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07-11-2008, 03:05 PM
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Finns and Swedes - help me visit you!

Alright, so I quit my job, sold all of my stuff and am coming to Europe for a longterm solo-backpacking trip. Monday (the 14th), I fly out to Belfast. From there I will be doing Northern Ireland, Edinburgh, and Glasgow. THEN, I fly out to Stockholm on August 1st.

Basically, I would like to spend about 10-20 days in Sweden and Finland in August before moving on.

I was thinking of this: Stockholm for a week, then transit (rail? bus?) to Turku, Finland, spend 5 days here, then off to Helsinki for a week. Are there any other smaller centers in and around these cities that you would recommend? Is it worth it to hit Gothenburg? Should I just fly from Stockholm to Helsinki? I was hoping to hit some countryside up as well. Any big events happening Aug1-20 in these areas?

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Alright, so I quit my job, sold all of my stuff and am coming to Europe for a longterm solo-backpacking trip. Monday (the 14th), I fly out to Belfast. From there I will be doing Northern Ireland, Edinburgh, and Glasgow. THEN, I fly out to Stockholm on August 1st.

Basically, I would like to spend about 10-20 days in Sweden and Finland in August before moving on.

I was thinking of this: Stockholm for a week, then transit (rail? bus?) to Turku, Finland, spend 5 days here, then off to Helsinki for a week. Are there any other smaller centers in and around these cities that you would recommend? Is it worth it to hit Gothenburg? Should I just fly from Stockholm to Helsinki? I was hoping to hit some countryside up as well. Any big events happening Aug1-20 in these areas?

Thanks!
Think ferries...

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Hey, dude, I am not a Nord but I have been to Norway, Sweden and Finland as well as a number of other countries in Europe.

The large cities can get quite expensive, you will find for example that in Stockholm the living wage makes life affordable for pretty much all the locals but will rip a hole into your American pocket. A buck fifty for an elevator ride!

Well, here is what I suggest:
Start in Oslo, there are hostels and stuff there if you look, they are affordable. Nicer places, too but expect to pay. Do you thing there and take a Viking cruise to Sweden. Try and arrange travel as far east as you want to go, conceivably you could Oslo-Stockholm-Helsinki-Talinn-St Petersburg all by Viking line. Cost of the trip is around $100 USD for each stop, that includes your room and access to amenities (though food, drink, etc are extra ... fair prices though). You may arrange longer stays in any given city, just clear it up with your travel agent, and considering that you are going multiple legs they may reduce your cost as well.

The boats are an adventure in and of themselves, lots of booze and even though there are families and older folks they get to bed and it's all younger people in the discos, casinos and bars on the ship. Lots of fun can be had here if you meet the right people.

Stockholm is about the most expensive you can stay in Europe outside the UK, I had a free place to stay and my week there cost me as much as any other place I had a hotel. It is a gorgeous place though so I would recommend going anyway.

Best thing to do is fall in with a local girl, I had no real luck other than Finland but I thought Norway promising had I stayed longer. Both countries are more party/booze oriented than is Sweden (sorry, Swedes!).

Given your itinerary I would recommend travel by overnight Viking boat to Helsinki. See how you like it, some people do not care much for Finland. If you enjoy your time there, head onto Turku by rail. It should be relatively inexpensive, perhaps $50USD (estimating, varies on many factors).

As for the Swedish sprawl, there are some beautiful areas all over the country. You can get to Goteborg without much trouble, we went by car but I know there are trains and buses. Why not check it out? You're going all that way. If you like the arts they have a nice museum and it's definitely the classical music place to be in Scandinavia. It is a city of maybe half a million with a lot of shopping and stuff, there's also a big amusement park and, like much of Sweden, some natural beauty from the blondes who dye their hair darker colors the way American women bleach theirs to the array of flowers and berries.

Anyway, I won't drone on, I'll just say that travel between major cities should be done by boat if at all possible, otherwise train/bus (whichever is cheaper). Unlike most of Europe where flying is incredibly cheap, it seems a bit expensive in the Nordic nations. PM me if you have further questions.

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You should really consider house stays, you get a taste of the country and their next to free (if not free).

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You should really consider house stays, you get a taste of the country and their next to free (if not free).
Yes I def. plan on doing the couchsurfing. Currently I only have access to dialup as I am in a remote area in Northern Canada right now. Thus I will have to wait till Tuesday when I have wifi access in Europe in Ireland. Its just too damn slow to surf peoples profiles and whatnot.

To the other poster: I would love to hit Norway, but it is just not in the cards for this trip. I will be doing almost every country in East/West Europe, so I must stretch my finances very thin and I had to pick 2 of the 3 nordic countries. I think I will ferry to Turku then bus to Helsinki after Stockholm. What cities are better? Stockholm, Helsinki, Turku??

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Any big events happening Aug1-20 in these areas?
I'm not from there, but you can look at The Local which is an online Swedish newspaper in English. They have a lifestyles section that tells you of various events, nightclubs, etc. I think it only covers things on a weekly basis, so it may not help you plan things in advance, but would be helpful once you are there...

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Stockholm is about the most expensive you can stay in Europe outside the UK
Believe it or not, but Moscow is even more expensive than Stockholm. It's quite insane there.

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Believe it or not, but Moscow is even more expensive than Stockholm. It's quite insane there.
I read this list some time ago and it said That Oslo surpassed Tokyo as the most expensive city in the world. I wouldnt argue.

just an example an ordinary pizza goes for ~150-200 sek which is somewhere between 25-33$
Thats pretty insane, in stockholm a pizza costs about a third of that..

And a bigmac costs about 2$ less in sweden than in Norway

But it might cost more to live, but if ur planning on couchsurfing Stockholm would be cheaper.

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You should really consider house stays, you get a taste of the country and their next to free (if not free).
I hear Finnerican has a place for you to stay.

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Some activities in Helsinki:

Helsinki Festival 8/15 - 8/31
http://www.helsinginjuhlaviikot.fi/i...hp?&lang=en_GB

8/7: Neil Young
8/11: Meat Loaf
8/12: Deep Purple, Nazareth
8/13: Dragon Canoeing
8/16: Helsinki City Marathon http://www.helsinkicitymarathon.fi/eng/index.html
8/15-17: Flow Festival http://www.flowfestival.com/en/

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Viking line cruise ship from Stockholm to Turku is a nice way to spend a couple days. Slot machines, buffets and lots of drinking.

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Is it true that in Sweden, there are billboards of topless busty broads advertising delicious cakes?

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