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07-16-2008, 06:58 PM
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Pacioretty ranking among prospects...

I see everyone is hoping aboard his bandwagon, and is pretty much without argument our #1 prospect. My question is where do you think he ranks among all prospects from all the NHL teams who have yet to play an NHL game? is he top 50? 25?

Just curious how the posters on this board rank him compared to other teams prospects...

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07-16-2008, 07:03 PM
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I think he should be top 50 for sure but prospect rankings really doesn't mean a whole lot. It's more an exercise of who's the most popular, not who's the best prospect.

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I think he should be top 50 for sure but prospect rankings really doesn't mean a whole lot. It's more an exercise of who's the most popular, not who's the best prospect.
Yes, and very few people know as much about certain prospects as they do others so it's basically just a guess


Pacioretty is the NHL's 37th best prospect!!!!!!!11111

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We have to remember that Pacioretty will be 20 this year, its not like he's junior aged anymore.

So many Hab fans can't stand Latender but when he was 19 he was already in the NHL on his way to a 16 goal season.

Anyways, I know its not a Latender thread but MaxPac in my opinion should be in the AHL this year, he's ready for that level for sure.

Having said that anything less than being one of the top forwards in his league will be a bit disapointing, he should be dominant this year.

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Yes, and very few people know as much about certain prospects as they do others so it's basically just a guess


Pacioretty is the NHL's 37th best prospect!!!!!!!11111
I say 32!!!!


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I see everyone is hoping aboard his bandwagon, and is pretty much without argument our #1 prospect. My question is where do you think he ranks among all prospects from all the NHL teams who have yet to play an NHL game? is he top 50? 25?

Just curious how the posters on this board rank him compared to other teams prospects...
I don't know, but I wouldn't expect him to be top 20 or so as a guess, imo what makes Pacioretty our top prospect is more about the tools he brings and the kind of game that he plays, that imo will make him more valueable to us since we so sorely lack the type of player he projects to be, whereas if he was with another organization he might not be as highly thought off. I am a huge, huge fan of Pac he has downright impressed the hell out of me this year with the way he played, the mix of size/speed/skill/strength, offensive skills, to go with a very sound physical game and solid in his own end while being a hard working player that keeps his feet moving.

I don't know his upside, as I want to see how his offensive game translates at the next level and since he hasn't really faced a high level of competition until this past season, as he wasn't a standout player in the USHS but did have a big year as a rookie in the USHL at 18 (while guys like McDonagh/Fischer/Wyman/Paquet were seeing time in the NCAA at that age) I think Pacioretty is going to be one of Timmins better picks, I don't expect him to have the flair of the Kostitsyn's but I do think he will be a fan favorite and a very solid player. But we'll see how things continue to go for him and when he goes to the next level, how he adjusts there.

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How many of the top 50 prospects have any of us watched on a regular basis to make any assessment?

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How many of the top 50 prospects have any of us watched on a regular basis to make any assessment?
I SAID 32!

That's his ranking.


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Yes, and very few people know as much about certain prospects as they do others so it's basically just a guess


Pacioretty is the NHL's 37th best prospect!!!!!!!11111
He's 37th according the the Hockey News before this year's draft.

http://www.zinio.com/express3?issue=...&prev=si&ncc=1

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I couldnt care less where he's ranked.

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I SAID 32!

That's his ranking.

Sit Dog!

I put him at 38th and i have more posts so my opinion matters most, naturally.

Plus my avatar is sexy.


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I don't know, but I wouldn't expect him to be top 20 or so as a guess, imo what makes Pacioretty our top prospect is more about the tools he brings and the kind of game that he plays, that imo will make him more valueable to us since we so sorely lack the type of player he projects to be, whereas if he was with another organization he might not be as highly thought off. I am a huge, huge fan of Pac he has downright impressed the hell out of me this year with the way he played, the mix of size/speed/skill/strength, offensive skills, to go with a very sound physical game and solid in his own end while being a hard working player that keeps his feet moving.

