays like he did in the 2005-06 playoffs then he's a steal. Hopefully, a late bloomer, much like Rozsival.
Well then, he has pretty big shoes to fill--Rozsival managed to come back from a serious injury and spent the next 3 years playing the role of #1 defenseman. Of course, Kalinin is already earning almost 3X the amount Rozsival originally signed for with the Rangers. So, hopefully, he will find his game as quickly as Rozsival did. And if not, he'll join the the ever growing list of defenseman Sather acquired to provide a veteran presence on the blue line.

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He will be. Want to know why? He wont always be looking to pass to Jagr and will actually SHOOT THE ****ING PUCK.
Well hopefully with no Jagr, Rosival will indeed shoot the puck and score 20 this season like he probably could have last season.

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He will be. Want to know why? He wont always be looking to pass to Jagr and will actually SHOOT THE ****ING PUCK.
hope he does cant tellu how many times i yelled at my tv rosie shoot dam it

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Kalinin is a skilled defensive defensmen who if healthy and treated with a somewhat more gentle touch will improve drastically on the Rangers. Lindy Ruff just didn't have the social skills to deal with this guy. Don't expect tons of physical play from him but on many nights he was the Sabres best defensmen.

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