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07-08-2008, 01:01 PM
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Top 10 Coyotes

After discovering a neat feature in hockeydb where you can sort Coyotes by stats I was surprised at some of the results.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/t...ay.php?tid=790

2012 - 7th June

Top 20 GP
1 . Shane Doan C 1124
2 . Teppo Numminen D 551
3 . Jeremy Roenick C 454
4 . Derek Morris D 442
5 . Zbynek Michalek D 393
6 . Radoslav Suchy D 372
7 . Keith Yandle D 365
8 . Martin Hanzal C 352
9 . Ed Jovanovski D 332
10 . Keith Tkachuk C 332
11 . Paul Mara D 323
12 . Ladislav Nagy C 321
13 . Daymond Langkow C 316
14 . Radim Vrbata F 314
15 . Ossi Vaananen D 291
16 . Keith Carney D 266
17 . Fredrik Sjostrom F 261
17 . Juha Ylonen F 261
19 . Daniel Briere F 258
20 . Ilya Bryzgalov G 257
26 . Lauri Korpikoski R 232
28 . Taylor Pyatt W 223
29 . Adrian Aucoin D 221
34 . Mikkel Boedker R 208
61 . Oliver Ekman-Larsson D 130

Top 10 Goalscorers 2012 - 7th June
1. Shane Doan 311
2. Keith Tkachuk 179
3. Jeremy Roenick 152
4. Radim Vrbata 105
5. Ladislav Nagy 92
6. Daymond Langkow 79
7. Daniel Briere 70
8. Rick Tocchet 64
9. Teppo Numminen 55
10. Martin Hanzal 54

17. Keith Yandle 43
19. Lauri Korpikoski 41
20. Ray Whitney 41
21. Taylor Pyatt 39
35. Mikkel Boedker 27



2010 - 15 July

Top 10 GP
1 . Shane Doan C 973
2 . Teppo Numminen D 551
3 . Jeremy Roenick C 454
4 . Zbynek Michalek D 393
5 . Radoslav Suchy D 372
6 . Keith Tkachuk C 332
7 . Paul Mara D 323
8 . Ladislav Nagy C 321
9 . Derek Morris D 306
10 . Ossi Vaananen D 291
11 . Ed Jovanovski D 282
24 . Martin Hanzal C 227
33 . Keith Yandle D 201
36 . Ilya Bryzgalov G 189
39 . Radim Vrbata R 158

- Shane Doan is 27 games away from 1000 regular season games, pretty amazing.
- If Derek Morris stays healthy over his 4yr contract, he could overtake Numminen.
- Hanzal will leap to 5th overall Coyote forward after 48 games next season.
- Bryzgalov will overtake Khabibulin after 16 games and Burke after 22 games to be No.1 goalie.
- Yandle is also well positioned to jump up.
- If we'd kept Ballard, he would be 4th all time by now.


2008 - Two Years Ago

Top 10 GP
1. Shane Doan 809
2. Teppo Numminen 551
3. Jeremy Roenick 454
4. Radoslav Suchy 372
5. Keith Tkachuk 332
6. Paul Mara 323
7. Ladislav Nagy 321
8. Ossi Vaananen 291
9. Keith Carney 266
10. Juha Ylonen 261
10. Freddie Sjostrom 261
17. Zbynek Michalek 239
20. Derek Morris 231


Had no idea Suchy was 4th in the list! Sjostrom was in the top 10!

Top 10 Goalscorers
1. Shane Doan 220
2. Keith Tkachuk 179
3. Jeremy Roenick 152
4. Ladislav Nagy 92
5. Daniel Briere 70
6. Daymond Langkow 68
7. Rick Tocchet 64
8. Teppo Numminen 55
9. Dallas Drake 52
10. Mike Johnson 47
14. Steven Reinprecht 37
29. Ed Jovanovski 23
30. Peter Mueller 22


Pretty pathetic list after the top 3 guys. I mean.. Mike Johnson is 10th.. that says it all. At least it will be interesting watching our rookies hopefully climb this list.. Mueller is already 30th.

Top 10 Assists and Pts follows pretty much the same pattern.

Top PIMS
1. Shane Doan 742
2. Keith Tkachuk 716
3. Jeremey Roenick 596
4. Daniel Carcillo 398
5. Rick Tocchet 371


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07-08-2008, 01:08 PM
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Keep in mind that's a Coyotes list, not a Coyotes/Jets list. With the amount of turnover this team has had in its decade of existence, it's no surprise to see such a lackluster list.

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Pretty pathetic list after the top 3 guys. I mean.. Mike Johnson is 10th.. that says it all.
That is a bit unfair. I have fond memories of Mike Johnson's time in Phoenix even though he failed to look very good in any other jersey. Mike had 159 points in 242 games with Phoenix for ~0.66 ppg. He was no world beater but he had a pretty good run with the Coyotes.

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Nice to see Carcillo on pace to eclipse the all time PIMS in his second full season

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Top PIMS
1. Shane Doan 742
2. Keith Tkachuk 716
3. Jeremey Roenick 596
4. Daniel Carcillo 398 <--------------------
5. Rick Tocchet 371

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That is a bit unfair. I have fond memories of Mike Johnson's time in Phoenix even though he failed to look very good in any other jersey. Mike had 159 points in 242 games with Phoenix for ~0.66 ppg. He was no world beater but he had a pretty good run with the Coyotes.
I do like Mike Johnson.. I admire the way he managed to come back from such a terrible start with the Coyotes, he was mocked and I believe was only days away from the waiver wire at one point. But he became a solid professional and a valuable member of the team. But a goalscoring list with MJ in it is kind of depressing. Defensive specialist Dallas Drake is number 9. Hmm.