I don't know his upside, as I want to see how his offensive game translates at the next level and since he hasn't really faced a high level of competition until this past season, as he wasn't a standout player in the USHS but did have a big year as a rookie in the USHL at 18 (while guys like McDonagh/Fischer/Wyman/Paquet were seeing time in the NCAA at that age) I think Pacioretty is going to be one of Timmins better picks, I don't expect him to have the flair of the Kostitsyn's but I do think he will be a fan favorite and a very solid player. But we'll see how things continue to go for him and when he goes to the next level, how he adjusts there.
IMO he will be a bigger Higgins and since I would take three Higgins on my team a second one will surely help us....

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Sit Dog!

I put him at 38th and i have more posts so my opinion matters most, naturally.

Plus my avatar is sexy.

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I would say somewhere between 35 and 45...

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I see everyone is hoping aboard his bandwagon, and is pretty much without argument our #1 prospect. My question is where do you think he ranks among all prospects from all the NHL teams who have yet to play an NHL game? is he top 50? 25?

Just curious how the posters on this board rank him compared to other teams prospects...
Wasn't McDonagh ahead of him in the draft and rankings last year? I think some people are putting a lot of stock in an instructional camp.

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Mcdonagh right now is probably ahead of Maxpac in all these prospect ranking lists...except for ours of course

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Wasn't McDonagh ahead of him in the draft and rankings last year? I think some people are putting a lot of stock in an instructional camp.
I think its much more than that.....

Pac passed McD on the depth chart with his play at Michigan this season; and his play at the WJC... its not just one instructional camp.

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I think its much more than that.....

Pac passed McD on the depth chart with his play at Michigan this season; and his play at the WJC... its not just one instructional camp.
At the WJHC he was hurt and pretty much a non-factor.

By the same token, McDonagh played on a weaker team and had a good year, many felt Team USA missed the boat not taking him on the U20 team.

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I think its much more than that.....

Pac passed McD on the depth chart with his play at Michigan this season; and his play at the WJC... its not just one instructional camp.
The real reason Pac is number 1 for us is cuz he fills a big void for us. A combination of Size + Skill and above all, he uses his size in every way he can. He's big and he knows it. Unlike a certain other gentleman on our team. He's got good potential, but McDonagh was seen as a Neidermayer type of guy... I'd say a top pairing Dman is more valuable than a top 6 forward.

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At the WJHC he was hurt and pretty much a non-factor.

By the same token, McDonagh played on a weaker team and had a good year, many felt Team USA missed the boat not taking him on the U20 team.
Such a non-factor that he replaced the highly touted van riemsdyk on the first line for the US in their medal round games.

Yes, he could've been better if not hurt, but he showed a lot by playing well through the pain.

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Such a non-factor that he replaced the highly touted van riemsdyk on the first line for the US in their medal round games.

Yes, he could've been better if not hurt, but he showed a lot by playing well through the pain.
No disrespect to Pachioretty but you have to admit that as soon as Van Riemsdyk switched lines his new one automatically became the first line.

It does, however, show that the US coaches had enough confidence in MaxPac to select him to fill in for JVR and keep that line going. Which is quite a compliment.

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You're all crazy. McDonaugh is still better. He's a rare breed of d-man... MaxPac doesn't project well into a dominating player, just a very good complimentary player. McDonaugh has that X-factor to control a game.

I like both prospects, but McDonaugh is the stud.

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You're all crazy. McDonaugh is still better. He's a rare breed of d-man... MaxPac doesn't project well into a dominating player, just a very good complimentary player. McDonaugh has that X-factor to control a game.

I like both prospects, but McDonaugh is the stud.
So what about McDonagh makes you think he's a stud defensemen? What X-factor is it that he has?

btw, there's no need to call people crazy for having opinions that are very close. Some like Pac more some like McDonagh more, both are our top 2 prospects so it's not far fetched that some will like one more then the other, especially when one was the CCHA rookie of the year, after being rookie of the year the previous season w/his USHL team.

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Wasn't McDonagh ahead of him in the draft and rankings last year? I think some people are putting a lot of stock in an instructional camp.
I don't put ANY stock in a development camp, I stopped going to them because they are kind of boring (plus it's hard to get off work and I live in the states so it's a long drive) I prefer watching them in game action.

As for draft rankings, they don't mean much down the road, that's why you see guys in the NHL that are 7th, 8th, 9th round picks that end up better then many guys taken in the first round. Personally I think people put too much stock in where a player is drafted.

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