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02-19-2004, 04:44 PM
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Fisher refused to give up #12 for Bondra?

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Injured centre Mike Fisher didn't want to give up the No. 12 that Bondra wore in Washington, so he's been issued shirt No. 10, made not-so-famous by Toni Dahlman, a Finnish right-winger who never made the grade in Ottawa.
I think that's kind of sad...it would've been a def sign of respect for a player who deserves that kind of treatment. Nothing big, but it makes you wonder what was going through Fisher's mind.

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02-19-2004, 04:56 PM
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a bad injury prone year, poor kid just didnt want everything gone.... first his season, then his number... id be kinda upset as well

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The custom is for the vet to give the guy a little "gift" for his troubles. Any body hear if Fisher actually turned something down, and if so what?

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Bondra's playing in the wrong national capital and he's wearing the wrong number? Oi vey.

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02-19-2004, 06:11 PM
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In Ottawa, the #12 belongs to Fisher.

He should feel no obligation to give it to Bondra.

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It's always up to the guy that has the number to give it up. If he doesn't want to I don't think it means he disrespects Bondra. Bondra seems like a pretty relaxed guy so I can't imagine it being a big deal.

The exceptions would be someone who is so strongly associated with the number it is his by default (#99, #66 etc, but no one has those numbers anyway).

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well if bondras plays bad and cant score

u can blame fisher for starting the string of bad luck!

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He isn't obligated to do it, but it's a sign of respect....one of those unwritten rules. Bondra's in his 14th year and nearing 500 goals. He deserves the number of his choice.
Shame of you Fisher.

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Give it to the vet...and the new guy...way to welcome him to the team.

Already mistreating my boy.

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NO he is not obligated to do so but in every major sport it is a common practice to give up the number to a veteran. I could see if it was some vet who was a 4th liner or something but this is Bondra, a 14 year vet who will go down as one of the best if not the best Czec. born players and is a real classy guy.

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I don't think giving up the number should be done in every case, if the guy wants to do it, then fine, if not, no big deal.

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it's not a big thing imo , Bondra have to respect his decision and i'm pettry sure he don't even care he just asked .

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Who cares, it's Fischer's choice. It's like the time Mark Messier came to Vancouver, and the Captaincy was taken away from Linden and given to Mark, that shouldn't have happened.

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Not a big deal. However, Fisher is seen by many as future captain material. He is also a big link to Roger Nielson and in a season dedicated to Roger does it kinda feels right to me that Fisher keeps that number he's had.

Lets not turn this into something its not.

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Who cares? It's a friggin jersey number, it has zero effect on how he plays. They could wear letters and it wouldn't matter. Just put on a jersey with your name on it, and go out and play.

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Who cares? It's a friggin jersey number, it has zero effect on how he plays. They could wear letters and it wouldn't matter. Just put on a jersey with your name on it, and go out and play.
You have to realize pro hockey players are among the most superstitious athletes in the world. We're talking rituals that would make Wade Boggs eating chicken for pregame meals every day look like nothing. This is trivial stuff to you and me, but its a big big deal to million dollar pro athletes who have worn the same number for their entire career.

 
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Who cares? It's a friggin jersey number, it has zero effect on how he plays. They could wear letters and it wouldn't matter. Just put on a jersey with your name on it, and go out and play.

This is where hockey players differed from other sports' players. Hockey players used to have respect for each other and especially for older players. Hockey players were gracious and were not so out for #1. When Ricky Henderson was buying his number when he was traded in baseball, I was laughing and thanking God that hockey players were not so selfish and obsessed with money. I used to think that this was because of the good ol' Canadian upbringing was the reason for this wonderful difference in hockey players but as withnessed by a lot of the views on this board by those who have been brought up by WWF and NBA mentality instead of their mothers and fathers, it's pretty clear that hockey is becoming no different than any of the other professional sports!

Its a damn shame!

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Who cares? It's a friggin jersey number, it has zero effect on how he plays. They could wear letters and it wouldn't matter. Just put on a jersey with your name on it, and go out and play.
Reflect well on your sour POV regarding veteran players, and lack of respect.

Typical.

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I think it's nice when players give up their number to a veteran. Like when Patrik Stefan let Slava Kozlov have 13. But maybe Fisher has a sentimental reason for keeping 12, so I'm not too upset about it.

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I think that's kind of sad...it would've been a def sign of respect for a player who deserves that kind of treatment. Nothing big, but it makes you wonder what was going through Fisher's mind.
is this subject really worthy of a post??? :mad:

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Who cares? It's a friggin jersey number, it has zero effect on how he plays. They could wear letters and it wouldn't matter. Just put on a jersey with your name on it, and go out and play.
Tell this to Pavel Bure....

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Reflect well on your sour POV regarding veteran players, and lack of respect.

Typical.

Fisher had the number. If he didn't hand it over to Bondra right when he walked through the door, big freakin' deal. Someone on the team had the number, tough luck for Bondra. If I was in Fisher's shoes I'd be insulted if someone told me I had to give up my number. Get over this hockey good guy BS and vetern respect rants. Bottom line, you got traded, someone already has 12, tough luck Bondra, dont take it personally, lets go get win a cup.

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Fisher said he's had #12 since junior and that if he was a rookie he would probably feel different about it

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well if bondras plays bad and cant score

u can blame fisher for starting the string of bad luck!
I guess that theory's out the window.

A beauty goal

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Bondra's a good guy, and he won't have his nose bent out of shape in the least. It's a non-issue.

Fisher was under obligation, even unwritten, to hand over the number. It's his, and Bondra will be fine with that.

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