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While it seems apparent that Chicago will be dealing a d-man (Barker I would think), why would LA move Kopitar? That part of the "rumour" makes no sense to me.
I would love the Sens to get Seabrook, but I suspect that won't happen.
Clearly Chicago are in need of dropping some salary. Therefore they should be the ones losing "talent" in this deal.
If anything Ottawa should get Seabrook and Khabibulin for Gerber and Mez. and Kopitar is not part of this deal. Why would LA go and trade a rising star for average players?
I'm wondering if something like Gerber and Meszaros for Khabibulan plus a young d-man or pick would work though?
No they don't. Forget Khabibulin's career and reputations for a moment... because he hasn't been that goalie in a long time.
What Ottawa is left with is a $6.7M a season league average at best goalie for a $3.7M league average at best goalie and we don't have cap money to throw around. This would be a terrible move that would address the needs of the rest of the Eastern Conference (making Ottawa worse) than it would be improving Ottawa.
Meszaros for Barker would be a complete steal for Chicago. They were drafted the same year. Only Meszaros actually made the lineup of a contender at 19, ransk high every season in points, hits and blocked shots and has played 280 straight NHL games. While Barker still doesn't seem guarenteed a spot on bottom feeder Chicago, is continuously injured and has less than 1/3 the NHL experience of Meszaros.
The deal proposed in the Sun said "Barker or Seabrook"... well, Seabrook would need to be thrown in with the other two as an *** cream ointment thrown to prison ***** Murray after he's finished being ***** by Tallon.
Kevin Lee (of Hockeybuzz) has a much more believable version of the rumor. He makes it sound like LA is involved in the three-way simply because one of the other teams needs to offload a pricey goaltender, which makes the most sense. LA isn't interested in any big trades right now; they're just sitting on the sidelines, looking for opportunities to jump in and take an expensive player (especially a veteran defenseman or goalie) for dirt cheap off of the hands of someone who is near the cap. Chicago and Ottawa probably found that they couldn't deal with each other unless a third party could be involved to help one of them free up salary... enter LA.
How long have these rumours of Ottawa/Chicago making a trade been flouting around? Werent there heavy rumours that Murray was talking trade with them at the deadline?
Not saying a deal will go thru between the two teams but it seems strange that theres been constant rumours of the Sens and Blackhawks making a trade for months on end.
This is just a weird proposal. Lateral move by Ottawa, they lose a goalie and defenceman and gain a goalie and a defenceman. Good deal for Chicago, they dump salary, and get Kopitar. LA gets hosed pretty good.
How long have these rumours of Ottawa/Chicago making a trade been flouting around? Werent there heavy rumours that Murray was talking trade with them at the deadline?
Not saying a deal will go thru between the two teams but it seems strange that theres been constant rumours of the Sens and Blackhawks making a trade for months on end.
Not to mention, we have a history of dealing with the Hawks in recent years with the Havlat, Lapointe and Arnason trades.
NOT that this deal has any chance of happening, but it's pretty naive of people to think that those would be the only components of a deal. There would surely be picks and/or prospects involved. Those would likely be the only roster players moving. Doesn't matter though....Brennan is a ****** bag.
LA: Meszaros, Vermette, Neil, and has to take Gerber as a salary dump
Chicago: Kopitar
Ottawa: Seabrook, Barker, has to take Khabibulin as a salary dump
LA: Meszaros, Vermette, Neil, and has to take Gerber as a salary dump
Chicago: Kopitar
Ottawa: Seabrook, Barker, has to take Khabibulin as a salary dump
I still don't see LA wanting to move Kopitar
No, because we still don't get Kopitar and LA gets our assets.
I would rather have Kopitar than the entire package going to Ottawa. Not to mention, if you add Seabrook, Barker and Khabibulin, we don't have the cap space...
Make it:
Vermette, Neil, Meszaros and Gerber for Kopitar and LaBarbera or something if you have to make a deal involving Kopitar and those assets.
Not that I think that this is a fair offer, by any means for LA...
Kevin Lee (of Hockeybuzz) has a much more believable version of the rumor. He makes it sound like LA is involved in the three-way simply because one of the other teams needs to offload a pricey goaltender, which makes the most sense. LA isn't interested in any big trades right now; they're just sitting on the sidelines, looking for opportunities to jump in and take an expensive player (especially a veteran defenseman or goalie) for dirt cheap off of the hands of someone who is near the cap. Chicago and Ottawa probably found that they couldn't deal with each other unless a third party could be involved to help one of them free up salary... enter LA.
Yeah, that's pretty much the way this reads to me. Something centered around Barker for Meszaros sort of makes sense. Bulin+ to LA makes sense as well.
Maybe something like this?
Chicago: Meszaros + LA 4th
Ottawa: Barker + Chicago 2nd
LA: Khabibulin + Skille
Yeah, that's pretty much the way this reads to me. Something centered around Barker for Meszaros sort of makes sense. Bulin+ to LA makes sense as well.
Maybe something like this?
Chicago: Meszaros + LA 4th
Ottawa: Barker + Chicago 2nd
LA: Khabibulin + Skille
Yes, that's much better. I'd rather get Skille too, as I feel Meszaros has a higher ceiling than Barker, but overall decent.
Yeah, that's pretty much the way this reads to me. Something centered around Barker for Meszaros sort of makes sense. Bulin+ to LA makes sense as well.
Maybe something like this?
Chicago: Meszaros + LA 4th
Ottawa: Barker + Chicago 2nd
LA: Khabibulin + Skille
That trade doesn't really make sense to the Hawks then.
Give up Khabibulin, Barker, Skille and a 2nd and get Meszaros and a mid round pick. I understand that they have to shed some salary, but 3 of the 4 of the pieces they're moving have little impact on their cap.
Kopitar being involved is laughable, he won't be going anywhere.
The only reason LA will be involved is for the Hawks to peddle Gerber there after they deal us Khabby, as they have no need for Gerbs.
I think that Barker is being sacrificed to move Khabby, I could see something like:
To Chi:
Neil
Gerber
pick/prospect
To Ott:
Khabby
Barker
Chitown then moves Gerbs to LA for a pick.
I could also see Vermette being added to the deal as originally reported, if he is maybe the rumour of Skille coming back to Ottawa does have some legs. As far as Mez goes, he isn't going unless another D'man is coming back, we are trying to improve our d'core, moving Mez for Barker would not do this. I think Murray has visions of Mez and Barker both on the blue line next year, not one or the other.
