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07-21-2008, 01:56 AM
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Intangibles

When we talk about a prospect or player has "intangibles" what exactly are we saying? I'm sure everyone has a different definition so I would like to get a general consensus of what they are.

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When we talk about a prospect or player has "intangibles" what exactly are we saying? I'm sure everyone has a different definition so I would like to get a general consensus of what they are.
The intangibles are the things that you can't ONLY explain by just watching a player. Mostly head stuff.

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Things that aren't shown on the scoresheet

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Things that aren't shown on the scoresheet
just because it's not on the score sheet doesn't mean it's not tangible.

IMO, it's head stuff. A desire and drive to win and do whatever it takes to do so. When I think about a guy having good intangibles that's what I thinking.

Sometimes but not always its a natural ability to lead. Guys like Getzlaf, Richards, Toews all have that as part of their set of intangibles, but not all guys with good intangibles do.

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in·tan·gi·ble (n-tnj-bl)
adj.
1. Incapable of being perceived by the senses.
2. Incapable of being realized or defined.
3. Incorporeal.
n.
1. Something intangible, especially an asset that cannot be perceived by the senses. Often used in the plural: intangibles such as goodwill and dedication.
2. Law Incorporeal property such as bank deposits, stocks, bonds, and promissory notes. Often used in the plural: a state tax on intangibles.

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Mental toughness. Willingness to hit, fight and drop in front of shots.Abilities in the faceoff circle. Ability to play in any situation or in the last few minutes of a game wheather winning or losing. Stuff that can't be measured with numbers and stats but that still help teams win hockey games.

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Mental toughness. Willingness to hit, fight and drop in front of shots.Abilities in the faceoff circle. Ability to play in any situation or in the last few minutes of a game wheather winning or losing. Stuff that can't be measured with numbers and stats but that still help teams win hockey games.
A lot of that stuff can be measured with numbers and stats.

I'd agree that mental toughness and competitiveness is the crux of what intangibles are about. Different players compete in different ways, so it's not always easy to measure. Leadership is another that often comes up because we're not privy to what goes on in the room, on the bench and on the ice.

But faceoff abilities, fighting, hitting, shot blocking, playing in the last few minutes of games, that stuff is very measurable to some degree.

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Electricity. "Intangibles" in hockey means that a player adds so much excitement and determination to his environment, that the rest of the team can't help but have it rub off on them.

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I think intangibles come with experience. There are some young players that get it right away but I think of older players as those I consider to have intangibles. It comes with just being there for a while and a lot what they do on the ice just comes with experience. There's very little thinking involved...it's more about just 'doing it'. I think of intangibles as instinctual behaviors that are developed over time.


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I don't know what intangibles means.
All joking aside. Hockey sense a great example. Something not visible, or touchable is intangible. Mental toughness and leadership are good ones. Ability's in the faceoff circle is not.


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Intangibles include grit, heart, being from a small Canadian town, being a Monster, having an Active Stick, and Big Body Presence.

Basically, any player that causes Pierre McGuire to go on a rant where he doesn't pause to breathe and the volume of his voice slowly increases to that of a jet engine.

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what about agitation? Is that considered an intangible?

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I don't consider that as being one

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what about agitation? Is that considered an intangible?
I don't think so. That kind of has a method too it and can be taught.

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Hockey sense/Hockey IQ
Level of competitiveness
Character/Leadership

That's what i consider when i hear a player has intangibles.

I've also heard commentators referring to hits, faceoffs, and forechecking as intangibles... more of a generalization of doing things other than scoring... which isn't necessarily accurate.

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Intangibles make reference largely to hockey sense and things that you pay good scouts to detect.

Does Player X:
- read the ice well (a combination of poise, intelligence, confidence in own ability and those around him. See Zetterberg, Crosby, Lidstrom et al))
- anticipate the play ("find pucks" or have a "nose for the puck" -- Tavares does this well, as do more pure goal scorers)
- play a tough/gritty and intimidating style of hockey (and contribute on the top 1 or 2 lines/units. This means fighting only when necessary, throwing smart hits and shot blocking. See Mike Richards, Mike Fischer, Ryan Getzlaf)
- being tough to play against. (more than being a defensive player, but a guy players hate to be on the ice with)

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The player's motor~ that inside voice that says to either keep pushing
or I'm done. That says I'll practice more, or I'm done.

Players willingness to come to the aid of any & all of his teammates
no matter who is being the bully.

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