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04-01-2008, 05:28 PM
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Origin of the Habs Nickname

Hello all. I have a dumb question, maybe you can help.

I was asking the Leafs' board how their nickname "Buds" came about, and it occurred to me to ask you guys the provenance of "Les Habitants".

What's the story behind this piece of lore? I don't speak French, so I was kind of wondering what the significance of "Habitants" means?

Thanks in advance for any info.


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Habitants refers to the "local" population, or the inhabitants. In the case of the province of Quebec, it refers historically to the local French rural population.

Habitants -> Habs.

There is a myth that the it's what the H in the CH logo stands for, but that in fact is CHC, standing for Club de Hockey des Canadiens.

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wikipedia it buddy
What a nice answer

The word habitant come from the "H" of the logo. The "H" is supposed to be for "hockey" but for a reason i don't know why, peoples from here start to talk about it like "habitant".

It's all I can tell.

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Hello all. I have a dumb question, maybe you can help.

I was asking the Leafs' board how their nickname "Buds" came about, and it occurred to me to ask you guys the provenance of "Les Habitants".

What's the story behind this piece of lore? I don't speak French, so I was kind of wondering what the significance of "Habitants" means?

Thanks in advance for any info.
Les Habitants were the locals in Quebec... (i.e. the "real" canadiens)

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What a nice answer

The word habitant come from the "H" of the logo. The "H" is supposed to be for "hockey" but for a reason i don't know why, peoples from here start to talk about it like "habitant".

It's all I can tell.
Nope.

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Hello all. I have a dumb question, maybe you can help.

I was asking the Leafs' board how their nickname "Buds" came about, and it occurred to me to ask you guys the provenance of "Les Habitants".

What's the story behind this piece of lore? I don't speak French, so I was kind of wondering what the significance of "Habitants" means?

Thanks in advance for any info.
I had heard somewhere that the H in the logo doesn't mean Habs like everyone think...I know it was something similar but I just can't remember what.

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wikipedia it buddy
Lol, clever, clever...ok I will play along. I had a look, but there does not seem to be much concerning why the "Habitants" became the nickname.

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One of sports' oldest and most recognizable logos, the classic 'C' and 'H' of the Montreal Canadiens was first used together in the 1917-18 season before evolving to its current form in 1952-53. The 'H' does not stand for 'Habs' or Habitants, as this is a misconception stemming from an error by an English language newspaper reporter in the 1950s. It actually stands for 'Hockey', as in 'Club de Hockey Canadien', the official name of the team.

The first logo was Simply a large C on a white stripe in 1909-10.

In 1910-11 the logo was changed to a large green maple leaf with a white 'C' in 'Old English' script as all of the NHA O'Brien franchises had similar logos. As the team ownership changed, the logo evolved into today's famous logo.

After being bought in 1911 by George Kennedy, the logo was changed to a white maple leaf with the letters CAC over it, standing for Club Athletique Canadien. This was later changed to a large C, with an A inside.

After being bought by original Canadien player Leo Dandurant, the team regained their original name, Club de Hockey Canadien, and the H replaced the A. Thus the CH, standing for Club de Hockey Canadien (or CHC) logo was born.
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Habitants is the name used to refer to both the French settlers and the inhabitants of French origin who farmed the land along the two shores of the St. Lawrence Gulf and River in what is the present-day Province of Quebec in Canada. The term was used by the inhabitants themselves and the other classes of French Canadian society from the 17th century up until the early 20th century when the usage of the word declined in favor of the more modern agriculteur (farmer) or producteur agricole (agricultural producer). The habitants live on the seigneur's property paying him with food as rent.
I wonder how this became the defacto nickname, though.

Fascinating, captain.

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I had heard somewhere that the H in the logo doesn't mean Habs like everyone think...I know it was something similar but I just can't remember what.
Hockey.

As in Club de Hockey Canadien... Hence, the C, and the H, and the other C.





Didn't you guys read your "Habs 101" textbook in 1st year Habs University?

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There is a myth that the it's what the H in the CH logo stands for, but that in fact is CHC, standing for Club de Hockey des Canadiens.
Le Club de Hockey Canadien!

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Hockey.

As in Club de Hockey des Canadiens... Hence, the C, and the H, and the other C.





Didn't you guys read your "Habs 101" textbook in 1st year Habs University?
Way to ignore the fact that I said that long before any of your posts.

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Way to ignore the fact that I said that long before any of your posts.
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I need a new PC, more memory, and a better connection... this is getting ridiculous. Seriously.. I'm being outfacted by noobs with 2400 posts.. ..




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I wonder how this became the defacto nickname, though.

Fascinating, captain.
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One of sports' oldest and most recognizable logos, the classic 'C' and 'H' of the Montreal Canadiens was first used together in the 1917-18 season before evolving to its current form in 1952-53. The 'H' does not stand for 'Habs' or Habitants, as this is a misconception stemming from an error by an English language newspaper reporter in the 1950s. It actually stands for 'Hockey', as in 'Club de Hockey Canadien', the official name of the team.
Here ya go, captain.

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Way to ignore the fact that I said that long before any of your posts.
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I need a new PC, more memory, and a better connection... this is getting ridiculous. Seriously.. I'm being outfacted by noobs with 2400 posts.. ..



Ya both got the official name wrong!


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Does anyone know when "Habs" became part of the lexicon?

I think this is kind of interesting, it's one of those tidbits of lore that seem to get lost. I imagine there is some treatise on the Canadiens somewhere in the library of the Hockey Hall of Fame, but but my research skills are "Le Suck", so I hoped that someone here is a Habs scholar.

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Here ya go, captain.
So the Montreal fans just continued to propagate this misconception? Weird. Ironic, really.


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So the Montreal fans just continued to propagate this misconception? Weird. Ironic, really.
Well most of them now don't know that it's not the real meaning and the medias still call them the Habs so I guess it's gonna stay like that for a long long time.

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Thanks fellas! Learn something new everyday!

Haha.

Ok, here is to an EPIC game tonight.

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So what are we at now? Like 5 nicknames?

-Les Habitants
-Les/The Habs
-Le Tricolore
-Bleu-Blanc-Rouge

-THE BEST TEAM EVER

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Nope.
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He's right, Mr. Bananas. He's right.

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Les Glorieux

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La Sainte Flanelle.

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I can't believe I forgot Les Glorieux.

Sainte flanelle is used a lot less. It still counts though.

So we're at

-Habs
-Habitants
-Tricolore
-Glorieux
-Sainte Flanelle
-Bleu-blanc-rouge

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Not 100% on this, but if I remember right, Montreal had the Canadiens (French people's team) and the Maroons (English people's team).

As the English people were known to be somewhat "financially wealthier" they would be "disrespectful" to the working class fan-base of the Canadiens.

The Canadiens' fans probably kept the spirit and turned it around so it would be their trademark, as to some extent the black people use the "N" word between them...

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I can't believe I forgot Les Glorieux.

Sainte flanelle is used a lot less. It still counts though.

So we're at

-Habs
-Habitants
-Tricolore
-Glorieux
-Sainte Flanelle
-Bleu-blanc-rouge
Wow, what is the most prevalent term nowadays? Habs for anglo fans?

What do todays francos use?

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Not 100% on this, but if I remember right, Montreal had the Canadiens (French people's team) and the Maroons (English people's team).

As the English people were known to be somewhat "financially wealthier" they would be "disrespectful" to the working class fan-base of the Canadiens.

The Canadiens' fans probably kept the spirit and turned it around so it would be their trademark, as to some extent the black people use the "N" word between them...
That sounds like a good answer, kind of a big **** YOU to the westmount crowd.

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