On a separate topic its good to see how many games Z has played already.. second most behind Doan, he's heading into the top 10 and top 5 shortly I'm sure.

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On a separate topic its good to see how many games Z has played already.. second most behind Doan, he's heading into the top 10 and top 5 shortly I'm sure.
It is nice to see. If the core group the Coyotes are developing are not dominating these lists in a few years, I will be disappointed. The future looks bright.

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It is nice to see. If the core group the Coyotes are developing are not dominating these lists in a few years, I will be disappointed. The future looks bright.
Totally. Peter Mueller could probably be top ten in goal scoring, after next season.

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Teemu selanne would have been top five in goals after his rookie season - crazy - that's after 10 years in the desert.

Thank goodness for Mueller, Turris and Boedker - we can have hope that some of those numbers will inflate!

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i did a Top 10 Coyotes of all time on my blog....check it out everyone. Mind you it counts the Jets.


http://gootzhockey.blogspot.com/2008...-all-time.html

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i did a Top 10 Coyotes of all time on my blog....check it out everyone. Mind you it counts the Jets.


http://gootzhockey.blogspot.com/2008...-all-time.html
that's pretty much a picture perfect list, order and everything. i might put tkachuk ahead of steen... maybe. you could make some cases for some other players but who do you take off? nice job.

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that's pretty much a picture perfect list, order and everything. i might put tkachuk ahead of steen... maybe. you could make some cases for some other players but who do you take off? nice job.
Thanks...the hardest decision was between Steen and Numminen trying to figure out who went 2 and 3

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The talent that has come through this town has been pretty dang good.

My all-time list is not about stats. It's just my list of gamers.

List includes guys that have had great careers that once wore a PHX sweater.

-Daniel Briere
-Keith Carney
-Shane Doan
-Dallas Drake
-Nikolai Khabibulin
-Teppo Numminen
-Jeremy Roenick
-Cliff Ronning
-Keith Tkachuk
-Rick Tocchet

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The talent that has come through this town has been pretty dang good.

My all-time list is not about stats. It's just my list of gamers.

List includes guys that have had great careers that once wore a PHX sweater.

-Daniel Briere
-Keith Carney
-Shane Doan
-Dallas Drake
-Nikolai Khabibulin
-Teppo Numminen
-Jeremy Roenick
-Cliff Ronning
-Keith Tkachuk
-Rick Tocchet
What about Mike Gartner? Not a perennial all-star but 700 goals is nothing to sneeze at...

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What about Mike Gartner? Not a perennial all-star but 700 goals is nothing to sneeze at...
I actually met that guy in a N.Scottsdale McDonalds when he was playing here briefly. Very cool dude.

I must admit that he did not make my personal list. I was not a hockey fan when he was in his prime. Sure his numbers were outstanding. I just listed my personal top ten.

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Just looking at a site I havent been to before: http://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/

Amused to see that Phoenix has the 2nd best Points Pct in the Pacific..

Dallas .607
Phoenix .503
Anaheim .501
San Jose .479
Los Angeles .472

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Amused to see that Phoenix has the 2nd best Points Pct in the Pacific..
It is easy to forget after regular first round exits followed by several years of just plain losing, but the Coyotes were a consistent playoff team during the Roenick/Tkachuk years. They often came out blazing in October only to slowly cool off, just make the playoffs and go bust in the first round.

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that's pretty much a picture perfect list, order and everything. i might put tkachuk ahead of steen... maybe. you could make some cases for some other players but who do you take off? nice job.

Yeah, great list!
Only thing i'd be tempted to change is to put Sean Burke into Zhamnov's spot...

Just personal preference, I guess, but he really stablized the net after the Khabby fiasco (thank you florida )

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Updated Interesting to see what's happened in 2 years.

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The Top 10 Greatest Phoenix Coyotes of All Time.

From November 27, 2009.

http://*******************/articles/...ll-time#page/2

Solid list. Number 10 is a bit surprising but, a good pick still.

NOTE: I see the sites black listed from HF. I'll see what the proper procedure here is.

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These are pretty good lists to point to if anyone asks why hockey has been in trouble in the valley. Yikes.

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The talent that has come through this town has been pretty dang good.

My all-time list is not about stats. It's just my list of gamers.

List includes guys that have had great careers that once wore a PHX sweater.

-Daniel Briere
-Keith Carney
-Shane Doan
-Dallas Drake
-Nikolai Khabibulin
-Teppo Numminen
-Jeremy Roenick
-Cliff Ronning
-Keith Tkachuk
-Rick Tocchet
The biggest omission from this list, especially if talking about gamers is Sean Burke. I'd argue he's had the biggest impact on Phoenix Coyotes hockey with the exception of Shane Doan....and it continues to this day with his work with the goalies.

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The biggest omission from this list, especially if talking about gamers is Sean Burke. I'd argue he's had the biggest impact on Phoenix Coyotes hockey with the exception of Shane Doan....and it continues to this day with his work with the goalies.
Yeah, my top 'respect' list would be Doan, Teppo, and Burke.

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Why is Doan listed as a Center on the top list?

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The data comes from Hockeydb where he's listed as a C. Tkachuk is a C as well, there isnt really a good distinction between C, F, W.

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